The only way these guys will learn is to actually figure it out on the floor during games. Painter has to be willing to let a player like MC make mistakes, figure things out, etc, not just be a great practice player (which is what I suspect Morton is).
I think Texas beat Arkansas last year by 30 in their scrimmage. St Johns lost to a D2 school this year and IU struggled with a D2 for a bit. Pretty sure those teams won’t be that bad this year and if they played those same D2 teams in 2 weeks, pretty sure they’d destroy them. It’s just an exhibition ppppl. Let’s save the panic for February 😂
Your first statement could not be more wrong. Are you aware of any coach who has had any level of success who believes that players can only learn in games, not in practice? Certainly Coach K, Knight, Wooden, etc. strongly disagreed with that view.
He had 2 points, 1 rebound, 1 block and an altered shot in a grand total of 5 minutes of PT. We could only dream that Morton would have that kind of production. As far as being lost, I think that is an exaggeration. At least when he gets beat or loses his man, he has a chance to block the shot or alter it. Once Morton is beat (which is often) it is over. I will say this once again: He brings the one thing that CMP himself said we lacked last year, athleticism. So if he isn't doing what you want on the defensive end, you take him out, give instruction and get him back in the game. Playing him for 5 minutes in the 1st half and zero the rest of the game doesn't help him. Of course he is going to play more in the next 3 games, hell if the walk-ons don't get some good run in these games you have a story. I just think it was a missed opportunity against Arkansas (much better team), that is all.
Yep. I see other coaches doing it all the time. I like how relaxed Painter is most of the time. However those are the times he needs to just go off and accept a technical foul.
I don't think it will change the course of the game either. I think it might give the players a burst of adrenaline knowing your coach is looking out for his team though.
Izzo has changed the course of many games with his crying and getting on the refs. This is especially so at home where the crowd gets into it. Refs are humans, they can't help but be affected by it. Why do you think he keeps doing it? Because he thinks it has an impact and helps his team. If he didn't think it mattered, he wouldn't do it as much as he does.
It 100% has an impact. Those who say it doesn’t have an impact don’t understand human psychology.
I guess then, once painter has the deep tournament success that Izzo has had, then painter will be able to impact the game with tantrums!
I don't have the time or inclination to try to explain team defense to you. If you didn't watch Myles in that game and see him look completely lost on defense I don't know what to tell you.
The last time I remember him getting ejected was against Illinois at Illinois. Think Groce was the coach.
Then there’s only one solution….we go …zone 😂
Hope you don't fall off that high horse you're on today. Have a good one.
Can you give an example of this? Do you mean the refs started calling more stuff on his team?
Fair enough response, I recognize that it was an asshole answer. I honestly don't know what to say if you thought Myles looked ok on defense. Hopefully it was just a situation of first game nerves in a loud and hostile environment and he can shake it off and settle in.
I should have clarified: yes, practice is important, but nothing replaces live game experience against an opponent you don't face everyday. That's where the most learning and development is going to take place.
Fair enough. Fingers crossed that Myles figures things out and that MP gives his young guys some leeway, particularly in the next few games.
I didn't say he was ok, I just said I think it's being exaggerated how bad he was. He only played a handful of possessions on defense and had a block and altered another shot. Do I think he looked confused some of those possessions? Yes, he obviously has work to do. But we can't forget what he did and can possibly do on the offensive end. If you extrapolate his 5 minute line over say 20 minutes of PT, it would be a career day for EM (I know I exaggerated there myself), but you get my meaning.
Not posting this to say I’m right, just thought you might find it Interesting. Go to the last two minutes or so where he talks about elite athletes learning to be guys you can trust. MP has shown that he will let guys play through mistakes but he has a little patience for guys. He can’t trust because they don’t know what they’re doing. Myles is a smart kid and he’ll get it figured out but he has a little ways to go.
The only way to fix that problem is to hire the right coach (that molds/puts together a modern style) when CMP retires or moves on. Its really that simple.
So in another 20 years we will find out ? 😂
History tells a different story. Look up turnover rates for past teams. Only in recent years have Purdue players decided that valueing the ball is not as important as simply trying to outscore the opponent. That is why the very athletic Purdue team with Ivey lost in the NCAA tourney. And turnovers were a major contributor, along with poor shooting, to last year's woes.
typically for "MOST" teams the athletic team was recruited to attempt to turn you over or play tight tough defense and make the shots hard. Most teams sacrifice some skill as a result. Arkansas was very athletic, maybe got a few breaks on D, but overall played very well that game. They were very good and Purdue was not. That said, if Arkansas doesn't hit some prayers Purdue probably wins a close game where a lot of things went against Purdue and went for Arkansas. When the game started and Purdue got a lead up to 7 and let them back in I figured that may have been the boost Arkansas needed. Had the shot clock been longer Arkansas would have had more difficulty getting back into the game, but today no lead is very safe
