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Trumps Florida Home Raided by the FBI

So the issue is that you, evidently, can't think of more than a couple of "things" one could think "sucks" about Purdue, got it.
No, not the case and not the issue, obviously.

True or false to you:

(Academic reputation and tradition) > (the sum of all other "things" about Purdue)
 
Yes. They were both appointed titles Adviser to the President. The President is the Chief Executive of the country. If they are his advisers, they are privy to executive-level information... unless your assertion is that the Advisers to the President do not speak to the President.

Is that your assertion?
They only "advise", which I don't think means much with Trump.

I have heard of no evidence they implemented foreign policy like Sec. Pompeo did, interacting with intelligence people, foreign service officers, and all the rest of it. Have you?
 
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No, not the case and not the issue, obviously.

True or false to you:

(Academic reputation and tradition) > (the sum of all other "things" about Purdue)
I don't know how you can quantify academic reputation and tradition in relation to other "things." How many "thing" units is academic reputation worth? How many for athletic programs? How many for campus architecture? So, I can't answer whether academic reputation and tradition are greater than the sum of all other things about Purdue. That said, it's not particularly relevant, anyway. The poster used the word "everything," which refers to a quantity of "things." It doesn't matter if one or two of those things are more important (or however you're determining that those two things are "greater than" the sum of all other things) than the rest.

A hypothetical example: "I think most everything about your house sucks. I do like the shelter it provides, though."

These two sentences are not in contradiction. The shelter is, indeed, the most important function of a house (I think this is what you're getting at with academic reputation and tradition being "greater" than all other things regarding Purdue, though correct me if I'm wrong), but it is still only one "thing." I can dislike the location, the size, the materials, the color, the lack of a garage, that it only has one bathroom, that it's on a small lot, and many other "things" about it such that my statement that I think "most everything" sucks can still be true, despite the fact that I might think it succeeds at its primary function.

Given this, your expression above basically amounts to:

True or false, 2 > (X-2) where X is a number larger than 4 (I'm presuming we can both agree there are more than 4 total "things" about Purdue that one could like or dislike)

This expression is clearly false.

Just admit you didn't see the word "most" before you responded, Rachel.
 
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Ha! What’s pathetic is the fabricated information by the FBI and the HRC campaign to start a Russian Collusin hoax. And infiltrate a Political opponent‘s campaign.
A hoax known by Schiff and Pelosi who lied to the gullible left promoting MSM.
A hoax that divided the Country.
Than 8 weeks of a circus trying to prove Trump organized a non armed cue.
Where he offered the National Guard to protect the WH.
Whats pathetic were 2 bogus impeachment hearings.
I wonder why the Dems wanted Rudy Giuliani out of Ukraine.
Can anyone say Hunter Biden?
Whst‘s pathetic is an FBI fabricated kidnapping of a sitting Governor,.
Then the Detroit FBI director, instead of being fired, is promoted to direct the DC district just in time for the Jan 6th election protest. Coincidence? I’m not a conspiracy theorist but it raises. Questions.
i can go on about the lap top etc, etc...
What the Dems need to realize is we are not Trump idols, I don’t even like the man, we are Trump policy idols.
What size tinfoil hat do you wear?
 
Will be great to see how he handles his first potential criminal case without having the lackeys in Congress to bail him out.

Like I said a few days ago he is more dumb than he is dangerous. He really doesn’t get what he did was criminal.
Lol “potential”

When is anybody going to finally arrest and successfully charge the Don with a crime? It’s so funny that you all keep chasing him and keep whiffing.
 
Lol “potential”

When is anybody going to finally arrest and successfully charge the Don with a crime? It’s so funny that you all keep chasing him and keep whiffing.
I actually think this one where he has been mishandling classified information is the most likely to stick of anything thrown at him since January 2017. He might not get jail time, but he definitely could be fined and prohibited from ever holding office again. The sad thing is that this was completely under his control and could have been avoided if he had just done what he was supposed to do.
 
Or, and stick with me here because I'm going waaaaay out on a limb, the goal is to make him accountable for his actions... for once.
But I got to ask - why do people like Bill and Hillary Clinton and their Clintonistas (Podestas, etc.), the Bidens’, and other prominent Ds in politics never seem to be held accountable for their actions? There is an obvious double standard at work here…..
 
I don't know how you can quantify academic reputation and tradition in relation to other "things." How many "thing" units is academic reputation worth? How many for athletic programs? How many for campus architecture? So, I can't answer whether academic reputation and tradition are greater than the sum of all other things about Purdue. That said, it's not particularly relevant, anyway. The poster used the word "everything," which refers to a quantity of "things." It doesn't matter if one or two of those things are more important (or however you're determining that those two things are "greater than" the sum of all other things) than the rest.

A hypothetical example: "I think most everything about your house sucks. I do like the shelter it provides, though."

These two sentences are not in contradiction. The shelter is, indeed, the most important function of a house (I think this is what you're getting at with academic reputation and tradition being "greater" than all other things regarding Purdue, though correct me if I'm wrong), but it is still only one "thing." I can dislike the location, the size, the materials, the color, the lack of a garage, that it only has one bathroom, that it's on a small lot, and many other "things" about it such that my statement that I think "most everything" sucks can still be true, despite the fact that I might think it succeeds at its primary function.

Given this, your expression above basically amounts to:

True or false, 2 > (X-2) where X is a number larger than 4 (I'm presuming we can both agree there are more than 4 total "things" about Purdue that one could like or dislike)

This expression is clearly false.

Just admit you didn't see the word "most" before you responded, Rachel.
Since you are struggling, an easier example for you:

Most everything about this restaurant sucks, except the excellent food and service.
 
I actually think this one where he has been mishandling classified information is the most likely to stick of anything thrown at him since January 2017. He might not get jail time, but he definitely could be fined and prohibited from ever holding office again. The sad thing is that this was completely under his control and could have been avoided if he had just done what he was supposed to do.
Well put. Like I said, more dumb than dangerous
 
Or, and stick with me here because I'm going waaaaay out on a limb, the goal is to make him accountable for his actions... for once.
Are you holding Trump accountable for the strong economy, Abraham accords, and other successes?
 
I actually think this one where he has been mishandling classified information is the most likely to stick of anything thrown at him since January 2017. He might not get jail time, but he definitely could be fined and prohibited from ever holding office again. The sad thing is that this was completely under his control and could have been avoided if he had just done what he was supposed to do.
I don't think so. The FBI has so sullied its reputation with corruption in numerous cases - most notably the Russian collusion hoax - that many people are going to understandably suspect any "nuclear secrets" or whatever were planted.

No intelligent person would trust the decision-makers at the FBI after the last decade.
 
I actually think this one where he has been mishandling classified information is the most likely to stick of anything thrown at him since January 2017. He might not get jail time, but he definitely could be fined and prohibited from ever holding office again. The sad thing is that this was completely under his control and could have been avoided if he had just done what he was supposed to do.
Mission accomplished from the left if it works. They’re petrified of him!
 
But I got to ask - why do people like Bill and Hillary Clinton and their Clintonistas (Podestas, etc.), the Bidens’, and other prominent Ds in politics never seem to be held accountable for their actions? There is an obvious double standard at work here…..
Aside from the constant whataboutism I'm not sure what the Biden's have done that comes close to this (spare me the hunters laptop trope). Hillary lost an election due to her email shit and she actively cooperated with that investigation. If you think everything trump has done is comparable to most of the Dems, we don't have much else to talk about.
 
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Putting aside whether or not I agree with any or all of those things, what does one have to do with the other???
You said, "the goal is to make him accountable for his actions... for once."

Asking you if you think he is accountable for his actions as president that were successful, of which there were many.
 
Since you are struggling, an easier example for you:

Most everything about this restaurant sucks, except the excellent food and service.
Seems like you are the one who is struggling. Food and service are two "things" about the restaurant. Very important things from a qualitative standpoint, sure, but still just two out of any number of other things from a quantitive standpoint. You could like those two things but dislike the location, the prices, the chairs, the table height, the wait times, the ambiance, and the lack cleanliness of the restrooms. In which case, you would think most things about that restaurant suck. It is irrelevant that the food and service are two of the most important things. Your example is, functionally, exactly like mine was and does not represent contradictory statements.

The original post said nothing about the relative importance of various aspects of Purdue, so the fact that academic reputation is, perhaps, the most important thing about it is irrelevant. You adding that to the discussion merely shows either that you didn't understand what the actual words the poster used meant or that you had to include it post hoc as a way to avoid admitting that your claim of contradictory sentences was incorrect. In your initial response, it may have been better to comment that you thought it was funny that the poster respects Purdue's academic reputation and tradition because those are two of the things that matter the most about a university. However, you chose to make a definitive statement about the truth value of the sentences, instead, about which, you are incorrect.

This has been fun, but I'm sure you'll continue to disagree with me, so probably best we table the discussion there and stop interrupting these nice folks' argument about Trump. 🤣
 
But I got to ask - why do people like Bill and Hillary Clinton and their Clintonistas (Podestas, etc.), the Bidens’, and other prominent Ds in politics never seem to be held accountable for their actions? There is an obvious double standard at work here…..

There is a double standard because Trump himself raised the bar. He made mishandling of classified information a felony and barred the person to hold any office as a way to rub it in on Hillary. The law is not retroactive, and therefore, how the crime is treated now is understandably different.

As for Hillary, I do think Comey's reopening of her case days before election cost her the presidency. I think that's the punishment for her, although I can see why some may think that is still not enough.

Ironically, it now seems that Trump is the one mishandling classified information. Yet, there are idiots still defending him. If you wanna talk about double standard ...
 
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Do you have any idea why you feel the need to explain things for gr8nt - or are you just completely out of ideas?

Do you have any idea why you feel you can mindread and assume you know that I feel a need to explain things for gr8?

Anyway, I notice your playbook is to keep distracting from the topic when you have no argument, and try to muddy the water. I summarize your interaction with gr8 to show how you were just sidetracking the discussion, where his point was both HRC and Ivanka / Kushner had access to sensitive information and thus should subject to the same scrutiny, which you never addressed. I used to appreciate listening to your thoughts, even if (or especially because) they are contrary to mine, because it allows me to see from a different angle. Unfortunately, this thread has been grossly disappointing because you didn't bring anything meaningful, just insulting those who do add value and expertise and push them away.
 
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I don't think so. The FBI has so sullied its reputation with corruption in numerous cases - most notably the Russian collusion hoax - that many people are going to understandably suspect any "nuclear secrets" or whatever were planted.

No intelligent person would trust the decision-makers at the FBI after the last decade.
Why not? Even though there wasn’t evidence of direct collusion, there was plenty of knowledge, expectation, and links between Russian and Trump campaign sources. Was it worth investigating? Probably, considering if something HAD been found proving collusion it would undermine the election.

We just spent all kinds of money investigating claims of fraud that didn’t exist. But you get bent about this one which definitely showed… what’s the word you guys like… “irregularities.”
 
They only "advise", which I don't think means much with Trump.

I have heard of no evidence they implemented foreign policy like Sec. Pompeo did, interacting with intelligence people, foreign service officers, and all the rest of it. Have you?

Kushner played a key role in negotiating the Middle East deal:


Of course, he also benefits from it:

 
That’s correct.

And DOS classified is not the same as no
-shit TS/SCI found in your private home either… which was the point of this entire stupid discussion.

You know that.
I applaud you for speaking for yourself, no matter how muddled your thinking is.
 
Why not? Even though there wasn’t evidence of direct collusion, there was plenty of knowledge, expectation, and links between Russian and Trump campaign sources. Was it worth investigating? Probably, considering if something HAD been found proving collusion it would undermine the election.

We just spent all kinds of money investigating claims of fraud that didn’t exist. But you get bent about this one which definitely showed… what’s the word you guys like… “irregularities.”

Mueller actually made it very clear that his investigation did not exculpate Trump for the acts he allegedly committed. There wasn't enough evidence to charge him. So yeah, there were "irregularities", but not enough to press charges.

 
Why not? Even though there wasn’t evidence of direct collusion, there was plenty of knowledge, expectation, and links between Russian and Trump campaign sources. Was it worth investigating? Probably, considering if something HAD been found proving collusion it would undermine the election.

We just spent all kinds of money investigating claims of fraud that didn’t exist. But you get bent about this one which definitely showed… what’s the word you guys like… “irregularities.”
Thanks for the laugh - "plenty of knowledge, expectation, and links..."

Regarding irregularities, see June 3, 8, 22. Trump was cooperating.

 
Because you were explaining things for gr8nt. You did so without feeling a need to?

I was not explaining things for gr8. You can keep saying that till your face turns blue, but it doesn't make it so.

I was summarizing the interactions between you two and expose how you were deflecting and sidetracking, like you are doing now.

Nice job though, I must say. It's like two boxers, one getting beat up badly, so he just tried to hug and hold on to the other guy. That's actually a fairly effective tactic for someone whose counter was laughably weak.
 
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