We already have too many players that play defense and do not score.
Purdue v. Illinois Game Thread
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We already have too many players that play defense and do not score.
He does NOTHING on offense. Just jogs around. If he can't do anything more, he shouldn't be in the game. Play someone who has intensity and wants to be...
hard to figure this jekyll and hyde team. great 3 point shooting at home and we cant spit in the ocean on the road. hopefully next year we have some players that can shoot in any gym
Yeah, you missed the point. We have a bunch of special snowflakes who can only perform when the moon is full, the ball is at a specific PSI, their socks have the right thread count, etc. We desperately need someone who has a killer instinct and brings it every night. Will to win is a powerful thing.
And, yes, we need offense too.
Lol god no. We need a carsen, etwaun, hummel, etc. Kramer was a very average player with a poor offensive game.
Holly hell are a bunch of you dense. Yes, having ten guys who can get their own shot and score at will is great. HOWEVER, how often do the loaded one and done teams fold when they hit adversity? To build a great team you need guys to fill multiple roles. In addition to having no offensive fire power, we do not have a guy who is getting after his teammates to bring it. There is a reason GMs always talk about the importance of locker room guys. You need culture guys, and I think the lack of an alpha is a major issue for this team.
He was a solid defender and poor offensive player. Yes, average at best.
Me too. It counts as one loss. I'll be ready for the next game. Defense was ok, held them to 63.
Purdue was:
25% shooting
18% 3 pointers
40% free throws
That won’t beat some high school teams.
25% shooting
18% 3 pointers
40% free throws
That won’t beat some high school teams.
Defense was horrific. You do realize Illinois hasn't scored over 71 points in a conference game this season, right?
He was a legendary defender...…..average offensive player.
Would it not be more accurate to say that we need someone with Kramer’s will to win- not his actual skillset?
Robbie Hummel would have been a better pick imo
Lol there was literally nothing legendary about his play at purdue. The real purdue legends have their jerseys hanging in mackey. Kramer is not one of them.
How so? You honestly believe Kramer was a highly skilled basketball player? He was one of the worst offensive scholarship guards Purdue has ever had.
literally wrong.....defensively he may have been the best ever
6.4pts 3rbs. 2.5assists for his career...…..hell, he shot 47% for his career
Defensively? are you serious? He was in a class all his own. That all takes skill.
He was a Johnny tryhard who benefited from defense being called differently back then. Im not going to romanticize some role player from a decade ago.
I did not mean “above- average” as a knock on him. I should have said “way above average- top 1%- the very best”
If Kramer was an average offensive player then the bar for a B10 starting guard is very low. There were times I remember arguing that Kramer needed to play less because his reluctance to take an outside shot killed the flow of the offense.
Naa, im right. Legends get their jerseys hung in the rafters. Where's kramers?
Kramer was a better offensive player than Nojel is- I will admit that... but that is not saying much.
I would take him over eastern too. But if we're talking just strictly adding any painter player he wouldn't even be in my top 20.
I agree with both points. Just pointing out that I would in fact take Kramer even though he wouldn’t be in my top 20 choices either.
Kramer was indeed a role-player. His role was hard nosed defensive stopper/court general. He fit perfectly in the lineup with Grant, Hummel, Moore, and Johnson. I’d say the broken nose against Michigan, the “swim” dive and assist vs Tennessee in the Bahamas, the shot from his knees against Arizona, and when he willed them to a Sweet 16 (his drive and layup beating Texas A&M) after Hummel’s injury pretty much cemented him as legendary in Purdue history.
