Lynched? Really? The perp was high on drugs dude. Get it....passing funny money, threatening the shop owner, and HIGH ON DRUGS. What you don't want to realize is that had Floyd not resisted, he'd be alive today and you'd have one less to whine about.
That is the point in all of this. It is should thing that you are not an officer. There is no training in law enforcement that says put your knee on someone’s neck and certainly not as long as Chauvin did. Also, they are also trained to render aid and they failed to do that. Listening to some of the jurors after the trial, lack of aid is what sealed the deal for conviction. Putting racism aside for the moment, poor police tactics is what killed Floyd at the least.
Putting racism aside for the moment, Floyd resisting and not cooperating in the first place is what got him killed. It really is that simple, he just had to comply and he would be alive.
Yeah, it apparently is called the “21 foot” rule. Not sure if I believe it or not this has always been the goto justification for cops that have shot someone with a knife.
Which does nothing to change the point that if you don't put yourself in those situations to begin with, then those things don't happen. Blaming others for your own actions is the democrat way though.Yeah, it apparently is called the “21 foot” rule. Not sure if I believe it or not this has always been the goto justification for cops that have shot someone with a knife.
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Sure there is. It's called a conscious neck restraint?
The cop was pure protocol BN....had the gun leveled for a kill shot all the time. Yet he didn't shoot because she never showed aggression to the officers. Never.
Well that so called neck restraint is now banned in Minneapolis. That is why the Floyd Crime Bill was so important that the Senate repubs did not vote for. Banning neck restraints was in the bill. You highlighted the the restraint was for light pressure applied to the neck......without rendering unconsciousness. Well, light pressure was not implemented wasn't it? Floyd was lynched and you know it. They had him in the car and did not take him to the station. They took him back out and killed him. What part of bad police tactics don't you understand? Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck long after Floyd stopped moving and went into unconsciousness. Chauvin still had his knee on Floyd's neck when the freakin EMT's arrived.
Of course that was pure protocol, the woman was white. That's my point. He gave her every chance. Her life mattered to him. Instead of a gun he used his taser. If the she was black, he would not have been so patient with his instructions. If she was black he would have used a gun instead of the taser.
You are an extremely smart human being. You’re able to know what someone else would do and think in various situations is nothing short of brilliant.
What did Floyd do to cause his death. You can list it from 1 to infinity. And please....no one was lynched. He died because of the drugs in his system. Illegal drugs.
So, Chauvin’s knew on Floyd’s neck for over 9 minutes had absolutely nothing to do with him dying? Is that what you are telling me?
No, what I'm telling you is HAD FLOYD NOT BEEN PASSING FAKE MONEY, THREATINING THE SHOP OWNER, RESISTING ARREST, BEEN HIGH ON ILLEGAL DRUGS, HE WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD A KNEE ON HIS NECK, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE IN THE MANUAL ON HOW TO CONTAIN A CRIMINAL. Why is it that you can't understand those simple and accurate facts?
So, in your HONEST opinion, Floyd had no part in his own death? So what you're trying to tell all of us is that it's okay to steal, it's okay to do drugs, it's okay to threaten a shop owner, it's okay to pass funny money, and it's absolutely fine to resist arrest after doing all of the above.
When you rob, steel pass funny money etc the cops come you get arrested and taken to jail. If you resist, perhaps get the crap beat out of you and then get taken to jail. The law says that the police don't have the right to kill you for the aforementioned offenses. If the cop feels that their life is in danger, the cops do have the right to use deadly force. Out of all of the recent high profile cop killings, the Floyd incident showed that Chauvin and the 3 other n'er do wells lives were absolutely NOT in danger doing that entire event.
You point out the most unfortunate thing about this situation. He was in the car. But why did they take him out? if you watch the entire video which was released IIRC by and British-based news organization (for some reason US news organizations did not release it) it was Floyd who pleaded for them to let him out of the squad car because he said he couldn't breath, he was claustrophobic and he was gonna die. They offered to roll down the back windows (which is not protocol) and he continued to panic. So they complied with his request and let him out. A passer by on the video can even be heard telling Floyd to stay in the car.
You are correct about one thing, Chauvin was a horrible cop. I didn't say that they took Floyd out of the car TO kill him. I said that they took him out of the car AND killed him. There is a difference. Anyhow, I know Floyd was complaining that he couldn't breath in the car. They still should have proceeded to the station. He ain't going to die in that car. So Floyd says that he can't breath in the car and they take him out. Then when they have their knee in his neck and he says that he can't breathe, Chauvin keeps the knee on his neck instead of taking it off. Yeah, ok.
It wasn't the neck restraint that killed Floyd. It was the high amount of fentanyl. He was saying he couldn't breathe when he was still sitting inside the police car before he was on the ground. He died because he OD'd. The dude had 3x the lethal dose in his system.
The drugs were a MAJOR role. The primary role. 3x the lethal dose is what he had in him. Get a clue.
I didn't realize that someone could be accidentally lynched. I always thought it was an intentional act.
So in your mind, Chauvin and the cops did everything by the book when dealing with Floyd? Poor police tactics at the least?
I don't think it's quite that cut and dry, but to keep things simple, yes. The police chief even testified that what they did was taught to them in their training. Now, it could be poor methods, but they didn't do anything they weren't trained to do.
Police are trained to render aid. They failed to do so. In fact, Chauvin’s knee was still on the neck when the EMTs arrived. To me that is malice intent. Listening into some of the jurors after the trial said that not rendering aid sealed the deal for them.
What you haven't answered yet is the complicity of Floyd in his own death. Why do you fail to speak any truth as to why he died.
No, poor tactics isn't what killed Floyd. You still won't admit that his criminality on that day, and past days brought his death. Common thug, common punk, common hood who had gotten by with his tactics far too long. Admit he caused his death.
Hmmm....they let him out of the car. Which they don't normally do. There was no lynching. And you're an old fat white guy stirring crap.
Sure, that's a viable argument. He wasn't exactly a great cop. He did things by the book, but didn't change his tactic when the situation required it.
As you've been told before, just because you don't agree with a statistic, does not make it false. Numbers don't lie.
It is true, but it's not true there is a larger amount of bad behavior of whites per capita. That's the difference. There is a LOT more white people, so percentage wise they don't commit as many crimes as blacks per capita. Sheer numbers wise, yes there are more whites doing bad behavior. It's the per capita numbers that changes things.
“In the end, it was the drugs that ultimately caused his death.” Are you a forensic pathologist? Did you perform the autopsy on Floyd? If the answer is no, then how do you determined that drugs was the cause of death? At least 2 forensic experts, the county coroner and the expert the Floyd family hired, the work famous Dr. Baden. Both said Floyd died by asphyxiation from Chauvin’s knee. and that drugs may have played a small role. The main cause was the knee.
Due to the fact that he was freaking out about not being able to breathe when he was just sitting in the cop car with nobody touching him. If you don't think the drugs were a factor, I don't know what to tell you.
What killed Floyd was his repeated behavior of poor decision-making. The guy was a multiple time felon! That means, he had trouble not getting in trouble. Had he just been a regular dude and gotten a regular job, not committed crimes and done drugs, he'd be alive.
BNI is a democrat. He doesn't believe in personal responsibility or consequences for ones actions. It's always someone else's fault (usually Whitey's).
If Floyd were committing an armed robbery of a liquor store and got shot and killed during the hold up, would he be responsible for his death?
