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2/3 of a year doesn’t make you quick. Charlie runs a 4.53 sec 40 as reported by his coach Kyle Ralph.
He’ll likely end up at I.U. when this is all said and done. For everyone that is a naysayer, there are those of us that believe he is a Quality RB. Enough said on my end for now.
Again, as I said to his other Uncle NewPal, if you think a 19 year old playing against 17 Year olds isn’t huge, you’re just never going to get it. Imagine Rondale playing RIGHT NOW against 17 high school kids. Get it?
 
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So he will be damn near 20 entering freshman year in college. No wonder he is dominating. I just looked at a few birthdays on our roster and he is older than some of our redshirt freshman. I looked in alphabetical order in our redshirt freshman on the roster and Payne Durham has played 2 seasons for us and isn’t 19 yet.
Did any of those redshirt Freshman Bench over 400 lbs, squat 670 lbs 3 times, and have greater than 10K yards? His Jr & Sr year achieved 120+ TDs. Several of those TD’s were in playoffs against better than normal competition.
I understand he is barely on radar to many programs. Some P5 will take that chance and he’ll make them happy. Too many coaching changes ahead plus December and Feb signing days to not get his shot. My $.02
 
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2/3 of a year doesn’t make you quick. Charlie runs a 4.53 sec 40 as reported by his coach Kyle Ralph.
He’ll likely end up at I.U. when this is all said and done. For everyone that is a naysayer, there are those of us that believe he is a Quality RB. Enough said on my end for now.

Can you cite a "naysayer"?

Are said "naysayers" simply people who recognize he has no P5 offers?

He's a quality RB. I haven't seen anyone question that.

Has anyone seen said 4.53 confirmed? That's pretty fast... for a fullback.

I think you're correct: he'll end up at IU... as a PWO. Or, maybe they have an open schollie and offer. Regardless, these threads are just ... *sigh*....
 
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Did any of those redshirt Freshman Bench over 400 lbs, squat 670 lbs 3 times, and have greater than 10K yards? His Jr & Sr year achieved 120+ TDs. Several of those TD’s were in playoffs against better than normal competition.
I understand he is barely on radar to many programs. Some P5 will take that chance and he’ll make them happy. Too many coaching changes ahead plus December and Feb signing days to not get his shot. My $.02
Did any of those RS FR get a P5 offer? (yes)

You keep banking on "coaching changes" and other variables. If he's sliced bread, he shouldn't need "ifs" a "buts".

2-star on 24/7.

0 star on Rivals. Completely un-ranked. Yet, everyone knows who he is.

The kid is good. Really good. He's not a secret. They've all seen him.
 
Can you cite a "naysayer"?

Are said "naysayers" simply people who recognize he has no P5 offers?

He's a quality RB. I haven't seen anyone question that.

Has anyone seen said 4.53 confirmed? That's pretty fast... for a fullback.

I think you're correct: he'll end up at IU... as a PWO. Or, maybe they have an open schollie and offer. Regardless, these threads are just ... *sigh*....
Sigh...acknowledge all points minus coach Kyle Ralph’s reported timing of Charlie’s 40. Then, come back with PWO. We’ll see...sigh
When a coach finally sees beyond FB, that he can be a RB. That coach will get a gem.
On a non running back role, I could see a Chris Borland type LB. Compact, similar weights, and strong enough to plug gaps and fight thru to get tackles. Circa Joe Tiller days, give him a shot at RB, but if you want to see the field, try LB.
If he receives punishing hits, there is not much difference than delivering the hits.
 
Again, as I said to his other Uncle NewPal, if you think a 19 year old playing against 17 Year olds isn’t huge, you’re just never going to get it. Imagine Rondale playing RIGHT NOW against 17 high school kids. Get it?
How old is quick? Look at the Cathedral highlights. He broke thru the first line of defense and on multiple occasions, did not have Cathedral corners or safeties on his heels. End of story.
 
Did any of those redshirt Freshman Bench over 400 lbs, squat 670 lbs 3 times, and have greater than 10K yards? His Jr & Sr year achieved 120+ TDs. Several of those TD’s were in playoffs against better than normal competition.
I understand he is barely on radar to many programs. Some P5 will take that chance and he’ll make them happy. Too many coaching changes ahead plus December and Feb signing days to not get his shot. My $.02
I have no idea if those redshirt freshman did that. Probably not. But I do know this, and so do you. They were offered by, and signed by a D1 Power 5 school. Purdue. All of them were. And most of them had other D1 Power 5 offers. That’s whats different. He doesn’t. I don’t give a shit what he can squat 3 times. And obviously D 1 coaches don’t either.
 
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How old is quick? Look at the Cathedral highlights. He broke thru the first line of defense and on multiple occasions, did not have Cathedral corners or safeties on his heels. End of story.
He’s almost able to get in a bar and the kids he is playing against just got their drivers license. End of story.
 
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I get all that. It would have to be measured, and not your subjective judgement. Not only that, you cannot objectively time one person in one situation with another in a totally different. It's just silly to make that claim. Please don't do that.

... and the "anyone would agree with me" argument is pointless. It doesn't aid your case.

This entire thread has become pointless.

Again.
Not anymore pointless than you or me saying Carsen was quicker than PJ. It’s just a reality that anyone can see.

And it’s not a different situation: 10 yard dash, cone drill, or short shuttle, here to the foul line and back, whatever- Charlie just has more of a burst. About 50 posters have noticed that Horvath is slow to hit the hole, no matter which gap he’s trying to hit.
 
If you don’t think that being 2/3 years older is a definite advantage, regardless of all the other variables, I can’t help you. Do you know how more mature a kids body is that is 2/3 years older than another kid.
Your theory would hold water if he hadn’t put up huge numbers as a 16 and 17 year old against 16-18 year olds. But he did, so it doesn’t.
 
He’s almost able to get in a bar and the kids he is playing against just got their drivers license. End of story.
So he was driving when he went to his Middle School games, getting out of the car smoking cigs, he still is quick. Ask Cathedral. Get it? LOL
 
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Sigh...acknowledge all points minus coach Kyle Ralph’s reported timing of Charlie’s 40. Then, come back with PWO. We’ll see...sigh
When a coach finally sees beyond FB, that he can be a RB. That coach will get a gem.
On a non running back role, I could see a Chris Borland type LB. Compact, similar weights, and strong enough to plug gaps and fight thru to get tackles. Circa Joe Tiller days, give him a shot at RB, but if you want to see the field, try LB.
If he receives punishing hits, there is not much difference than delivering the hits.

This is what I don't get about this forum.

There are repeated posts (some complaints) about the level of Purdue football recruits ... then we have to endure this.

*sigh*...
 
Not anymore pointless than you or me saying Carsen was quicker than PJ. It’s just a reality that anyone can see.

And it’s not a different situation: 10 yard dash, cone drill, or short shuttle, here to the foul line and back, whatever- Charlie just has more of a burst. About 50 posters have noticed that Horvath is slow to hit the hole, no matter which gap he’s trying to hit.

Yes it is. You had the opportunity to evaluate BOTH on the same court on the same team in the same offense against the same level of competition.

Apples and apples.

This isn't that hard to grasp.
 
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This is what I don't get about this forum.

There are repeated posts (some complaints) about the level of Purdue football recruits ... then we have to endure this.

*sigh*...
*sigh*... cause if I say it THREE times, click my heels in my ruby red slippers he might be a Boilermaker. :)
 
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Yes it is. You had the opportunity to evaluate BOTH on the same court on the same team in the same offense against the same level of competition.

Apples and apples.

This isn't that hard to grasp.
No. Anyone could tell from their high school tape that one was obviously quicker than the other. Same applies here.
 
So we do not have any kind of official time at a Combine or anything but we are supposed to believe the time that was taken by his coach even though he does not look that fast on tape or in person. Hmmm.

I have personally seen coaches manipulate measurements for kids that they like/are trying to help. If the speed numbers were real you would think we would get confirmation from an unbiased source at some point.
 
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So we do not have any kind of official time at a Combine or anything but we are supposed to believe the time that was taken by his coach even though he does not look that fast on tape or in person. Hmmm.

I have personally seen coaches manipulate measurements for kids that they like/are trying to help. If the speed numbers were real you would think we would get confirmation from an unbiased source at some point.
I thought I heard he was on the track team. They time those races, do they not?
 
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No. Anyone could tell from their high school tape that one was obviously quicker than the other. Same applies here.
I know one thing he is faster than I and more likely faster than most who post and faster than 75% of the players on Purdue`s team.That makes him fast,coach Brohm lets give him a offer before he goes to Arkansas
 
So he was driving when he went to his Middle School games, getting out of the car smoking cigs, he still is quick. Ask Cathedral. Get it? LOL
Quick against turds in HS will be a little different than power 5 D1 guys. But chances are he’ll never get the chance to know. Get it?
Ask two signed D1 players on Cathedral Shiloh Means (S) and Quinton Cannon (OLB) that are both on defense and both are top 40 players in Indiana if Charlie Spegal is quick. Get it?
They don't qualify as turds.
https://247sports.com/Season/2020-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IN
Here’s the deal then .... I’m assuming this kid is a good student, from a good family, who has no off the field issues that would be keeping college coaches away. If he possesses all the talent you say he does, at the level he does, against the competition he does.....what gives? Why isnt he being offered? All 60 Power 5 head coaches, their various assistant coaches who recruit this area, and their recruiting coordinators....all can’t be missing. What’s the problem? He has 3 D1 Power 5 Schools in his own HOME STATE!! Result? No offers. What coaches see is he doesn’t have something. What is that something? Go....
 
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Quick against turds in HS will be a little different than power 5 D1 guys. But chances are he’ll never get the chance to know. Get it?

Here’s the deal then .... I’m assuming this kid is a good student, from a good family, who has no off the field issues that would be keeping college coaches away. If he possesses all the talent you say he does, at the level he does, against the competition he does.....what gives? Why isnt he being offered? All 60 Power 5 head coaches, their various assistant coaches who recruit this area, and their recruiting coordinators....all can’t be missing. What’s the problem? He has 3 D1 Power 5 Schools in his own HOME STATE!! Result? No offers. What coaches see is he doesn’t have something. What is that something? Go....
They see FB not RB. Tag your it.
 
If he has ran a confirmed 4.5 that should dispel that concern. But if they still think FB, um, offer him as a FB. Why arent they doing that?
If he has ran a confirmed 4.5 that should dispel that concern. But if they still think FB, um, offer him as a FB. Why arent they doing that?
You got me in checkmate. They have Zander Horvath and Alfred Armour already handling those responsibilities.
 
They're not idiots.

They can look at a HS QB and identify him as a great college DB, WR, etc., and they certainly have the intelligence to know if Spegal would be a competitive RB (or LB).
High school QB's get moved all the time at a lot of colleges as they are typically the best overall athletes on the field so I agree with you. RB's I don't have enough knowledge if they get moved or are pigeon holed. The armchair coach in me looks at Spegal and think LB.
https://uwbadgers.com/sports/football/roster/chris-borland/3615
 
Quick against turds in HS will be a little different than power 5 D1 guys. But chances are he’ll never get the chance to know. Get it?

Here’s the deal then .... I’m assuming this kid is a good student, from a good family, who has no off the field issues that would be keeping college coaches away. If he possesses all the talent you say he does, at the level he does, against the competition he does.....what gives? Why isnt he being offered? All 60 Power 5 head coaches, their various assistant coaches who recruit this area, and their recruiting coordinators....all can’t be missing. What’s the problem? He has 3 D1 Power 5 Schools in his own HOME STATE!! Result? No offers. What coaches see is he doesn’t have something. What is that something? Go....
On a serious note, I too wonder what that something is.
 
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I know one thing he is faster than I and more likely faster than most who post and faster than 75% of the players on Purdue`s team.That makes him fast,coach Brohm lets give him a offer before he goes to Arkansas

Faster than 75% of the players on Purdue's team? That's just BS. I've seen him play in person and this evolution here from some questioning his speed to now others using "fast" and "quick" is ridiculous. He's a good high school back, but if he wants to come to Purdue it should be as a walk-on. If he did, I'd support him as I do the other Purdue players. But there is absolutely no reason to waste a scholarship on him when Purdue has good young backs on the roster with a legitimate 4☆ in the 2020 class. Purdue also has other needs and that's where any remaining scholarships should go.
 
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Faster than 75% of the players on Purdue's team? That's just BS. I've seen him play in person and this evolution here from some questioning his speed to now others using "fast" and "quick" is ridiculous. He's a good high school back, but if he wants to come to Purdue it should be as a walk-on. If he did, I'd support him as I do the other Purdue players. But there is absolutely no reason to waste a scholarship on him when Purdue has good young backs on the roster with a legitimate 4☆ in the 2020 class. Purdue also has other needs and that's where any remaining scholarships should go.
If only that 75% of our roster had "Charlie Spegal Speed"....
 
Faster than 75% of the players on Purdue's team? That's just BS. I've seen him play in person and this evolution here from some questioning his speed to now others using "fast" and "quick" is ridiculous. He's a good high school back, but if he wants to come to Purdue it should be as a walk-on. If he did, I'd support him as I do the other Purdue players. But there is absolutely no reason to waste a scholarship on him when Purdue has good young backs on the roster with a legitimate 4☆ in the 2020 class. Purdue also has other needs and that's where any remaining scholarships should go.
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Faster than 75% of the players on Purdue's team? That's just BS. I've seen him play in person and this evolution here from some questioning his speed to now others using "fast" and "quick" is ridiculous. He's a good high school back, but if he wants to come to Purdue it should be as a walk-on. If he did, I'd support him as I do the other Purdue players. But there is absolutely no reason to waste a scholarship on him when Purdue has good young backs on the roster with a legitimate 4☆ in the 2020 class. Purdue also has other needs and that's where any remaining scholarships should go.
He can,only 30% on the roster w/r,r/b,d/b and I`m sure he can beat some of them
 
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He can,only 30% on the roster w/r,r/b,d/b and I`m sure he can beat some of them

28% of the scholarship roster are receivers(NOT including tight ends) and DB's(CB/S). He's not faster than any one of them, let alone Fuller, Hewitt, Dorue and possibly other running backs. There are also likely TE's and LB's who are faster. Heck, even a couple of QB's and even P/K are possibly faster. Your claim is ridiculous.
 
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