Ohio State at Purdue: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD
- By spoilerdave
- Boilermaker Men's Basketball
- 240 Replies
Oops, I thought the game was tomorrow. Looking back, I'm glad I missed it. Eeks
How did Harris score 8 pts then?Ever watch Loyer’s D . Don’t talk about not taking advantage of playing time . When they are in all we do is high ball screen and Smith dump it to Renn. Ever see that double screen we used to run for Dakota ?
OSU is probably average athletically in Big 10 and I would say Matt has done pretty well so far.To me, overall team talent has been an issue for most of painters career. He’s a good coach and gets his players to play hard and as a team. But he’s never recruited at a high level and it shows at times when facing more athletically gifted teams.
Put Newman in, same thing. He bolted and was a superstar and now in the NBA. Oh wait, he went to a lower tier program , got more minutes and had a mediocre career after Purdue. You have to make the most of your minutes in the game and show some consistency from game to game. Heide and Colvin have not. The fact is neither have good handles, the same thing that doomed Newman.Don’t use tiredness as an excuse for a loss…good teams find a way to beat a team at home who is only 2 games over .500 coming in. We sucked tonight….and have major issues playing 3 (Smith, Loyer, Kaufman-Renn) on 5. If one of those three is off …then it is very, very difficult to win. Painter isn’t helping the confidence of Colvin and Heidi by not running plays for those two. If Colvin and Heidi bolt after this season for a new start and are very productive elsewhere…that would not surprise me at all. Colvin and Heidi are talented…but Painter is not making use of that talent or does not know how , which frankly is very bad coaching!
Your last sentence is more critical than how long Smith sat.I thought sitting Smith when he got 2 fouls was a bad decision. I think we should have rolled the dice and left him in. Ended up probably being his worst shooting game of the season as a result. Was Not very happy with the refs tonight. Smith gets bowled over and they don't call anything? Hopefully we don't lose any more home games the rest of the way. If we do there is likely no way we win the regular season title. Need more from Colvin, Heide and Furst than we got tonight.
My D has been strong for a long timeYour D was good though
You just don’t understand.Don’t use tiredness as an excuse for a loss…good teams find a way to beat a team at home who is only 2 games over .500 coming in. We sucked tonight….and have major issues playing 3 (Smith, Loyer, Kaufman-Renn) on 5. If one of those three is off …then it is very, very difficult to win. Painter isn’t helping the confidence of Colvin and Heidi by not running plays for those two. If Colvin and Heidi bolt after this season for a new start and are very productive elsewhere…that would not surprise me at all. Colvin and Heidi are talented…but Painter is not making use of that talent or does not know how , which frankly is very bad coaching!
Your D was good thoughI mean what have either of them done while in there?
I get it, they can't shake out of this without opportunities but they are almost invisible when they get them.
They got 23 minutes of playing time between them tonight and they scored as many pts as I did and only got 3 more rebounds then I did.
Because they did zero in 1st half.Maybe he had a reason not to play them. Maybe.
I mean what have either of them done while in there?Tell that to Painter who didn’t play Colvin at all and Heide a brief stint in the second half. And instead tried forcing it inside all game
I mean Colvin and Heide haven't been playing forty minutes a game. This was a great time for them to step in and pick up their games and the slack.Purdue came off a long road trip. They faced an athletic team with some big guards that made 11 3’s shooting 47% from three. They were hitting crazy shots at the buzzer at a high percentage. Purdue did not play well in the second half and were bothered by their athleticism and physical play. All the critiques here have good points. In the end Ohio State got red hot and beat a tired Purdue team in the second half.
Maybe he had a reason not to play them. Maybe.Tell that to Painter who didn’t play Colvin at all and Heide a brief stint in the second half. And instead tried forcing it inside all game
To me, overall team talent has been an issue for most of painters career. He’s a good coach and gets his players to play hard and as a team. But he’s never recruited at a high level and it shows at times when facing more athletically gifted teams.Apparently more talented than Purdue. Clearly we have to have Smith for 40 minutes.
Matt is not running anyone off. LolFirst why did we forget about the 3 and try and force it inside. 2nd can’t continue with only 3 players trying to score all the points and 3rd yes it looks like Painter is trying to run Colvin and Heide off just like last year. Big difference we had Edey to bail him out last year
You are wrong. They arent. Neither can dribble. They can not get past their man. They are 100% spot up guys only and not very good ones at that. Their wide open % is higher than most with all that smith does for them and they still are invisibleGot to start getting some production from these two. Tonight in 22 minutes combined no points and 3 rebounds. They have got to find a way to score. I know they are better than this.