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Commitment and what it would mean now

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mdclaxton said:
So, you're telling me they're about be 7-0 only because of 3 guys? No. That's just laughable. Coaching matters.
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No. Their JMU class was also outstanding.

Again.. you come off like one of these guys that thinks if I note that Indians is calling themselves a mercenary program and that that matters, I must be saying Walters is good.

They can’t fire Bobinski and Walters soon enough
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Purdue picked to win Big Ten

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Bank Shot Podcast said:
Well not always. I've not claimed Indiana to be successful on the court outside of some select years this century. I'm on the fence about the coming season(ranked them 20th which seems like a fair spot). But the Indiana basketball brand itself? Yea that's as valuable as Kentucky, UNC or Kansas or any of them. The success on the floor just has to be shown and the recruiting will get better.
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Whatever brand Indiana basketball has is decreasing one funeral at a time.
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I took Purdue at +29.5 I am hoping for a win, not just a cover

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Dreambig74 said:
I can't believe that I am saying this but we are going to have a BIG problem when we play Indiana. They are up big against Nebraska. Could they be a playoff team?
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It is starting to look that way. I have a hunch they will smoke us with Wisconsin-like numbers. Other than OSU, their remaining schedule looks winnable. Michigan is not impressive this year. Indinia looks like a one-loss team at this point.

My prediction is that Oregon and Penn State will go undefeated and play in the championship. Indinia is 3rd with one loss (OSU), OSU finishes with 2 losses (UO and PSU).
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Commitment and what it would mean now

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mdclaxton said:
Thirteen, that's almost half of IUs transfer portal commits, came from JMU. I highly doubt any of those guys cost big time money, if any at all. More likely, they followed a good coach whom they liked to a bigger program. Several other transfers in their class came from the likes of Old Dominion, Temple, Austin Peay, Kent State, UMass just to name a few. Again, I highly doubt guys from those programs cost anymore than our SEC rejects.
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They had 3 transfers not from jmu who had better production on higher snaps before getting to IU than anyone we have ever brought in. Just this past offseason. Cignetti is not a genius dude
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Indinia is 6-0 and . . .

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pboiler18 said:
Football is a team sport. When you scheme and have guys play together and cover up their weaknesses and accentuate what they are good at you can get a group to play above their individual talents.

Or you can have a poorly coached group that doesn’t trust each other and plays 1v11 every play.

Just look at our records to see which one works.
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I'd say Indiana has more talent and better coaching right now.
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Purdue picked to win Big Ten

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Bank Shot Podcast said:
The money IU makes says otherwise. They are still one of the Top 5 brands in college basketball. They just have to finally put it out on the court again for once. Haven't been #1 since Zeller was in town and that was over 10 years ago.
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You may be right, but you’d have to show me what media spend or other dollars outside of donors are coming in relative to other top schools. No one is arguing that IU doesn’t have big dollar donors who give generously.

I’d legitimately be interested to understand what other money you’re referring to and what is the data that supports that view. Again, I’m not saying that you’re wrong just that I’m unaware.
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Indinia is 6-0 and . . .

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Bank Shot Podcast said:
Indiana is 6-0 because of schedule but also, being a good team. It's both. Before last week, Indiana actually had a better SOS than Ohio State(like 108 to 109). Cignetti just told dudes who didn't want to buy in to leave. Dudes who wanted that soft Tom Allen coaching. Brought in some guys like Rourke, Sarratt and Fisher who were really good at Ohio and JMU. I don't think Indiana is anywhere near the level of Ohio State or Oregon or Penn State but they seem to be on the same level right now as at least Michigan for the moment.
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Football is a team sport. When you scheme and have guys play together and cover up their weaknesses and accentuate what they are good at you can get a group to play above their individual talents.

Or you can have a poorly coached group that doesn’t trust each other and plays 1v11 every play.

Just look at our records to see which one works.
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Purdue picked to win Big Ten

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Bank Shot Podcast said:
Well not always. I've not claimed Indiana to be successful on the court outside of some select years this century. I'm on the fence about the coming season(ranked them 20th which seems like a fair spot). But the Indiana basketball brand itself? Yea that's as valuable as Kentucky, UNC or Kansas or any of them. The success on the floor just has to be shown and the recruiting will get better.
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So in your mind, brand is defined by how much money alumni contribute to the program? That would be a new definition that I had not heard.
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Purdue picked to win Big Ten

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BoilerAndy said:
Silly me. I always thought that big brands win big. I wonder if anyone outside of the IU fan base thinks IU is a "big brand". It certainly doesn't appear to be a consensus among Indiana high school players.
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Well not always. I've not claimed Indiana to be successful on the court outside of some select years this century. I'm on the fence about the coming season(ranked them 20th which seems like a fair spot). But the Indiana basketball brand itself? Yea that's as valuable as Kentucky, UNC or Kansas or any of them. The success on the floor just has to be shown and the recruiting will get better.
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How much of it’s talent?

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pboiler18 said:
Maybe not that many but we sure as hell wouldn’t get blown out every game.

We need a coach who can do more with less rather than less with less.
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I hate the ‘do more with less’ philosophy. These kids are all high level athletes. It’s the coaches job to scheme a plan to neutralize the other teams advantages, which is usually just speed.
I watched a high school sophomore QB last night that will be a major high level P5 dual threat. But, he’ll go SEC.
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6.5 min of scrimmage yesterday…

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POTFHBTFU said:
There’s been a lot of speculation on that but based on the video I thnk he’s got a lot to learn on defense. If he can let the game slow down, be more physical, and understand his defensive positioning better he will be very good. He just doesn’t have the quickness to overcompensate for not being in position. But he had good movement and his shooting looked great. In an offense with a lot of movement I can see him thriving if he can improve his screening so I do think with Time we can build an offense around him.
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As we have seen in the past, offense alone won't give you playing time in Painter's system. If he is behind on defense, it may be awhile before he sees significant time on the floor because Painter can bring him along slowly. Purdue has the luxury of being deep up front, so they aren't in a position where they have to force anything. Just be ready by the 2nd half of the B1G season.
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How much of it’s talent?

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pboiler18 said:
Maybe not that many but we sure as hell wouldn’t get blown out every game.

We need a coach who can do more with less rather than less with less.
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For the record I am including a bowl game, this is an absolutely brutal schedule. Though, between our idiotic non con scheduling and no conference divisions, these types of schedules are going to be a lot more common.
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