Who signs with Purdue this fall?

[Wolegib]

Fans have to start realizing it’s not the schools who are paying the big nil contract offers. Those offers are coming from boosters and private companies. Miami didn’t give pack all that money, a booster did. The guy who paid pack all that money will find somebody new. And players can make their own nil deals. They don’t need to work those deals through the school or even require the school’s permission.

Purdue’s biggest problem is that their wealthiest donors are more interested in donating their money to academics rather than athletics. And are more interested in donating to cancer research and st Jude’s hospital than to giving to one and done athletes!

Places like Texas A&M are always going to have huge nil donors. Because their ethics and values are different than Purdue donors! My donations go to elementary schools, not athletes. The Armstrong Foundation donates very little to athletes! The same is true with Ely Lilly.

While not a popular opinion on this forum, I think it’s awesome these foundations choose to support cancer research and education And youth programs over giving money to athletes. I say let the pro teams fund college athletes! If you got that kind of money to give to LeBron and mahomes, let them pay the college stars!

 

[Boileratthebeach]

Fans have to start realizing it’s not the schools who are paying the big nil contract offers. Those offers are coming from boosters and private companies. Miami didn’t give pack all that money, a booster did. The guy who paid pack all that money will find somebody new. And players can make their own nil deals. They don’t need to work those deals through the school or even require the school’s permission.

Purdue’s biggest problem is that their wealthiest donors are more interested in donating their money to academics rather than athletics. And are more interested in donating to cancer research and st Jude’s hospital than to giving to one and done athletes!

Places like Texas A&M are always going to have huge nil donors. Because their ethics and values are different than Purdue donors! My donations go to elementary schools, not athletes. The Armstrong Foundation donates very little to athletes! The same is true with Ely Lilly.

While not a popular opinion on this forum, I think it’s awesome these foundations choose to support cancer research and education And youth programs over giving money to athletes. I say let the pro teams fund college athletes! If you got that kind of money to give to LeBron and mahomes, let them pay the college stars!

Wow tend to agree. I’d rather support a helpful non profit via donation than some 18 year old kid to play basketball - even though he’s getting a free education.

 

[TTucker30]

He’s from jeffersonville across the river from Louisville. That’s only about 10 miles away from Sellersberg which is the home of TKR so proximity is close but it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s going to choose U of L.

Brian Neubert's article this morning said that Lousville is out of the mix now for Tre Singleton. I think it sounds like Purdue's main competition for Singleton now is Northwestern, who has recruited him the longest. Tre also said being able to play as a freshman is something that's really important for him, and the path at Northwestern would be easier to do that than Purdue. There is very little credibility to the following so take it for what you will, but I heard his Dad want's him to go to Northwestern.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Brian Neubert's article this morning said that Lousville is out of the mix now for Tre Singleton. I think it sounds like Purdue's main competition for Singleton now is Northwestern, who has recruited him the longest. Tre also said being able to play as a freshman is something that's really important for him, and the path at Northwestern would be easier to do that than Purdue. There is very little credibility to the following so take it for what you will, but I heard his Dad want's him to go to Northwestern.

That’s really interesting. Thanks for the update.

Edit: are you able to link that article?

 

[TTucker30]

That’s really interesting. Thanks for the update.

Edit: are you able to link that article?

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I think it requires a subscription to read it though.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

BOILING OVER: Purdue basketball recruiting, football visitors and more

Welcome to “BOILING OVER,” GoldandBlack.com’s weekly information clearinghouse, a spot for assorted bits of Purdue news, analysis and so on

www.on3.com

I think it requires a subscription to read it though.

Legend! Thanks! Interesting stuff!

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Brian Neubert's article this morning said that Lousville is out of the mix now for Tre Singleton. I think it sounds like Purdue's main competition for Singleton now is Northwestern, who has recruited him the longest. Tre also said being able to play as a freshman is something that's really important for him, and the path at Northwestern would be easier to do that than Purdue. There is very little credibility to the following so take it for what you will, but I heard his Dad want's him to go to Northwestern.

Knowing Painter, he won’t argue that the path to playing time at Northwestern is easier. That said, the Purdue roster doesn’t have an abundance of players who are locked into the four position. They are generally either 3-4s like Heide or 4-5s like TKR. Catchings was probably the closest thing to a pure 4 and he de-committed.

 

[northside100]

Fans have to start realizing it’s not the schools who are paying the big nil contract offers. Those offers are coming from boosters and private companies. Miami didn’t give pack all that money, a booster did. The guy who paid pack all that money will find somebody new. And players can make their own nil deals. They don’t need to work those deals through the school or even require the school’s permission.

Purdue’s biggest problem is that their wealthiest donors are more interested in donating their money to academics rather than athletics. And are more interested in donating to cancer research and st Jude’s hospital than to giving to one and done athletes!

Places like Texas A&M are always going to have huge nil donors. Because their ethics and values are different than Purdue donors! My donations go to elementary schools, not athletes. The Armstrong Foundation donates very little to athletes! The same is true with Ely Lilly.

While not a popular opinion on this forum, I think it’s awesome these foundations choose to support cancer research and education And youth programs over giving money to athletes. I say let the pro teams fund college athletes! If you got that kind of money to give to LeBron and mahomes, let them pay the college stars!

I think I agree with most of what you're saying, but there is a fundamental difference in philosophy between the Miami approach with Pack and the approach that Painter and team are taking. At least to this point, Matt Painter will not make a 'strong ass offer' to a recruit, beyond the standard NIL payment that everyone else on the team receives.

 

[BoilerAndy]

While not a popular opinion on this forum, I think it’s awesome these foundations choose to support cancer research and education

What part of your twisted brain produced this? Or is this you being original and courageous again? Or do you simply have more virtue than everyone else?

 

[northside100]

Knowing Painter, he won’t argue that the path to playing time at Northwestern is easier. That said, the Purdue roster doesn’t have an abundance of players who are locked into the four position. They are generally either 3-4s like Heide or 4-5s like TKR. Catchings was probably the closest thing to a pure 4 and he de-committed.

Yes, agree. Heide is a jumbo 3, Burgess is a 4/5. There isn't a true stretch 4 on the roster and hasn't been since Vince (Gillis was great but was a completely different mold).

 

[TTucker30]

Yes, agree. Heide is a jumbo 3, Burgess is a 4/5. There isn't a true stretch 4 on the roster and hasn't been since Vince (Gillis was great but was a completely different mold).

Kanon Catchings would have been perfect. What could have been.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Kanon Catchings would have been perfect. What could have been.

Every bit of film on Burgess shows a Big 10 body and a really soft jumper extending to the 3 line. Not sure what you think a real 4 is, but it sure AIN"T a 200lb front liner. Maybe with Zach and Mason, not with Trey and Heide. Let it go..

 

[TTucker30]

Every bit of film on Burgess shows a Big 10 body and a really soft jumper extending to the 3 line. Not sure what you think a real 4 is, but it sure AIN"T a 200lb front liner. Boy among men there.

That’s a valid point. I wonder how Burgess will do guarding more perimeter focused forwards and ball screens.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Every bit of film on Burgess shows a Big 10 body and a really soft jumper extending to the 3 line. Not sure what you think a real 4 is, but it sure AIN"T a 200lb front liner. Maybe with Zach and Mason, not with Trey and Heide. Let it go..

The game has changed and while Burgess may very well be a four at Purdue, he has the build of a five in the way that the game has evolved.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

The game has changed and while Burgess may very well be a four at Purdue, he has the build of a five in the way that the game has evolved.

What is the build of a 4 in your eyes?

 

[northside100]

The game has changed and while Burgess may very well be a four at Purdue, he has the build of a five in the way that the game has evolved.

I don’t know that it’s the build as much as the guard skills. I think a lot of people here would like to see a Robbie or a Vince type at the four, but it’s all about fit.

We’ve seen guys like Gillis and Eifert, who didn’t have guard skills, be hugely impactful because they can shoot the ball and neither had near the length or physical gifts of RB.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

What is the build of a 4 in your eyes?

I think that the 4 today is a lot like the 3 used to be. Robbie Hummel was a little ahead of his time, but he was the first name that came to mind when you asked.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

I don’t know that it’s the build as much as the guard skills. I think a lot of people here would like to see a Robbie or a Vince type at the four, but it’s all about fit.

We’ve seen guys like Gillis and Eifert, who didn’t have guard skills, be hugely impactful because they can shoot the ball and neither had near the length or physical gifts of RB.

It’s more about defense than it is about skills, at least as I see it. I haven’t seen enough of Burgess to know about his lateral quickness, but he’s big enough to match well with most big men.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

The game has changed and while Burgess may very well be a four at Purdue, he has the build of a five in the way that the game has evolved.

he's a stretch 4 by all definitions, including that we (probably) won't be playing him at the 5 with Berg, Jacobson, Furst and TKR already there.

 

[northside100]

It’s more about defense than it is about skills, at least as I see it. I haven’t seen enough of Burgess to know about his lateral quickness, but he’s big enough to match well with most big men.

I’m not sure I follow your point. I agree that he is big enough to be able to guard the five and would need to be quick enough to guard fours. So defense is certainly an important factor.

My point was that in addition to being able to guard a four. At a minimum you need to be able to shoot, which reports would indicate that RB can do. IMO, a true stretch for also has guard like passing and ball handling skills like a Robbie and Vince. That doesn’t seem to be RM’s MO, which is fine.