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proudopete said:
But IU didn’t hire the right leader to instill a winning culture. They just ponied up a bunch of money and hope players will make the change.

Of course Purdue fans hope IU wins enough to keep woody as we all know he won’t change the culture and until that happens, the true winning will never come.
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Hey; I would rather have Dusty May. But Woody is a full-on IU guy with local/IU guys on staff. I wish he was 15 years younger. IU has a plenty of local ties in the program - trying for a bunch more for next year.

Winning is as winning does. Can Woody instill a "winning culture" in year four? We shall see. A talented roster with some guards that don't suck bad is probably the key to "winning culture." Myles Rice was PAC-12 freshman of the year and was the point guard who led Washington State (of all places) to a 24 win season. There's your winning culture guy.

But this 'bought the team" narrative is overrated. Almost of the national contenders have a team that is mightily supported by a healthy NIL budget.

Tell me which pre-season top ten teams aren't "bought?"
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SKYDOG said:
I support Israel. Half the world seems to want them gone. Ukraine was part of Russia. Now they want it back. Don’t know how bad it was for Ukraine under Russia. Just seems senseless in the war for so many with deaths and destruction. How bad could it have been for Ukraine? Now that the country is destroyed and hundreds of thousands deaths just don’t think it could have been that bad.
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Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. Until 1991, and since then it has most certainly not been part of Russia.

With that logic, are you also fine with Putin reclaiming Estonia, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, etc? After all they were "part of Russia."
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Trent Sisley to iu

proudopete
Katscratch said:
All of this is why IU Basketball is a sleeping giant, not an awake giant.

Look at the last ten years' champion programs: Kansas, Duke, UConn, UVA, Baylor, Duke, Nova. Nova is the only outlier and their championship was pre-NIL. All of the others have both winning culture and incredible basketball resources. All of them are big money universities where hoops is king, both financially and in the minds of their fanbase and alumni.

And I'd venture to say that hiring the right leader can change culture reasonably quickly. But a school without resources has a hell of a tough time changing that. Hurley is a hell of a great coach, but it was NIL that made their roster shine last year. Three of their five starters were absolutely NIL acquisitions.
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But IU didn’t hire the right leader to instill a winning culture. They just ponied up a bunch of money and hope players will make the change.

Of course Purdue fans hope IU wins enough to keep woody as we all know he won’t change the culture and until that happens, the true winning will never come.
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Trent Sisley to iu

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proudopete said:
I think you’re really missing the point. Your list does exist but that doesn’t make them all positives. The fans run the show there when it should be the coach.

Instead of getting a good coach who builds culture, the administration has decided to throw money at players in an effort to win. Think about that for a minute. You’re putting the direction of the program in the hands of guys who wouldn’t even be there if not for the money IU threw at them. How do you think that will go when the winning isn’t happening as planned?

The best thing IU could do is get a coach like Painter or Shaka who builds a program of culture that the players take pride in. It would probably take a few years of struggling to get the culture set but IU fans won’t wait for that and instead demand winning now. Why do they expect winning now? For the exact reasons you listed above which to you means it’s a sleeping giant. Thus the circle of suck continues as no matter the coach or players, IU lacks a culture.

I think a lot of Purdue fans see this clearly and in turn don’t really sweat it when IU spends a fortune on transfers or gets a verbal from a five star kid. IU teams are too much me, me, me, just like the fan base and until that changes, that sleeping giant you hope awakens will continue to sleep.
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All of this is why IU Basketball is a sleeping giant, not an awake giant.

Look at the last ten years' champion programs: Kansas, Duke, UConn, UVA, Baylor, Duke, Nova. Nova is the only outlier and their championship was pre-NIL. All of the others have both winning culture and incredible basketball resources. All of them are big money universities where hoops is king, both financially and in the minds of their fanbase and alumni.

And I'd venture to say that hiring the right leader can change culture reasonably quickly. But a school without resources has a hell of a tough time changing that. Hurley is a hell of a great coach, but it was NIL that made their roster shine last year. Three of their five starters were absolutely NIL acquisitions.
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Joetboiler said:
So if Trump is buddies with Putin why did he do this a few months in after Putin helped get him elected?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935

And why did Biden do this favor for a thug a few months in?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

Quick Quiz Cap'n Cut-n-Paste Redux, who is the only president of the 21st century that did not experience a Russian invasion of another country.
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Stop it, you're going to make @BB62 brain explode. Putin loves Trump and Trump loves Putin. Everyone knows it was Trump that stopped the Keystone pipleline and allowed the Nordstream pipeline to be completed helping Putin. Err wait....
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The WNBA is triggered

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Indy_Rider said:
It's articles like this, combined with the way the players act as to why the WNBA is likely to slide back to what it was despite Clark.

Trash league not worth watching, I tried as I am trying to get my daughter into basketball.

Tried to get my daughter to watch Boston and what she does, yeah, my daughter is big and by now it is evident she always will be.
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Get her into volleyball! Much more exciting and these women are great athletes.
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Trent Sisley to iu

proudopete
Katscratch said:
Not missing it -- I agree. Look at the culture that Cignetti, Moren, Yeagley have established for IU's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th highest profile programs; that's how a coach connects great resources with a great team culture.

I was responding to the contention that IU basketball is a sleeping giant. I believe that is true because of the dynamics that I listed and you agree with me about.

Poprudy responded that the list of dynamics that I cited were a joke and evidence of denial.
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I think you’re really missing the point. Your list does exist but that doesn’t make them all positives. The fans run the show there when it should be the coach.

Instead of getting a good coach who builds culture, the administration has decided to throw money at players in an effort to win. Think about that for a minute. You’re putting the direction of the program in the hands of guys who wouldn’t even be there if not for the money IU threw at them. How do you think that will go when the winning isn’t happening as planned?

The best thing IU could do is get a coach like Painter or Shaka who builds a program of culture that the players take pride in. It would probably take a few years of struggling to get the culture set but IU fans won’t wait for that and instead demand winning now. Why do they expect winning now? For the exact reasons you listed above which to you means it’s a sleeping giant. Thus the circle of suck continues as no matter the coach or players, IU lacks a culture.

I think a lot of Purdue fans see this clearly and in turn don’t really sweat it when IU spends a fortune on transfers or gets a verbal from a five star kid. IU teams are too much me, me, me, just like the fan base and until that changes, that sleeping giant you hope awakens will continue to sleep.
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Riveting said:
"Chollet’s remarks confirm suspicions by many critics who believe the Biden administration wasn’t doing enough — including offering to deny or delay Ukraine’s NATO membership — to prevent Russia from launching a war against Ukraine. "
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That is correct. For 20 years, Putin had warned that any former Warsaw Pact country joining NATO would be considered an act of war. Two years ago, Biden called his bluff with Ukraine and that's when Putin launched the invasion.
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Who signs with Purdue this fall?

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BoilerDaddy said:
Knowing Painter, he won’t argue that the path to playing time at Northwestern is easier. That said, the Purdue roster doesn’t have an abundance of players who are locked into the four position. They are generally either 3-4s like Heide or 4-5s like TKR. Catchings was probably the closest thing to a pure 4 and he de-committed.
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Yes, agree. Heide is a jumbo 3, Burgess is a 4/5. There isn't a true stretch 4 on the roster and hasn't been since Vince (Gillis was great but was a completely different mold).
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Trent Sisley to iu

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Katscratch said:
So I cited that IU has:
  • Resources (aka, money)
  • Name recognition,
  • A huge fan base,
  • A huge alumni base, and
  • Fan interest even when the team is meh.
You think that saying those things exist is a joke and "in denial?" Not sure why. Just because it hasn't translated to enough success doesn't make those dynamics untrue.
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You do have those items. That doesn't make you a "sleeping giant" if you haven't been one in a very long time.

4 out 5 of the things you said were about fans and your worst enemy is your own fans.

Don't be naive and believe you're the only program with money.
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BB62
Riveting said:
Right, those hundreds of thousands of deaths are just collateral damage in the cause of more profits for the mil-industrial complex.

At least you are consistent in your view that collateral damage is just the price the damaged and killed must pay to support your beloved establishment.
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How do you square your support for trump who, as you well know, is all about increasing military spending which benefits the very military industrial complex you live to admonish?
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proudopete said:
Those dynamics do exist but I think you are missing the main thing, which is culture. The culture at IU sucks and has for a couple of decades now. Look at Purdue and you will see that culture is the main thing Painter has built and strives to continue improving upon.
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Not missing it -- I agree. Look at the culture that Cignetti, Moren, Yeagley have established for IU's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th highest profile programs; that's how a coach connects great resources with a great team culture.

I was responding to the contention that IU basketball is a sleeping giant. I believe that is true because of the dynamics that I listed and you agree with me about.

Poprudy responded that the list of dynamics that I cited were a joke and evidence of denial.
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