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Trumps Florida Home Raided by the FBI
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No. She was an OAN host. That’s why she left OAN. Newsmax does well and can afford to pay well. OAN is in danger of going belly up. It was a good foresight move on her part.
Anyway, she is in the middle of extremely complex legal issues with a very opinionated, powerful client, and in my opinion is not in any way experienced in handling the legal complexities. She has the experience to handle the media angles, but not the legal motions. I’m not even sure she’s with a firm. Where is she going to form a team of associates to respond to motions during a time crunch?
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Maybe she'll get help from Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell? They seem to be a legal Dream Team, and has done an amazing job in the 2020 election.
I’m not in anyway disparaging her for being unprofessional or less than successful in her career path.
I’m just saying that she doesn’t have relevant experience to deal with the matter at hand.
My bad. Get them mixed up.
Pretty sure OAN did shut down. Verizon pulling the plug on them was their deathknell.
Looks like someone has realized you might want an actual expert helping you in this stuff.
Oh no. My father in law will only watch CNN or MSNBC. He never looks at opposing views.
Never said the mainstream news shouldn't change. What they should absolutely not do is peddle opinion as news which is what is going on far too long.
I highly recommend you read this book and you will understand the effect the media has on public opinion.
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You already have one strike against you for being a Leoosier fan.
Are you also an attorney?
Love how everyone he interviews, there's literally NOBODY around them. Wouldn't surprise me if some of them are made up lol.
I wondered who the person is who still follows the daily show. I guessed it was puf - but no, it's the Tin Man.
How the hell is he gonna sell that? That he's protecting classified material......when his supporters have been demanding answers since the seizure?
I'm sure he will come up with something that the faithful will fall into line around.
Not lobbing any insults at anyone in this thread.
Been trying to add substance because I am familiar with the process. Most lawyers are not especially familiar with this process btw.
so, you’re welcome Riveting?
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You assumed I was insulting you by asking if you are an attorney?
You didn't answer the question, btw, but that is not uncommon on this forum (right @BuilderBob6 ?)
Thank you for sharing your insights and adding substance. I find them helpful.
I am very simple. I appreciate great insights where I feel like I've learned something I don't know. Even (or especially) if they are views or opinions that are contrary to mine. So I don't care if you are a Hoosier fan or not. I care whether what you said have substance, or just the same old b!tching about nothing that unfortunately fills the board most of the time.
You said I’m an “(IU insult)” and that was “one strike”, and also an attorney. So yes; I inferred that “attorney” was an insult and the “second strike.”If that wasn’t your intention? My bad.
I believe that the information I provided prior to it being confirmed should show that I have experience in this area. I’m choosing not to state my professional occupation on a message board. I’m an IU grad-just assume I make the fries! 😁
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I am calling you out for being a hypocrite again, chuckpig, per your recent exhortation to do so.
DOJ summary of events, detailed after I posted today.
Trump lawyers confirming.
Every single criminal procedure book.
DOJ policies and procedures manual.
Finally, usually when someone posts opinionated bullshit, there’s someone here with opinionated bullshit that contradicts it. No one will able to cite contradictory information for what I posted because it’s established legal process and I didn’t take a cheap shot at anyone including Trump, his lawyer, Garland, etc.
Just shared the actual process with you guys. Hell even you aren’t arguing with the veracity of what I posted.
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I want to complain. It seems to me that the quality of fries has declined in recent years.
If it's open season on fast food places: I hate that McDonald's ditched the Cherry Icee for the Sprite Icee.
Thanks for the book recommendation. Looks interesting. I just downloaded it from the library, and hopefully I can squeeze enough time to take a look. It is a bit dated though, more than 10 years old I think, but it should still be relevant.
That said, I don't consider CNN / MSNBC "news" but more so opinion / news commentary. Just like FOX. Your frustration that your father-in-law spouting views from CNN / MSNBC is similar to those who are frustrated with people who only regurgitate whatever Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity spouts. Do you get frustrated at people spouting Tucker Carlson's views?
Christina struggled a bit tonight.
www.mediaite.com
Trump’s Lawyer Gives Bizarre Answer on Why the Former President Won’t Show Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant: 'Decorum'
An attorney for former Trump was vague and evasive when NewsNation's Leland Vittert asked why Trump does not just release the warrant for the raid on his home.
www.mediaite.com
You don't the need the "if" for HRC. It's a well known fact (or at least should be) that there were multiple email chains on her server with information that had top secret classification at the time.
Fortunately for her Comey (Republican), Lynch and the "team" gave her the get out of jail free card because she was supposedly too stupid to understand code classifications.
The Tin Man also follows and posts tweets from Aaron Rupar. Don’t Rupar me, bro.
The dude must be smoking that wacky tobacky. Reagan would be called a RINO with these crazy folks.
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News anchor with President Trump's attorney Christina Bobb last night:
VERSUS Eric Trump 'exclusive' interview two days ago:
President Trump this morning:
VERSUS Eric Trump 'exclusive' interview two days ago:
So it went from:
"You guys had a copy of the warrant and were given a receipt at the end of the FBI search warrant."
Attorney Bobb: "Right."
VERSUS Eric Trump 'exclusive' interview two days ago:
"Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago.."
President Trump this morning:
"Made them (his attorney) wait outside in the heat, wouldn’t let them get even close - said “ABSOLUTELY NOT.”
VERSUS Eric Trump 'exclusive' interview two days ago:
"Eric Trump revealed FBI agents ... kicked an attorney off the property."
So it went from:
- '"refused to hand over search warrant" which would have been completely inappropriate and
- 'kicked off the property'
- Had a copy of the warrant and were given a receipt at end of the search, which is the normal, straightforward protocol and
- On property but not in the areas that were being searched, which is the normal, straightforward protocol.
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But outside in the Florida heat, right? Does that not strike you as petty and unprofessional?
J Turley said last night the more-revealing info will be in the affidavit, which was used to convince the Trump-hating magistrate to approve the search.
Are you concerned Trump was hiding top-secret nuclear info to sell to the Russians?
Fine, not defending Hillary, but my point, that the penalty back then was a lot different than it is now, after Trump himself raised the penalty for mishandling classified info, still stands.
While we are at it, let's not forget Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner also used private emails to handle government business. Hillary might have the "that used to be OK protocol, look at Colin Powell" excuse, what's Ivanka and Kushner's?
Cummings: Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump's private emails, texts raise security concerns
Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said in a letter to the White House that the use of private email accounts and the messaging application WhatsApp by senior administration officials raises "security and federal records concerns."
www.pbs.org
Colin Powell had a private server like HC did? And the Trump kids too? I didn't realize it was so prevalent.Fine, not defending Hillary, but my point, that the penalty back then was a lot different than it is now, after Trump himself raised the penalty for mishandling classified info, still stands.
While we are at it, let's not forget Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner also used private emails to handle government business. Hillary might have the "that used to be OK protocol, look at Colin Powell" excuse, what's Ivanka and Kushner's?
Cummings: Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump's private emails, texts raise security concerns
Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said in a letter to the White House that the use of private email accounts and the messaging application WhatsApp by senior administration officials raises "security and federal records concerns."
Are you aware of how simple and inexpensive it is to set up a private email server? Seems like you think it’s the most nefarious thing there is… like you expect to be able to email Hillary Clinton at HRC2016@gmail or something.
I guarantee the entire Trump family is on a private server. Probably most public figures are.
Handling government business on private e-mail, regardless of if it is Clinton.com or mac.com is a violation of protocol. I could’ve gotten in trouble for it years ago. It was wrong for any of them to do… but it happens quite a bit.
Mishandling Special Access Programs documents - what’s being alleged here - is a huge deal and ISN’T something that happens quite a bit. There will have to be a determination of whether or not it was willful, and if it was, Trump will go to jail. If it wasn’t, he’ll be slapped on the wrist.
If this is what this is, it should turn even the most ardent Trump “patriots” against him. It SHOULD.
Of course it is, but are you aware of the magnitude of the difference between using one for all of your gov business as secretary of state versus the Trump kids using it for their non-SoS activities?
Right; outside in the Florida heat.
- OR in their air conditioned car(s) in the driveway.
- OR at their law office.
- OR at a restaurant or any other place down the street, including but not limited to the Trump International Country Club, which is about 4 miles away.
- OR at the Donald Trump owned mansion that he bought from his sister which is directly across the street from Mar-A Lago.
Just like every other defense attorney in every other case with a search warrant everywhere else in the United States. So no, it is not petty or unprofessional to not allow a defense attorney into the search site building. 1) Law enforcement was flat-out following the legal standard and 2) 'Not being inside the building being searched' is the flat-out expectation of every defense attorney that has ever been involved in a case with a search warrant.
Can you imagine law enforcement being required to allow a defense attorney and a case subject, upon their request, into the area being searched by law enforcement? "Hey Johnny, I'm here at the search warrant of your house and they just found the payment records to Susie. Quick - get moving and whack her before she can be interviewed!" Or "They just found the records of the bank accounts. Quick, transfer the money to another account." Or, "They found the stuff under the floorboards and got you dead to rights Johnny. Don't get on that plane back to the States - stay out of the country!"
Turley is absolutely right. The affidavit has the probable cause, not the warrant.
USDCJM Reinhard has been one of the truly pre-eminent lawyers and Federal Prosecutors in South Florida prior to becoming a Federal Magistrate. A registered Republican but entirely concerned with applying legal standards. Period.
Am I concerned about Trump selling nuclear info to the Russians? With that question you're not asking about legal process; you're asking me how I feel about this. For me? No, I am not especially concerned about that. I also have no reason to believe that is what was part of the probable cause or what was found during the search warrant because I have not seen the probable cause affidavit.
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Do you think his pre-eminence is why Epstein hired him, per this from the Washington Free Beacon:
Prior to becoming a judge in 2018, Reinhart spent 12 years as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, the office tasked with investigating the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein for sex trafficking in 2005.
The federal case against Epstein ultimately went nowhere thanks to a controversial non-prosecution agreement Epstein's lawyers negotiated with the U.S. Attorney's office. While the terms of that deal were being finalized in late 2007, Reinhart opened a limited liability company in Florida listed at the same address used by Epstein's lead attorney, Jack Goldberger. Reinhart resigned from the U.S. Attorney's office on Jan. 1, 2008. Epstein hired him the very next day. Reinhart would go on to represent Epstein's pilot, scheduler, and alleged "sex slave," all of whom received immunity from federal prosecution.
Sorry, my sarcasm radar isn't working today. So just in case you are serious,
Colin Powell told Clinton he bypassed official servers to email foreign leaders
Former secretary emailed ‘without going through State Department’ and old email exchange shows Republican dismissed some security restrictions
and
Colin Powell defends personal email use
Powell appeared proud that he had defied security officials by using handheld devices in the agency's secure spaces.
www.politico.com
Seems like to me back then, the guidance wasn't as strict, and folks basically just ignore them.
