BNIBoiler said:

Since it never happened I cannot answer for certain. I would guestimate it would be similar. Racist FDR sure enough put Japanese AMERICANS into internment camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The number of German Americans interned during WW2 was relatively small compared to the Japanese Americans.

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and I believe there would be no difference

bonefish1 said:

And i told you, slavery was more of an economic issue than a race issue. Black Africans just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when cheap labor was needed. The conquering African tribes who sold their fellow black Africans into slavery didn't do it because they were black. They did it because it was a source of money.
And as far as blacks suddenly being free to go their marry way in 1865, be realistic. You really think slave owners running huge plantations were just going to give up their livelihood without a fight?

Your being black has to do as about knowing slavery as me being white has to do with owning slaves. You didn't know any slaves. No one you knew or anyone they knew were slaves.

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Like I said earlier, stay in your lane. You keep harping on the Africans that sold the other African captives. You have very little to say about the Americans that sailed to Africa, bought and picked them up in order to be sold in the US like grain. The Africans sold their war captives to the Europeans for money. You are correct about that. However, the American bought the slaves for chattel slavery, which is race based for labor.

typeviic said:

Provided for those of you who dont know that 'USAID' is a CIA (deep state) front-group. On the outside, its a so-called "aid organization". Its REAL purpose is to work behind the scenes to overthrow democratically elected governments in Central and South America (staging/sponsoring coups, installing a puppet dictator). Trump is making very dangerous enemies.
Now I know this may come as a surprise to some of you that get your news from corporate media like cnn or fox.

USAID's Disinformation Primer: Global Censorship in the Name of Democracy

Shocking revelations from a leaked USAID report expose how the agency collaborates with tech giants and media outlets to stifle free speech, silence dissent, and manipulate public opinion.

www.mintpressnews.com

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relative to the government spending I have a Libertarian lean . A little diddy below-

Officials are shutting down a federal agency called the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) with President Donald Trump’s blessing, Elon Musk said today.

“He agreed we should shut it down,” Musk said during a live session on the social media platform X, after saying he had spoken with Trump about the agency.

“It became apparent that its not an apple with a worm it in,” Musk said. “What we have is just a ball of worms. You’ve got to basically get rid of the whole thing. It’s beyond repair.”

Musk added in a post on X: “We spent the weekend feeding USAID into the wood chipper.”

Here’s what to know about Trump’s unfolding shake-up at USAID.

What Is USAID?

Established in 1961, USAID manages the distribution of U.S. aid and other financial assistance to foreign nations.

The agency’s initiatives include humanitarian response to natural disasters worldwide, global health initiatives, climate and environmental programs, and an array of others related to economics, governance, and education.

In 2023, the most recent year with full data available, USAID distributed around $36.8 billion in global aid, roughly half of all foreign aid the U.S. distributed.

For Republicans, USAID is a prime example of government waste; many criticize it for lacking transparency and oversight in how it spends its nearly $50 billion budget.

Democrats are more supportive of the agency, championing it as a life-saving source of international assistance.

Its international objectives put USAID as an institution in direct contradiction to Trump’s foreign policy aims—which emphasize focusing taxpayer spending domestically.

What’s Happening at the Agency?

On day one, Trump signed an executive order placing a 90-day moratorium on all U.S. foreign aid disbursements to allow for a reevaluation of whether those payments align with U.S. interests.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio later allowed certain humanitarian aid to continue in the interim.

Between 800 and 900 contractors from the Global Health and Humanitarian Assistance bureaus have already been fired.

Other employees have been laid off as well, with the administration citing efforts by these employees “designed to circumvent the president’s executive orders.”

Trump said on Feb. 2 that the agency “has been run by a bunch of RADICAL LUNATICS and we’re getting them out … and then we’ll make a decision.” [delete]

Additionally, the agency’s website has gone dark, while USAID’s official X account was also deleted.

Republicans have long been critical of USAID. Now, Trump’s allies are making a dedicated push to dismantle the agency.

“USAID is a criminal organization,” said Elon Musk, a top political ally to Trump, in a post on X. “Time for it to die.”

Others, including Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), have pointed to its grants to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is at the center of theories about the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Others simply see the foreign aid as largely a waste of taxpayer money with too little oversight.

Merger With State

Outlets are reporting that USAID is on track to be rolled into the State Department, in a significantly scaled-down capacity.

Trump is reported to be planning an executive order that would do just that, but Trump and his allies have been tight-lipped about specifics.

Conservatives in Washington have long discussed the idea of merging the two organizations, with the idea being presented in the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025.

House Foreign Affairs Chairman Brian Mast (R-Fla.) seemed to verify that Trump was inclined to go in this direction, saying in a Feb. 2 appearance on CBS that USAID “is likely to be going to be rolled more closely under Secretary Rubio.”

He said he would support getting rid of USAID entirely, but made clear that the Trump administration had not made a final decision on how to go about it.

Thus, specifics about this merger remain uncertain.

Democrats Raise Legal Challenges

Democrats, longtime supporters of the agency, have already pushed back against Trump’s reported plan, saying that such an executive order would be illegal.

While it was created in 1961 via an executive order by President John F. Kennedy, the agency has been codified into law through Congress—raising constitutional questions about whether Trump has the legal power to dissolve the agency unilaterally without an act of Congress.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a Jan. 31 post on X that the agency was “established in law to further our national security and spread hope.”

He said that dissolving USAID would be “illegal and against our national interests.”

Others referenced the ongoing fight for the developing world between the U.S., China, and Russia, arguing that aid disbursements handled by USAID serve U.S. geopolitical interests.

—Joseph Lord and Zachary Stieber

BOOKMARKS

Panama President José Raúl Mulino said on Sunday that his country will not renew its memorandum of understanding with China to be a part of the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), Algdra Fredley reported. It comes amid escalating threats from Trump to assert a claim over the Panama Canal.

Trump pushed back on criticisms of his tariffs on China, Canada, and Mexico, calling them a “necessary solution.” Emel Akan reported on the administration’s response to criticisms of tariff policies, which Trump has positioned as essential to restoring U.S. industry and manufacturing.

Even after being given the green light to return to their homes after fire hazards, many Los Angeles residents face difficult decisions on whether to do so, Beige Luciano-Adams reported. Many family’s homes lie in safe zones—but are surrounded by devastation, including dangerous ash.

Undersea cables crisscross the world’s waterways, connecting nations with power, natural gas, and ready internet access. They’re also endangered by China.

Andrew Thornebrooke covered four major incidents involving China cutting these undersea cables.

Also not sure how KJ isn't on one of the 3 teams.

Katscratch said:

Trump here, overall, seems to have won an agreement, where Canada is really going to do what it was already going to do. The Prime Minister saying this $1.3 billion border plan that he announced, back in December, is going to go into place.

And as for Mexico, this is how President Trump explained that result.

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TRUMP: They have agreed to put in 10,000 soldiers, permanently, like forever, 10,000 soldiers at their side of the border, and stop fentanyl and illegal aliens from coming into our country.

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COLLINS: According to Mexico’s Defense Ministry, there are already 15,000 troops, nearly, there on the border. It’s a deployment that started in 2019.

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You never answered the question: Can men get pregnant?

tjreese said:

Bob, what is this that I'm saying that the economist and WSJ disagree? My comments covered short term long term and things that can be done by the government to compensate or subsidize if you will? Here is a short list of the immediate situation with the big three that we hear about?

The governments of Mexico and Canada agreed to conditions set forth by President Donald Trump on Feb. 3, just hours before 25 percent tariffs were set to take effect on products imported from the two countries.

Executive orders signed Feb. 1 by the president are meant to force the nations’ leaders to strengthen their border policies and stop the flow of fentanyl into the U.S.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum announced that she had spoken with Trump and negotiated a one-month pause on the tariffs, which were set for implementation on Feb. 4.

Mexico is sending 10,000 National Guard troops to its northern border to counter narcotics trafficking activities.

The White House reports approximately 500,000 pounds of fentanyl was seized at the border in each of the past three years.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died as a result of fentanyl poisoning since 2020.

Thousands of illegal immigrants have been pouring through the border daily in recent years, and Trump has ordered a halt to what he describes as an “invasion.”

He confirmed a deal with Mexico, saying, “They’re very strong now on the border. They want to protect it also. They don’t want people coming through Mexico to come into our country.”

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau later announced a similar deal after speaking with Trump.

In exchange for a 30-day temporary pause on the tariffs, Canada will spend $1.3 billion to combat fentanyl trafficking by purchasing new technology and helicopters and hiring more personnel to keep an eye on the border “24/7.”

Cooperation with U.S. law enforcement will strengthen operational capacity, and 10,000 Canadian personnel will be sent to the border.

Canada is also investing $200 million and appointing a fentanyl czar to investigate cartels, which both the U.S. and Canadian governments have now designated as terrorist organizations.

Trump remarked that Canada should become part of the U.S., saying he’d like to see it “become our 51st state.”

The president talked with Trudeau about what he sees as problematic trade policies, like those that keep American banks from doing business in Canada.

He said, “We’re not treated well by Canada, and we have to be treated well.” Highlighting a trade imbalance that he’d like to recalibrate, the president said, “We can’t let them take advantage of the U.S. “We don’t need them for anything.”

China

10 percent tariffs on China started today, in addition to hefty fees already placed on goods from the country during Trump’s first term in office.

China hit back overnight with a raft of retaliatory measures.

It said it would implement a 15 percent tariff on coal and liquefied natural gas products as well as a 10 percent tariff on crude oil, agricultural machinery, and large-engine cars imported from the U.S. Those tariffs will take effect next Monday.

China also announced export controls on several elements critical to the production of modern high-tech products.

The Chinese regulator said it was investigating Google on suspicion of violating antitrust laws. The announcement did not mention the tariffs but came just minutes after Trump’s 10% tariffs on China were to take effect.

Calling the Chinese Communist Party responsible for allowing the flow of fentanyl precursor chemicals that ultimately result in the deaths of Americans, Trump has ordered tariffs to increase if China does not follow his orders.

He said the country “will be dealt with,” and a call with Chinese President Xi Jinping is expected in the coming days, according to White House officials.
The president suggested his policies are proving effective because “tariffs are very powerful, both economically and in getting everything else you want.”

—Travis Gillmore and The Associated Press

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Ffs. You were talking about tariffs and the effect of them. Short term long term. Then you said "How all these things work out is much more important that knee jerk response based on fear told by msnbc and it's ilk."

I'm saying it's more than the liberal media who are talking about the negative effects of tariffs. That's my point.

Trump wants to go back to 1890 and institute tariffs. He thinks they are good. Economists think they're bad.

Why are you now posting about the politics of tariffs? Copy and paste. I read the news.

BNIBoiler said:

Also, I'm not concerned with slavery prior to US existence. I said earlier, I live here in America with ancestors that were enslaved and went through the Jim Crow era. We have the so-called founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and others that owned hundreds of human beings each relatively recent history. I don't put them on a high pedestal like y'all do. Slave owners in the state of Maryland even got reparations for losing their "property" after the Civil War.

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And Kamala Harris' family in Jamaica where very prominent slave owners there. Why does that not concern you?

BNIBoiler said:

I almost feel sorry for these Flavor Aiders. They want so bad for a "win" for their man it's a shame. They'll take anything as a win.

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It's only been 2 weeks and Trump's accomplished than Biden did in 4 years!
Trump wins.......again.

Riveting said:

Slavery within Africa existed long before the US existed. What was African slavery the result of?

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Also, I'm not concerned with slavery prior to US existence. I said earlier, I live here in America with ancestors that were enslaved and went through the Jim Crow era. We have the so-called founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and others that owned hundreds of human beings each relatively recent history. I don't put them on a high pedestal like y'all do. Slave owners in the state of Maryland even got reparations for losing their "property" after the Civil War.

BB62 said:

We aren't even talking about the same thing. I'm talking about tariffs that are actually implemented. Not the threats of them. Not the victory lap for getting things from our good neighbors that was already promised. You're in such a rush to praise trump you aren't paying attention.

Do you believe tariffs are good for the economy? Do you believe, like trump, that the cost of tariffs aren't passed on to the consumer?

This isn't the politics of tariffs. It's the effect of implementing them.

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You do realize that Trump was using the threat of tariffs as a negotiating tool, right? He doesn't have to implement to get what he wants.
Canada and Mexico caving in 12 hours are good examples of that.

A few years ago Purdue had great three point shooting and it went downhill later in the season. Some may be tired legs and recent travel.

BNIBoiler said:

Dude. No. I told you US slavery was the result of white supremacy sparked by pseudo-science. US slavery was raced based slavery called chattel slavery. The black Africans selling the other Africans was just part of the 3 headed snake of the slave trade. We've been through too many times. It it was pure economics, when slavery was over in 1865, blacks would have been on their merry way free to live and thrive. By the late 1870s that came to an end as the white supremacists enacted Jim Crow. Plus all of the racial hatred til to this day. Hence the topic of this thread. Getting rid of and blaming DEI.

You are the last person to be talking about this as you have absolutely no concept of history. You need to stay in your lane. Next thing you going to tell us that the slaves didn't have it as bad. I've had that argument here already.

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And i told you, slavery was more of an economic issue than a race issue. Black Africans just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when cheap labor was needed. The conquering African tribes who sold their fellow black Africans into slavery didn't do it because they were black. They did it because it was a source of money.
And as far as blacks suddenly being free to go their marry way in 1865, be realistic. You really think slave owners running huge plantations were just going to give up their livelihood without a fight?

Your being black has to do as about knowing slavery as me being white has to do with owning slaves. You didn't know any slaves. No one you knew or anyone they knew were slaves.

This game scares me some. Seems like there are signs of trouble for Iowa. That said, the type of game where some Hawkeye steps up and plays the game of his life. And then has zero points the next game after us. They are 11-2 at home. As said earlier, we need to get back to making some 3s to open the inside up. Go Boilers!

BB62 said:

Do you believe tariffs are good for the economy?

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That question cannot be answered with a "yes" or "no." It depends on the circumstances and there are many considerations other than the economy, e.g. national security. I believe the tariffs that Trump threatened to impose on Mexico and Canada have been very good for the United States of America. And their effect on the ecomomy was virtually zero.

Japan's steel dumping? Tariffs were good for the US economy. China pirating our computer technology and then underselling US companies. Yes, tariffs are a good retaliation for the US.

Riveting said:

Ducking the question.

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It's a vague question. You going to give me a list of scientists to choose from? Maybe check to see their political affiliation.

This is just another one of your setups for some conclusion you've already drawn. So damn transparent

BB62 said:

Economists are saying it. The WSJ is saying it. You can't blame this on the liberal media. But you'll continue to try.

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Bob, what is this that I'm saying that the economist and WSJ disagree? My comments covered short term long term and things that can be done by the government to compensate or subsidize if you will? Here is a short list of the immediate situation with the big three that we hear about?

The governments of Mexico and Canada agreed to conditions set forth by President Donald Trump on Feb. 3, just hours before 25 percent tariffs were set to take effect on products imported from the two countries.

Executive orders signed Feb. 1 by the president are meant to force the nations’ leaders to strengthen their border policies and stop the flow of fentanyl into the U.S.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum announced that she had spoken with Trump and negotiated a one-month pause on the tariffs, which were set for implementation on Feb. 4.

Mexico is sending 10,000 National Guard troops to its northern border to counter narcotics trafficking activities.

The White House reports approximately 500,000 pounds of fentanyl was seized at the border in each of the past three years.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died as a result of fentanyl poisoning since 2020.

Thousands of illegal immigrants have been pouring through the border daily in recent years, and Trump has ordered a halt to what he describes as an “invasion.”

He confirmed a deal with Mexico, saying, “They’re very strong now on the border. They want to protect it also. They don’t want people coming through Mexico to come into our country.”

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau later announced a similar deal after speaking with Trump.

In exchange for a 30-day temporary pause on the tariffs, Canada will spend $1.3 billion to combat fentanyl trafficking by purchasing new technology and helicopters and hiring more personnel to keep an eye on the border “24/7.”

Cooperation with U.S. law enforcement will strengthen operational capacity, and 10,000 Canadian personnel will be sent to the border.

Canada is also investing $200 million and appointing a fentanyl czar to investigate cartels, which both the U.S. and Canadian governments have now designated as terrorist organizations.

Trump remarked that Canada should become part of the U.S., saying he’d like to see it “become our 51st state.”

The president talked with Trudeau about what he sees as problematic trade policies, like those that keep American banks from doing business in Canada.

He said, “We’re not treated well by Canada, and we have to be treated well.” Highlighting a trade imbalance that he’d like to recalibrate, the president said, “We can’t let them take advantage of the U.S. “We don’t need them for anything.”

China

10 percent tariffs on China started today, in addition to hefty fees already placed on goods from the country during Trump’s first term in office.

China hit back overnight with a raft of retaliatory measures.

It said it would implement a 15 percent tariff on coal and liquefied natural gas products as well as a 10 percent tariff on crude oil, agricultural machinery, and large-engine cars imported from the U.S. Those tariffs will take effect next Monday.

China also announced export controls on several elements critical to the production of modern high-tech products.

The Chinese regulator said it was investigating Google on suspicion of violating antitrust laws. The announcement did not mention the tariffs but came just minutes after Trump’s 10% tariffs on China were to take effect.

Calling the Chinese Communist Party responsible for allowing the flow of fentanyl precursor chemicals that ultimately result in the deaths of Americans, Trump has ordered tariffs to increase if China does not follow his orders.

He said the country “will be dealt with,” and a call with Chinese President Xi Jinping is expected in the coming days, according to White House officials.
The president suggested his policies are proving effective because “tariffs are very powerful, both economically and in getting everything else you want.”

—Travis Gillmore and The Associated Press

I almost feel sorry for these Flavor Aiders. They want so bad for a "win" for their man it's a shame. They'll take anything as a win.

tjreese said:

Should I take this to mean that you believe had it been Asians or any other group, their slavery back then would be different than the black slavery back then?

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Since it never happened I cannot answer for certain. I would guestimate it would be similar. Racist FDR sure enough put Japanese AMERICANS into internment camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. The number of German Americans interned during WW2 was relatively small compared to the Japanese Americans.

Quix0te said:

Yes, and the WSJ and the "economists" were wrong. It appears that you are brain dead to what has transpired over the past 48 hours. Trump's tariff threats against Mexico and Canada tanked the DJIA by almost 700 points. But then the Mexican president and Canadian prime minister caved and went groveling to Trump to postpone the tariffs until they could get effective immigration controls on illegal immigration and drug trafficking. The Dow regained 75% of its losses in the afternoon and today, at 11:00 am, the DJIA is HIGHER than it was when it began the plummet yesterday.

Bottom line: The WSJ and the "economists" were wrong and Trump pulled off a major diplomatic victory yesterday. And as Trump promised, this Biden open border lunacy is going to stop.

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We aren't even talking about the same thing. I'm talking about tariffs that are actually implemented. Not the threats of them. Not the victory lap for getting things from our good neighbors that was already promised. You're in such a rush to praise trump you aren't paying attention.

Do you believe tariffs are good for the economy? Do you believe, like trump, that the cost of tariffs aren't passed on to the consumer?

This isn't the politics of tariffs. It's the effect of implementing them.

Riveting said:

Slavery within Africa existed long before the US existed. What was African slavery the result of?

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In Northern Africa, the Arabs/Muslims enslaved Europeans. As far as the Sub-Saharan Africa after tribal conquests, they would enslave the captives.

bonefish1 said:

Would you think any less of Purdue and Painter if they went and found 2-3 guys from the portal who ended up starting next year and helped them get to a FF? End justifies the means?

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Holy false equivalence, Batman!

The issue isn’t if a coach does something perfectly legal in order to win, it’s whether or not a maniacal, abusive, hypocrite POS who doesn’t think any rules apply to him because he wins basketball games is a good thing…

Just me- I prefer that someone representing my alma mater has character.

BB62 said:

I'm certainly going to get into a conversation with you about genetics, something neither of us know much about.

I will believe the scientists. You can believe TJ.

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Those were not my comments, but someone whose specific work with Bio statistics inside DNA said. Still, you are correct that neither of us know much about DNA. I just happen to be able to ask a small group inside that area a direct question that nobody is able to publish out of context. Still, I understood you believed in the Russian collusion, the violent insurrection, and the great work Biden did. THAT is not a very good track record Bob on your beliefs. Ever consider getting your intel from more reliable sources?

Blimpy said:

I like both Williams of Neb and Claude of USC, really good players, but their numbers aren't up there with the guys above, but I believe both will be good Big guards in the NBA.

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I would easily take Brice Williams over Tre Donaldson. Probably Claude too.

My fear is voters see 18 teams and figure they need to spread the vote, causing TKR to drop to the 2nd team (I don't think Wolf makes 1st team regardless...he's been bad lately).

BNIBoiler said:

Every time y'all post y'all prove your racist ways. Then have the nerve to try an educate a black man about slavery in the US is unreal. We've been through this several times.

I focus on slavery in the US perhaps is because I'm a black person living in the US with ancestors that were actually slaves in the US and ancestors that went through Jim Crow. And I never said that US slavery was worse. All forms of enslaving other humans is wrong. Like I said the other instances of slavery in ancient times were not race based because there were no concept of human races during those times. During those times, slavery was based on the loser of a particular war like the ancient Romans did. So by the time that the transatlantic slave trade was active, European white supremacy was in full swing and due to pseudo-science the black Africans were the target.

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Should I take this to mean that you believe had it been Asians or any other group, their slavery back then would be different than the black slavery back then?

BB62 said:

Maybe you have a link?

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“Both countries have been accused of violating an agreement signed alongside the USMCA to limit steel exports between each other. Some Americans, including Trump, have said that Mexico has exceeded the level of exports allowed under the agreement.”

“The U.S. government has been concerned over China–Mexico trade, particularly in the automotive sector, because it fears that Chinese companies can use Mexico to export to the U.S., circumventing tariffs on China and taking advantage of the USMCA.”

“ . . . both countries were unfairly profiting from the United States's trade deficits . . . “

“Canada was not allowing U.S. banks to "open or do business there"; Canada allows American banks to operate commercially in the country but had restricted personal banking to protect its citizens from bank failure.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_trade_war_with_Canada_and_Mexico