Earlier today, I read some Purdue fans bragging about how this coming season their team would play like the Golden State Warriors.
Seriously, you can't make that stuff up.
Ya come on here to chat and have a little fun and they get all whiny and uptight, call troll names and such.
Grow up boys.
You diss the IU coach and yet you won't find one IU fan who doesn't respect Painter.
I'm going to post something a true, grown-up, Boiler fan wrote recently. He's a man I respect because he doesn't post little fanboy nonsense.
Here's what he had to say about Archie Miller and his recruiting:
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I spoke with two friends that are pretty plugged-in on the inside chatter of Midwest recruiting/AAU matters. I was asking them about IU and Miller and how much/little I should be worried about them as a Purdue fan. Here are some of the highlights of what they said. Note – Neither is an IU fan and one honestly is fairly anti-IU in his fandom:
- It’s like night and day vs the Crean years in terms of recruiting. They are very disciplined and focused in how/when they offer, where as Crean just "sprayed" offers all over the top-75 just hoping they would commits by sheer volume.
- One used a military term "strack" to describe how orderly and well prepared things are on visits. They have full-boat multi-media presentations using the fancy gizmos from the Mark Cuban money to show video of the player and match it to what the IU team does and where the players skills fit. Both said "it’s VERY specific and detailed on breaking down a players game." Both said the presentation is very "sleek and profesional…like NBA level professional". Crean and Davis were logistical nightmares as far as thinking about details. Crean was like the dog that couldn’t keep his eyes on you every time a proverbial squirrel poked around the corner.
- Having very respected assistants as part of the conversation has been key. Schilling is very good in laying out the "this is your path to the NBA" conversation. And given the long list of NBA players he’s worked with, it tends to get kids attention.
- As mentioned before, Miller is very convincing. He’s very honest in his assessment of a players strengths and weaknesses. He pulls no punches. Parents seem to like him a lot given his balance between tough love but sincere care for the kids welfare. He spends a great deal of time talking about non-basketball matters and relates very well to kids. On of my recruitnick buds said "he’s got a very good sense of humor and it really puts kids at ease". I’ve heard this before in context to Robbie Hummel’s mom strong sentiments towards Archie Miller. If the mom of the most Boiler-of-Boilers has that positive view of Miller, then you know there is some credence to it.
- One of them mention "geography". They are coming north in a way that they haven’t in a long time. Miller got the first Soth Bend IU recruit since Abernathy in just months after being hired (Anderson). They went after Phinesse knowing full well where he was playing. They are targeting Newman in just the same way. They aren’t going to get everybody up north, but they may start to pull an uncomfortable share of players from traditional "Purdue territory". He said "you may grow to hate him as much as Izzo".
- Both said kids returned from IU officials/unofficials "impressed"…and not in the casual-speak of "every-visit-is-labeled-a-good-visit". Kids that go in maybe not really having IU at the top of their list suddenly see see IU as a real likely destination. One commented "I’m not sure Jerome Hunter and Dez Anderson had IU ver high on their list before going on their visits, but they both came away from their visits ready to commit". He said "I think IU visits now have much more impact they than have had in perhaps the last 20 years…and this is coming also from AAU/HS coaches saying this too. IU has always had certain advantages on visits, but haven’t done a good hub maximizing those advantages. So far, they’re doing a real good job compared to recent years."
I’m not trying to depress us in sharing this as I’d love to post info that is quite the opposite, but when we see Miller hit on a top-10 class his first time on the trail, it does give you pause as far as what they now be capable of doing that they haven’t done in a while. I think there is a perception now that things may be different down there, and it’s not the delusional IU-fanboy pumping up of each new coach as the next Knight or McCracken. People independent of IU in the recruiting circuit see it and it’s pretty noticeable. It’s also important to keep these things in the back of our mind should we lose some players like TJD, Brooks or Newman to them…and hopefully not set off some massive "anti-Painter" sentiments as well. They can get theirs, but it doesn’t mean the sky is falling. Keady built a top-3 team the year after IU won the title. We went to the final 4 while IU had the core of their ‘81 title team intact. We were a favorite to make the Final 4 they year after IU spent the majority of the year as the number #1 team (93-94). We can coexist and it’s no reason to hyperventilate if they rise up"
Y'all could learn a lot, bless your hearts.
Seriously, you can't make that stuff up.
Ya come on here to chat and have a little fun and they get all whiny and uptight, call troll names and such.
Grow up boys.
You diss the IU coach and yet you won't find one IU fan who doesn't respect Painter.
I'm going to post something a true, grown-up, Boiler fan wrote recently. He's a man I respect because he doesn't post little fanboy nonsense.
Here's what he had to say about Archie Miller and his recruiting:
"
I spoke with two friends that are pretty plugged-in on the inside chatter of Midwest recruiting/AAU matters. I was asking them about IU and Miller and how much/little I should be worried about them as a Purdue fan. Here are some of the highlights of what they said. Note – Neither is an IU fan and one honestly is fairly anti-IU in his fandom:
- It’s like night and day vs the Crean years in terms of recruiting. They are very disciplined and focused in how/when they offer, where as Crean just "sprayed" offers all over the top-75 just hoping they would commits by sheer volume.
- One used a military term "strack" to describe how orderly and well prepared things are on visits. They have full-boat multi-media presentations using the fancy gizmos from the Mark Cuban money to show video of the player and match it to what the IU team does and where the players skills fit. Both said "it’s VERY specific and detailed on breaking down a players game." Both said the presentation is very "sleek and profesional…like NBA level professional". Crean and Davis were logistical nightmares as far as thinking about details. Crean was like the dog that couldn’t keep his eyes on you every time a proverbial squirrel poked around the corner.
- Having very respected assistants as part of the conversation has been key. Schilling is very good in laying out the "this is your path to the NBA" conversation. And given the long list of NBA players he’s worked with, it tends to get kids attention.
- As mentioned before, Miller is very convincing. He’s very honest in his assessment of a players strengths and weaknesses. He pulls no punches. Parents seem to like him a lot given his balance between tough love but sincere care for the kids welfare. He spends a great deal of time talking about non-basketball matters and relates very well to kids. On of my recruitnick buds said "he’s got a very good sense of humor and it really puts kids at ease". I’ve heard this before in context to Robbie Hummel’s mom strong sentiments towards Archie Miller. If the mom of the most Boiler-of-Boilers has that positive view of Miller, then you know there is some credence to it.
- One of them mention "geography". They are coming north in a way that they haven’t in a long time. Miller got the first Soth Bend IU recruit since Abernathy in just months after being hired (Anderson). They went after Phinesse knowing full well where he was playing. They are targeting Newman in just the same way. They aren’t going to get everybody up north, but they may start to pull an uncomfortable share of players from traditional "Purdue territory". He said "you may grow to hate him as much as Izzo".
- Both said kids returned from IU officials/unofficials "impressed"…and not in the casual-speak of "every-visit-is-labeled-a-good-visit". Kids that go in maybe not really having IU at the top of their list suddenly see see IU as a real likely destination. One commented "I’m not sure Jerome Hunter and Dez Anderson had IU ver high on their list before going on their visits, but they both came away from their visits ready to commit". He said "I think IU visits now have much more impact they than have had in perhaps the last 20 years…and this is coming also from AAU/HS coaches saying this too. IU has always had certain advantages on visits, but haven’t done a good hub maximizing those advantages. So far, they’re doing a real good job compared to recent years."
I’m not trying to depress us in sharing this as I’d love to post info that is quite the opposite, but when we see Miller hit on a top-10 class his first time on the trail, it does give you pause as far as what they now be capable of doing that they haven’t done in a while. I think there is a perception now that things may be different down there, and it’s not the delusional IU-fanboy pumping up of each new coach as the next Knight or McCracken. People independent of IU in the recruiting circuit see it and it’s pretty noticeable. It’s also important to keep these things in the back of our mind should we lose some players like TJD, Brooks or Newman to them…and hopefully not set off some massive "anti-Painter" sentiments as well. They can get theirs, but it doesn’t mean the sky is falling. Keady built a top-3 team the year after IU won the title. We went to the final 4 while IU had the core of their ‘81 title team intact. We were a favorite to make the Final 4 they year after IU spent the majority of the year as the number #1 team (93-94). We can coexist and it’s no reason to hyperventilate if they rise up"
Y'all could learn a lot, bless your hearts.
