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Watching Painter’s post game. Why is Painter blaming 13 second half turnovers and not the refs?
Cuz his rich fat ass doesn't have to sit in an ice bath after the game? If he did he'd probably have a different viewpoint! Edey probably got rabies today.
 
We did a good job running offense on the 12 wide open threes in a row we missed. Except we missed.
Maybe our star player isn't a three point shooter? If you take any team's star player away via officiating, that team is going to struggle. It would be awesome if Newman were a player of the year candidate and knock down three point shooter, but unfortunately that's not Purdue's reality.
 
To those who think the refs were fine and that blaming a loss on them is for losers, at what point can you actually pin them having a huge influence on the outcome? Blake Griffin game allowed? Because thats the opposite of what Zach often gets.

Purdue shot horrible from deep, anyone who watched knows this. Plus the crappy amount of turnovers. And yes, credit NW - they are good! You don't just "luck" into that many road wins in particular. They play aggro defense too. And usually good. But seriously?

Finally, maybe Braden's worst game of his career. That guy is gonna win (or help win, has helped already a ton) far far more games than lay a brutal egg like today - 2nd half in particular.

Back to refs, what do you do if they are allowed to arm bar, claw Edey, push in the back, call him for some BS "over the back" etc? Ya know, neutralize the likely NPOTY? You think that's not going to change the way Purdue plays?

So sure, get hot from, 3 or even closer to avg and this is almost certainly a win. But c'mon, there is the "This game isn't for the weak" and then there are gang rapes on the court. So many 50 50 calls seemed to go against Purdue to boot. The flagrant, on down to the crappy ass shot clock

THIS is the exact type of game that knocks Purdue out to some mid major media darling in the dance
 
Maybe our star player isn't a three point shooter? If you take any team's star player away via officiating, that team is going to struggle. It would be awesome if Newman were a player of the year candidate and knock down three point shooter, but unfortunately that's not Purdue's reality.
Ha ha, a lot better teams than northwestern will take away our star. You can't miss twelve in a row. If we just have Zach we make it one round in the tourney,
 
You have probably said that for last 20 years and it has not changed, we have to adjust to it and play thru it, be the stronger team.
Nope, I have posted many times that this happens and we need to be tougher. I just know refs can determine a game as well. Hall of Fame coaches wouldn't complain about it, if not true.
 
Ha ha, a lot better teams than northwestern will take away our star. You can't miss twelve in a row. If we just have Zach we make it one round in the tourney,
If you think Purdue got to number 1 because of Newman, etc. shooting threes you're misguided. Take Zach away and this team is mediocre. The good thing is teams haven't been able to effectively neutralize Edey without the refs' help
 
Winning at NW has never been easy for Purdue...even with Glenn Robinson (I recall Big Dog hitting a baseline jumper in regulation or OT to win there). Going into this game I was concerned...and it played out that way. Letting a team go on a 17-3 run in the last 4 minutes should not happen...clearly a meltdown. TOs, missing wide open looks (should make about half of those), losing composure, and not having a killer instinct to put teams away...all ultimately lead to a loss today.

I do not believe Newman will ever realize his potential. Clearly...he has the talent but never seems to live up to it. He reminds me of Wheeler. His play does not justify 22 minutes on the floor today...

I thought going into today that our toughest game left was at Maryland. After today's game...my confidence winning there has dropped. I fully expect University of Indiana to win at NW (having lost at home to NW...gives them a chip on their shoulder)...reducing our lead to 1 game setting up a very tough game at Mackey...just my 2 cents.

After today's loss...Purdue is still a #1 seed. Definitely...we want to avoid dropping to a #2 seed in Alabama's bracket. Bama is one team that "scares" me with their athleticism. I would not want to play them until the FF4...
 
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Take away TJD and IU is worse than mediocre. What’s your point?
It's simple, but that's my point. Some people here seem to think it's no big deal if the refs take your star player out of the game. Next man up . . . make some threes. That would be nice, but the reality is if refs take Edey out of the game Purdue is going to lose a lot more frequently.

I grew up in New Pal by the way. Nice to see a fellow dragon here.
 
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I'm concerned because it looked like some of the past Big Dance games. In the prediction thread, I had the loss to iu, away at Maryland, and possibly a head scratcher. We've been squeaky by some lesser teams before and it catches up
I agree this happens in the Big dance, someone knocks us out of rhythm and we play into it frustrated and lose. Have to learn how to take the game back and manage it versus it managing us. Great example of getting managed manipulated right outta this one.....Coach them UP CMP.
 
Anyone else notice Edeys passes out the post (that weren't turnovers) were off ie the receiver needed to adjust thus mucking up the possibility for a catch and shoot opportunity?
 
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Games like this SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN, EVER!!!!

1- Flagrant 1
2- Edey bleeding, literally bleeding from multiple wounds
3- up 1 down the stretch and TWO guys clobber Edey when he has the ball 7 and a half Feet in the air, just to turn around and call a foul 90’ from northwesterns basket.
4- Loyer gets hammered multiple times and no call
5- smith gets fouled every possession

Here’s the big thing, we’re playing not to foul, they’re BEGGGGGGING the refs to blow the whistle!

Purdue fouls 17
Northwestern fouls 17

Complete embarrassment from those officials today. We flat out, out played them.

If you can’t see any of that you don’t know basketball.

Screw the big ten officials
Yeah, it would be nice if the refs would occasionally call Edey for camping out in the lane for 20 seconds.
 
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I understand the game obviously much more than you. Matt said on radio Zach got fouled 90 times in the game and they called 9 of them. But that is going to be the way it is, even in tourney.
That’s just ignorant.

A fouls a freaking foul, and needs to be called!

Remember when Haas created the Haas rule?

You clearly didn’t watch the game
 
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Yeah, it would be nice if the refs would occasionally call Edey for camping out in the lane for 20 seconds.
Yes Edey camps out in the lane regularly.

And Edey is pushing off constantly.

Or Smith throwing his body into defenders when he drives.

Or Gillis getting suspended for that blatant cheap shot at Northwestern’s best player.

But it goes both ways, and none of those things seem to be happening either. Because the refs don’t have “Vegas money” on Northwestern Basketball for crissakes. All B1G teams are physical and the refs are generally pretty good.
 
It's simple, but that's my point. Some people here seem to think it's no big deal if the refs take your star player out of the game. Next man up . . . make some threes. That would be nice, but the reality is if refs take Edey out of the game Purdue is going to lose a lot more frequently.

I grew up in New Pal by the way. Nice to see a fellow dragon here.
Didn’t grow up here, but moved here when we had kids as I had friends in the area, and loved the peace, quiet, space, and slow pace.

Totally agree with your point. When your main offense is taken away by illegal grabbing and mugging, you can’t easily just go to “Great Offense #2” (sort of like the Patriots shutting down the Colts passing game with illegal contact and PIs back in 2003/2004.)
 
Congrats to NW.

The refs are going to allow this until someone gets hurt (aka Haas) I guess?

But long term this is very good practice for Purdue. They have to learn how to fight through this. They will see it EVERY game the rest of the way. First, better coach em up & make team adjustments. Second, for sure work the refs better CMP. Third, if they are allowing rough play, get rough yourself.
This was not good for Purdue, but good for the other Big teams. Does the Big share revenue like in football when more teams get in a bowl tourney? Purdue helping less fortunate out? ;)
 
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This was not good for Purdue, but good for the other Big teams. Does the Big share revenue like in football when more teams get in a bowl tourney? Purdue helping less fortunate out? ;)
We certainly did , by how bad we played.
 
Winning at NW has never been easy for Purdue...even with Glenn Robinson (I recall Big Dog hitting a baseline jumper in regulation or OT to win there). Going into this game I was concerned...and it played out that way. Letting a team go on a 17-3 run in the last 4 minutes should not happen...clearly a meltdown. TOs, missing wide open looks (should make about half of those), losing composure, and not having a killer instinct to put teams away...all ultimately lead to a loss today.

I do not believe Newman will ever realize his potential. Clearly...he has the talent but never seems to live up to it. He reminds me of Wheeler. His play does not justify 22 minutes on the floor today...

I thought going into today that our toughest game left was at Maryland. After today's game...my confidence winning there has dropped. I fully expect University of Indiana to win at NW (having lost at home to NW...gives them a chip on their shoulder)...reducing our lead to 1 game setting up a very tough game at Mackey...just my 2 cents.

After today's loss...Purdue is still a #1 seed. Definitely...we want to avoid dropping to a #2 seed in Alabama's bracket. Bama is one team that "scares" me with their athleticism. I would not want to play them until the FF4...
great 3rd paragraph, they will have a letdown vs iu, plus they are not good enough to sweep them
 
Yes Edey camps out in the lane regularly.

And Edey is pushing off constantly.

Or Smith throwing his body into defenders when he drives.

Or Gillis getting suspended for that blatant cheap shot at Northwestern’s best player.

But it goes both ways, and none of those things seem to be happening either. Because the refs don’t have “Vegas money” on Northwestern Basketball for crissakes. All B1G teams are physical and the refs are generally pretty good.
that wasn't a cheap shot by Gillis, on replay both announcers said it looked worse than it was.
 
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that wasn't a cheap shot by Gillis, on replay both announcers said it looked worse than it was.
Exactly.

But NW fans would say it was.

If Purdue’s freshmen guards are national championship quality they’ll need to learn from bad days. So today will help with that. And Edey needs to watch lots of film to better handle well-executed double teams.

All of those other gripes are just pissed off fans and aren’t especially relevant
 
Yes Edey camps out in the lane regularly.

And Edey is pushing off constantly.

Or Smith throwing his body into defenders when he drives.

Or Gillis getting suspended for that blatant cheap shot at Northwestern’s best player.

But it goes both ways, and none of those things seem to be happening either. Because the refs don’t have “Vegas money” on Northwestern Basketball for crissakes. All B1G teams are physical and the refs are generally pretty good.
Does TJD’s constant traveling, charging in the lane, Galloway’s constant uncalled reach-ins also go “ both ways”???

Take off your creamy- crim blinders before spewing this garbage .
 
Does TJD’s constant traveling, charging in the lane, Galloway’s constant uncalled reach-ins also go “ both ways”???

Take off your creamy- crim blinders before spewing this garbage .
With all due respect, I think you missed the point. Read the entirety of my posts on this.
 
I should probably keep my opinion to myself on this.
But I won’t…..
Purdue was up 8 at the 4 minute timeout.
 
With all due respect, I think you missed the point. Read the entirety of my posts on this.
Nothing missed- you lay out a multitude of other uncalled transgressions you think are committed by Purdue, but strangely, you don’t appear to see these with your team.

Again, take your garbage takes to where someone might believe it.
 
Nothing missed- you lay out a multitude of other uncalled transgressions you think are committed by Purdue, but strangely, you don’t appear to see these with your team.

Again, take your garbage takes to where someone might believe it.
Then you missed the point, and didn’t read the follow-up post.
 
Yes Edey camps out in the lane regularly.

And Edey is pushing off constantly.

Or Smith throwing his body into defenders when he drives.

Or Gillis getting suspended for that blatant cheap shot at Northwestern’s best player.

But it goes both ways, and none of those things seem to be happening either. Because the refs don’t have “Vegas money” on Northwestern Basketball for crissakes. All B1G teams are physical and the refs are generally pretty good.
But it didn't go both ways. Did an improper goaltend go both ways? Improper shot clock reset go both ways? Improper F1 call go both ways. When Edey gets shoved in the back on a dunk is that a legitimate basketball play? now stfu.
 
that wasn't a cheap shot by Gillis, on replay both announcers said it looked worse than it was.
An absolute horrible call that for the life of me I don't have any idea how they could begin to call a F1 on Mason. You want an F1, okay that is on Jenkins not on Mason. This is but an example of a myopic view of so many bad calls or lack of calls. Jenkins was behind the ball and reached around to grab the ball. If a F1 is called it has to be on Jenkins not Mason. Mason was between the rim and the ball and slapped down on the ball. You want to call a foul on Mason...okay, but it isn't a F1. A case can be made for Jenkins getting a F1 or Mason getting a common foul, but not Mason getting a F1. Just one of many mistakes on the refs.

The refs were horrible, but Purdue still managed even with the refs to lead the whole game until the final 3+ minutes and so Purdue could have still easily walked out with a W. Brandon Newman got 2 outstanding looks and missed. Zach seemed out mentally and slow to the ball. I'm not sure Purdue was ready to play as they needed and allowed NW to hang around too long. They have to understand the other team has players on scholly as well and they are bringing their A game and you need to bring at least a solid B. Like others I could mention specific things, but prefer Purdue to play a two man game twice when Zach is on the blocks and doubled. Kick it out and then feed it back in so they double again and have to rotate again rather than taking a double and automatically kick it opposite where weakside is covering since the know the rule of scoring on one and passing out on doubles. Get those guys covering the outlet in rotation as well.

Lastly, the out of bounds call Matt made although futile I REALLY liked. Trigger man (intended shooter) gets ball to open Braden and delays getting inbounds until Braden drives to screen for triggermen (Brandon) who runs to the corner as Braden is to screen Brandon's defender and flip ball back to Brandon for 3 ball. Brandon's man runs through Braden and he goes to the line with the clock stopped. Set solid screen and Buie is on your hip and Brandon was open. Buie was too slow and so he just fell into teh path were Braden was to throw the ball. Had Braden been a bit slower to drive the ball he would have pulled Buie more and left Brandon for a wide open 3. It involved only a typically really good 3 pt shooter and a typically really good FT shooter. Wouldn't have matter in the outcome, but I liked the out of bounds play.
 
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"If we want to be the best league in the country, then we need our officials to be the best in the country.” Shrews ...

Every single B1G coach has made comments about how bad they have gotten. They need to get better or this league may never see another title.
 
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Winning at NW has never been easy for Purdue...even with Glenn Robinson (I recall Big Dog hitting a baseline jumper in regulation or OT to win there). Going into this game I was concerned...and it played out that way. Letting a team go on a 17-3 run in the last 4 minutes should not happen...clearly a meltdown. TOs, missing wide open looks (should make about half of those), losing composure, and not having a killer instinct to put teams away...all ultimately lead to a loss today.

I do not believe Newman will ever realize his potential. Clearly...he has the talent but never seems to live up to it. He reminds me of Wheeler. His play does not justify 22 minutes on the floor today...

I thought going into today that our toughest game left was at Maryland. After today's game...my confidence winning there has dropped. I fully expect University of Indiana to win at NW (having lost at home to NW...gives them a chip on their shoulder)...reducing our lead to 1 game setting up a very tough game at Mackey...just my 2 cents.

After today's loss...Purdue is still a #1 seed. Definitely...we want to avoid dropping to a #2 seed in Alabama's bracket. Bama is one team that "scares" me with their athleticism. I would not want to play them until the FF4...
Bama, Zona, Texas, and Kansas are the teams I do NOT want to see come March. We need nasty, tough, athletic guards in the worst way.
 
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Bama, Zona, Texas, and Kansas are the teams I do NOT want to see come March. We need nasty, tough, athletic guards in the worst way.
Zona isn't guard heavy, Bama maybe, Texas they had better guards last year and our bigs dominated, Kansas is just a well coached team....our 3's and 4's would need a big game to keep up.
 
Zona isn't guard heavy, Bama maybe, Texas they had better guards last year and our bigs dominated, Kansas is just a well coached team....our 3's and 4's would need a big game to keep up.
I'm worried about those teams because they're big and nasty - the whole game gets clogged up for the guards (and ZE).
 
I'm worried about those teams because they're big and nasty - the whole game gets clogged up for the guards (and ZE).
worry to your heart’s content…

I’ll spend my time enjoying another NCAA run and wether our opponent can handle US…
 
"If we want to be the best league in the country, then we need our officials to be the best in the country.” Shrews ...

Every single B1G coach has made comments about how bad they have gotten. They need to get better or this league may never see another title.
I wonder with the shot clock creating more quick scoring opportunities if that also increases the number of bad calls or missed calls. There is a lot to see so quicky that I can understand how the number of bad calls might be worse today than a long time ago. Seems very plausible to me...
 
I'm worried about those teams because they're big and nasty - the whole game gets clogged up for the guards (and ZE).
Trying to see what you see. Zona just lost to a soft Stanford team(no tourney), Bama got blasted by Oklahoma(no tourney), Illinois beat Texas with their 3' & 4's. Kansas hasn't been great and has had a lot of close games as well. So, if you are equating close games to being "tough" well we have shown that we can be tough.
 
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