Yeah, we all know Cal is a great man who never cheats or bad mouths anyone. And I sooooooooooo believe your hangnail story. We all know Purdue fanboys NEVER lie or exaggerate.
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Hey very thoughtful post.
I think a lot of factors. We lose Robert Johnson add Romeo clearly a huge upgrade. I think a PG spot that is our biggest worry is still better with Robert P and Green. Sounds like green is having a really good offseason. Archie said he finally sees what it takes to be good. Jerome hunter is a sleeper. Good at all parts of the game. Also adding a Race Thompson who has had a year to develop. Throw in a 6’10 grad transfer who shoots 43% from 3 and can run the floor. We have 10-11 guys who could get minutes and arguably the best one two punch in Romeo and Morgan.
We are deep in the middle this year which hasn’t been the case in quite some time. Also Archie and his staff has been there now for a year and the defense got a lot better. We just didn’t have any play makers or shot makers last year and we upgraded in both.
Also I think Justin Smith could take the biggest leap on the team. The talent is there.
I have heard the argument not enough balls to go around. And rankings don’t matter and they don’t but anyone who has watched Romeo play he isn’t a me guy and he’s good enough the offense will run thru him and Juwan.
I think IU and PU have the same floor 6-7 in the league and a bubble team. Purdue has the best player but top to bottom IU has more talent (IMO obviously) which i believe gives them a higher ceiling.
But I concede there are a lot of what ifs for both teams.
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Another IU fan obsessing over Purdue and creating a new login id so he can feel better venting. It won't help, Montana. You are who you are.
Carsen was all frosh under 40% shooting as well as Stephens. Romeo will be all frosh even if he struggles
The only "chucker" around here may be you who created a weird new ID to disguise your real Peegs ID. So long troll.
IU fan obsessing over Purdue? Give me a break. IU is constantly mentioned in threads on here. Purdue is rarely talked about on IU board.
Why are there so many IU fans here constantly?
Do Purdue fans frequent the Indiana board? I went over there and looked today to make sure it's not dead. It has plenty of active topics from what I can see so it's baffling why every thread over here has multiple IU fans. Just a very odd thing.
Do Purdue fans frequent the Indiana board? I went over there and looked today to make sure it's not dead. It has plenty of active topics from what I can see so it's baffling why every thread over here has multiple IU fans. Just a very odd thing.
Usually all that "mentioning" is by (1) the few IU fans that feel the need to discuss basketball with a knowledgeable and rational bunch of fans (see Cheeseman), or (2) the majority IU fans that have the irresistible urge to get some sort of recognition from their big brother (See Montana48). That's okay we can mention IU all we want. We don't really need your permission, but thanks for stopping by.
Jon Rothstein just posted all of his preseason predictions, including power rankings, All BIG First team, impact freshman, transfers, all that jazz.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein
Big Ten Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Michigan State
2. Michigan
3. Nebraska
4. Indiana
5. Wisconsin
6. Maryland
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Purdue
10. Ohio State
11. Penn State
12. Illinois
13. Northwestern
14. Rutgers
Big Ten Preseason Player of the Year:
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Big Ten Preseason First Team:
Carsen Edwards, Purdue
James Palmer, Nebraska
Juwan Morgan, Indiana
Jordan Murphy, Minnesota
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
15 Impact Big Ten Freshmen:
R. Langford, IU
J. Smith, Maryland
A. Wiggins, MD
A. Dosunmu, Illinois
D. Oturu, Minnesota
B. Johns, UM
I. Brazdeikis, UM
D. DeJulius, UM
M. Bingham, MSU
G. Brown, MSU
F. Loyer, MSU
J. Ledee, OSU
L. Muhammad, OSU
E. Dowuona, Purdue
J. Wieskamp, Iowa
10 Under-The-Radar Big Ten Freshmen:
Tevian Jones, Illinois
Robert Phinisee, Indiana
Eric Ayala, Maryland
Serrel Smith, Maryland
Justin Ahrens, Ohio State
Duane Washington, Ohio State
Rasir Bolton, Penn State
Myles Dread, Penn State
Montez Mathis, RU
Pete Nance, Northwestern
10 Big Ten Breakout Players:
Justin Smith, Indiana
Thomas Allen, Nebraska
Xavier Tillman, Michigan State
Jon Teske, Michigan
Nojel Eastern, Purdue
Anthony Gaines, Northwestern
Nate Reuvers, Wisconsin
Da’Monte Williams, Illinois
Kyle Young, Ohio State
Eric Curry, Minnesota
10 Impact Big Ten Transfers:
Evan Boudreaux, Purdue
Keyshawn Woods, Ohio State
Peter Kiss, Rutgers
Ryan Taylor, Northwestern
A.J. Turner, Northwestern
Andres Feliz, Illinois
Evan Fitzner, Indiana
Schnider Herard, Maryland
Brock Stull, Minnesota
Trevor Anderson, Wisconsin
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein
Big Ten Offseason Power Rankings:
1. Michigan State
2. Michigan
3. Nebraska
4. Indiana
5. Wisconsin
6. Maryland
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Purdue
10. Ohio State
11. Penn State
12. Illinois
13. Northwestern
14. Rutgers
Big Ten Preseason Player of the Year:
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
Big Ten Preseason First Team:
Carsen Edwards, Purdue
James Palmer, Nebraska
Juwan Morgan, Indiana
Jordan Murphy, Minnesota
Ethan Happ, Wisconsin
15 Impact Big Ten Freshmen:
R. Langford, IU
J. Smith, Maryland
A. Wiggins, MD
A. Dosunmu, Illinois
D. Oturu, Minnesota
B. Johns, UM
I. Brazdeikis, UM
D. DeJulius, UM
M. Bingham, MSU
G. Brown, MSU
F. Loyer, MSU
J. Ledee, OSU
L. Muhammad, OSU
E. Dowuona, Purdue
J. Wieskamp, Iowa
10 Under-The-Radar Big Ten Freshmen:
Tevian Jones, Illinois
Robert Phinisee, Indiana
Eric Ayala, Maryland
Serrel Smith, Maryland
Justin Ahrens, Ohio State
Duane Washington, Ohio State
Rasir Bolton, Penn State
Myles Dread, Penn State
Montez Mathis, RU
Pete Nance, Northwestern
10 Big Ten Breakout Players:
Justin Smith, Indiana
Thomas Allen, Nebraska
Xavier Tillman, Michigan State
Jon Teske, Michigan
Nojel Eastern, Purdue
Anthony Gaines, Northwestern
Nate Reuvers, Wisconsin
Da’Monte Williams, Illinois
Kyle Young, Ohio State
Eric Curry, Minnesota
10 Impact Big Ten Transfers:
Evan Boudreaux, Purdue
Keyshawn Woods, Ohio State
Peter Kiss, Rutgers
Ryan Taylor, Northwestern
A.J. Turner, Northwestern
Andres Feliz, Illinois
Evan Fitzner, Indiana
Schnider Herard, Maryland
Brock Stull, Minnesota
Trevor Anderson, Wisconsin
Obviously. What more can we say now that you have posted this wonderful fantasy of what this kid did in high school. Perhaps every team should just coincide FOY to him before the season even starts?
Why do I have this premonition that this next season is going to be rough on these IU trolls who run around other teams boards with their chests all puffed out, proclaiming victory this early in the year?
and apparently Dowuana is going to be our impact freshman... Hard to see that happening unless he just a defensive juggernaut at the rim and we can play Haarms at the 4 some. For me I would consider Wheeler our most important "freshman" and likely to have a big impact. Hunter probably second.
He didn't do that, just listed his impact freshman. However, he's getting ready to do a podcast on the subject, on the College Hoops Today podcast, so maybe he'll name an all frosh team on there. In fact, he's taking questions on Twitter right now that he will answer on the podcast, so feel free to ask him what you want.
Some people that have watched Dow play think very highly of him. They think he might be one of the all-time great sleepers in this class. Personally, I don't think so, but I've got an open mind on the subject.
Is he part of the group of people that are so very wrong every year? When you are a writer you can say anything you want. Does not make you an expert.
The only IU topics over here are IU fans trying to convince us that Romeo belongs on some sort of non-existent "BIG All-freshman pre-season team".
Now of course IU does get mentioned in our picks for BIG, but so do the other 13 BIG teams. It's pretty funny that because we put IU in our BIG picks, somehow we are obsessed with this school and not UM, MSU, Iowa, etc. who also are on our lists. Actually it is not as funny, now that I think about it. It is pretty sad, and very telling that IU fans have reacted this way.
What I take from this is that Purdue fans aren’t all that worried about Archie at this point and IU fans are desperate to convince we should be.
I’ll wait until he beats a tourney team to start worrying myself.
3 months from now many questions will be answered once each team step foot on that court in between those lines how individuals will perform but last I check no one player will win games by himself. What I’m reading is Indiana got the more talented team than Purdue well I look at it like this Indiana has tones of pressure to produce NOW bcuz of what the roster looks like their freshman class and their 5 star player that has them finishing in the top half of the big 10 making the Ncaa tournament even reaching sweet 16 and will probably be inserted into the top 25 when season begins so the pressure it on them not Purdue. Yes 4 seniors departed with experience I understand that but 5/6 players return that has college experience big 10 championship experience Ncaa tournament experience including sweet 16 experience. All played in games on the roads in loud venues so quite a bit of experience Is coming back with no pressure bcuz Purdue lost 4 seniors a lot of offensive production but yet bring back 6”7 PG and defensive guru 6”6 sharp shooter 6”0 POY candidate Gerry west award winner 7”3 defensive specialist and mr hustle 6”6 and 2 red shirts who practiced and played against each of those players 6”9 freakishly athletic wing shooter and 6”4 sharp shooter and 6”8 top 15 grad transfer who what has 2 years college experience with 3 freshmen that are just as talented as Indiana freshmen class that will probably play. Don’t see all 5 freshmen playing along with what experience Indiana brings back. None of these freshmen has played one single game yet only time will tell who gonna do what when they facing some of the best coaches in this league scouting them. This team understands they are not expected to do as well this season bcuz of what was lost but best believe their building chemistry they in that weight room talking amongst each other knowing what is being said about them and You can bet believe this young team is motivated to prove that guy who said Purdue will finish 9th wrong. Tennessee was predicated to finish last in the SEC by the same guy and what they do took home a share of the SEC title. Opinions are not always right 3 months will see.
Honestly don't know. He covers college basketball regularly, that's all I know. I just posted it because it's on the topic this thread is about.
Yet, here you are on the Purdue board. lol.
OK, serious IU fans. This had to make you cringe.
Please understand that this is why we make fun of the "wait 'til next year" crowd. We have been hearing it from goofballs like dumbhoosier since you ran Davis out of town, and some of you just don't learn that you should be quiet on other team's boards until you actually have something to brag about.
This video shows that 6'5 Romeo Langford is really good at scoring over 5'10 high schoolers.
How bizarre do you think he felt is was with people handing him their babies? That fan base is looney.
Peegs covers college basketball regularly and most of his coverage is overblown IU hype
Yes.....what does that have to do with Rothstein? Jon is an unbiased view and he is giving his opinion on the Big Ten. That's all. Thought people might be interested. If you have a problem with him, don't read it. He's also a poll voter, so his opinion will matter in the preseason polls and onward into the season.
His opinion doesn't matter. Winning matters. I swear the SNU is strong with these people. They think it matters that a guy who watches basketball and has a word processing program or a vote on a poll matters in the grand scheme of things.
One of the characteristics of this board is a general disdain for "sports writer/experts". We all like to read what they say, but so often they have been so very wrong about Purdue that it has created a credibility gap for them.
Almost no one gets by citing some sports writer's prediction as an argument point here. If you can clearly explain why you think your prediction is true, that works. Telling us that some sports expert working for the Star says something rarely gets any traction.
Case in point is all the hype surrounding Romeo. The poor kid might become a great basketball player, but unless IU wins an NC next year, some will think he is a disappointment because of the way he was sold to the IU public by these "sports experts". Frankly, he is going to be pretty good, but he and IU will need lots more than just Romeo to meet current predictions, in even the BIG. As mgkcbb has pointed out, Romeo has struggled when facing equivalent talent. It takes time and practice to learn how to play with the college level opponents.
Those sports "experts" have gone down the trail of 'IU will be great because they now add Romeo', and 'Purdue will be mediocre because they lost all those seniors' (paraphrasing). However, when we fans look closely, well... maybe those experts might have missed a lot, and their predictions don't stand up well under analysis.
I haven't seen any IU fan or writer predicting IU will win a national championship this year. Most IU fans (and writers for that matter) have IU finishing between 3rd and 6th in the Big 10. Most IU fans agree that the ceiling for this team is the 2nd weekend of the tourney. I wouldn't call those lofty expectations.
As for "experts" being wrong about Purdue when it comes to them losing a ton of senior talent, I will disagree there as well. The last time Purdue lost a plethora of seniors was when the baby boilers left. The team the following year finished 6th (would have been way worse than 6th had Robbie left with his correct class).
Over the last 10 years, when has IU been preseason hyped and not lived up to it apart from Crean's last year (Preseason 11th in both polls)? In 15-16' we were pre ranked 15th. Won the Big Ten and lost in the Sweet 16. The only other time we were preseason ranked was 12-13' (preseason #1 and got the #1 overall seed in the tournament).
Oh, really? Winning matters? Who knew?! You realize the whole point of this thread is to predict what will happen within the BIG this coming season, right? Our opinions don't matter either, the teams that win don't care about our opinions one bit. Literally, all I did was post someone else's opinion on the BIG this season, to add to the discussion. I didn't even add commentary to say what I thought about it, just pasted it here for another viewpoint. Take it or leave it, you obviously choose to leave it.
I ask you what does it matter at this point season hasn’t started both teams got lofty expectations and for whatever reason you on this board which is your right to give your opinions about your school team you root for on a Purdue do what brag about their incoming Freshmen their 5 star prodigy and neither I might add has played 1 single game yet and you sir predict the future of what those guys will do and yet say Purdue 3 freshmen are not as talented interesting. Its cool you a fan of Indiana and yes they probably will be better this season but sir Purdue will be good too they bring back some really talented pieces that all played in the big 10 championship sweet 16 tournament beat Ncaa tournament teams traveled on the road and played in in arenas that were very loud and none of those freshmen yet have experienced that at all either team. So 3 months from now we’ll see if your predictions are right or wrong but it’s not cool that you downgrade Purdue players like they are beneath Indiana players bcuz sir in my opinion that isn’t true either. Pressure pressure pressure clock ticking a lot of expectations for a team that brings back Some pretty good pieces and a player that suppose to make them a contender this season for big 10 Championship and a 2nd weekend in Ncaa Tournament but Purdue looses albeit 4 really good seniors and now the sky is falling according to many. Well 4 seniors depart but Purdue brings back more than enough that makes them contenders too. Do not be fooled about what you read Purdue got more guys can score and shoot than many think they now will get to play this season and I bet money they are ready to take on bigger roles and will be effective doing so. Season around the corner 62 days and counting.
This years Purdue team brings back a lot more than the 2012 team, and I mean a lot more. Sixth is actually higher than this guy y’all shared is predicting. So if you add in what we return such as possible POY along with Nojel, who is a better defender than anyone on your team and Haarms, a seven footer who can drive and block shots, it’s not outrageous to think Purdue still finishes top 5 in the league.
IU fans hope they will be better with nothing to support it and they hope Purdue will drop off the map, but those feelings have nothing to support them other than hope.
We see this every year with IU fans. Hype, hype, and more hype as they celebrate without winning a game. Perhaps you should wait until you beat a tourney team before you get too excited?
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