Had Purdues offense been better the first half they would have held Illinois down another 12 or so points
Been like that ever since the Ohio State loss. Love the way we are playing. Then Loyer getting it back together. Now we need Lance to figure it out again.
IMO Cam is farther along on D than O. He moves his feet well, has some length and strength. He has to make better decision when defending the shot. He has fouled a 3 pt shooter 2 or 3 times in the last couple of games and a soft low foul on the head tonight. I like seeing him in for D...I see some real potential with him down the road
I expect them to be in the 2nd weekend. However, Seen a lot of brackets with them in the west region as a 4…potential 2nd rd matchup with BYU in SLC. BYU launches 32 3s a game (2nd in country) and Illinois does not guard that well. That’d be a tough matchup for sure but not confident anyone could stop Shannon or Domask.
Challenging a shot?! Without fouling?! Does Purdue teach that? I mean, Edey can’t possibly do that right? He has to foul every time! So how could cam do it too?! 😆He gets in the chair, TJ
Thought he got one phantom one last night, but shot challenging w/o fouling can be a learned skill - not surprised with his development.....continuing to sleep on Mr. Heide could be frightening.
That "chair" shows your age!He gets in the chair, TJ
Thought he got one phantom one last night, but shot challenging w/o fouling can be a learned skill - not surprised with his development.....continuing to sleep on Mr. Heide could be frightening.
Yes, but in the heat of the moment there is a split second for that decision. Generally on the 3 pt shot you see defenders challenging outside the body on the shooters hand side to try to keep the body fouls down due to momentum in the close out. BTW, Zach went down hard last night. I felt the vibrations in Indiana. Hope he gets some back treatment if needed...
I thought that too!!!! - that was damned tough to hold for long!!That "chair" shows your age!
When Purdue isolates Zach with post feeds and Zach kicks it back out and a bit less movement of others it allows the refs to see the total D on Zach and since he is fouled all the time it is easy to find a foul if fouled as opposed to a lot of action that takes the refs eyes away. That said he probably didn't help himself while the views were on him as much as another naturally stronger and better versed on D
That last foul should have been a flagrant. He was clearly trying to rough up Edey and the last one was excessive.
It was quite obvious. In 2.5 mins of game time dude picked up 4 fouls. Which also makes the box score in fouls look closer than it was because of this stupidness.
Well, Purdue throws it to Zach a lot. If Zach "is deep" it is almost a guarantee he scores two. If you foul him before he scores it may not be two...and the clock is stopped. When a team has several bigs especially if they are not part of the offense (NW) then they can foul Zach when he has it deep in theory up to 6 fouls before he shoots. That "could" be 12 points each half or 24 potential points in a game. Then if you add that he is around 70% at the line...it still makes sense to foul him if he is deep and all these situations are counting on a foul being called which many are not.
Yeah, I understand the theory, it's just that when you are dealing with Edey and the knowledge that he draws more fouls than any other player in the game, it seems like a bad idea to help it along. I guess it depends upon your faith in Big Ten refs (gulp). Up until that time, the refs were generally giving the Illni the better side of the whistle, so yes, they had fouls to give. But you are betting on that continuing, and Big Ten refs aren't exactly known for their consistency. Zach could have gone on tear after that and started drawing multiple fouls. Then suddenly Purdue is in the double bonus with 10 minutes to play.
Again, I just laid out some thinking and why Illinois or another team might do such...especially if Zach gets it down low. As in all of life, there is no right answer it is always what you are willing to give up with what you hope to get. I have no idea how old you are, but if old enough you might recall North Carolina State against Houston in 1983 where they started fouling Houston early...course Zach is a better FT shooter than Houston at the time. Here is a nice clip...not so much of the game but of Valvano
I think you mean if they call a foul they shouldn't try to foul when Purdue is in bonus, not the other team? If Zach is deep as in the context I wrote...it is much higher than 62% I suspect. With the metrics you have how is his positioning scoring when left block or right block or in the middle just barely above the arc versus when pushed out 6 or 7 feet from low position. What do the metrics say? I'm guessing they are quite different. My guess is the left block is 1, middle 2 and right block 3 when deep and those spots quite a bit different if out another 6 or 7 feet. What are are the expected points in those situations just in case the populations are different? Is there a position he gets the ball where his scoring is much more efficient than 62.3% since that is an average of some poor shots too far out and some good shots in close. We know teams are not going to foul him behind the arc or at the FT line...or at 8 feet. When do the effective numbers change above the 62.3% average?
I think Underwood is full of it. He simply put his Freshman thug in to rough Zach up a bit hoping it would cause Zach to fall off his game....or not.
Could be...none of us know or probably will ever know. They can beat a lot of teams though.
I just remembered a game years ago when Purdue played Northeastern who had Reggie Lewis (RIP) on his team and tried to salvage a game in the tourney against Purdue with at guy sent in to do that. I think Calhoun (ex UConn coach) coached a few years at Northeastern.
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was CalhounI just remembered a game years ago when Purdue played Northeastern who had Reggie Lewis (RIP) on his team and tried to salvage a game in the tourney against Purdue with at guy sent in to do that. I think Calhoun (ex UConn coach) coached a few years at Northeastern.
Purdue vs. Northeastern Box Score (Men), March 13, 1987 | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Purdue vs. Northeastern Box Score (Men), March 13, 1987
I thought that but it lists another coach as a first year coach then in the link above in roster in roster/stats as Karl Fogel. I was surprised because I remembered like you. Maybe it is a misprint?
