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So, it comes down to this tomorrow

I guess I can expect Jimmy references until the end of time.
Not if you admit it was incredibly stupid for you to post a video from that racist, sexist, transphobic hack and then claim you were not the messenger as if you didn't post it.

Otherwise, not that long, but yet a long time when you consider 'the significance of the passage of time,' words from Kam that you no doubt cherish:

 
Not if you admit it was incredibly stupid for you to post a video from that racist, sexist, transphobic hack and then claim you were not the messenger as if you didn't post it.

Otherwise, not that long, but yet a long time when you consider 'the significance of the passage of time,' words from Kam that you no doubt cherish:

No, it is meant to give remedial examples of the difficulty and scope of the election process in our country in the hope that MAGA conspiracy cheerleaders like yourself might understand that mistakes will be made........and they all aren't intentional or evidence of fraud. Like when you get your Happy Meal at McDonalds and they forget to include your toy. No one is trying to ruin your day. Stuff happens.
 
No, it is meant to give remedial examples of the difficulty and scope of the election process in our country in the hope that MAGA conspiracy cheerleaders like yourself might understand that mistakes will be made........and they all aren't intentional or evidence of fraud. Like when you get your Happy Meal at McDonalds and they forget to include your toy. No one is trying to ruin your day. Stuff happens.
I don't recall saying mistakes won't be made. Why are you lecturing as if I did?

I do appreciate your unintentional humor in bringing up McDs again, per Kam's alleged former job that nobody has any record of.
 
The point is that neither Trump nor Harris can do anything about national abortion laws, or lack thereof. The Dobbs decision has made it a states rights issue. Period. If Trump won and wanted a national ban on abortions, he would be powerless to do it. Likewise, if Harris wins and wants to make Roe v Wade the Law of the Land again, she would have zero authority to do so. It is not an issue in the presidential election and Democrats who squeal that it is are lying to America.
This paragraph exposes your apparent lack of knowledge about how lawmaking works. Wouldn't whomever is president have to either sign, or not sign, a national abortion ban or a law codifying Roe? Isn't whomever is president allowed to advocate to the legislators to pass a bill that would do either thing? Thus, the president CAN do something about it, yes? If it were true that "the Dobbs decision has made it a states rights issue. Period," wouldn't that mean that any of the folks running for any national office saying that they DO support a national abortion ban--or previously said they supported it, before having to run away from it given how unpopular it is--are also lying to the voters because that's not a thing they can do anymore?

SCOTUS saying "the constitution doesn't guarantee this right" doesn't mean that it can never be a national thing ever again. If that were true, then there would be no need for a congress at all, because everything that isn't already in the constitution would be a "states rights" issue, and thus, not subject to national laws, so there would be no need for a national congress to pass laws.
 
I don't recall saying mistakes won't be made. Why are you lecturing as if did?

I do appreciate your unintentional humor in bringing up McDs again, per Kam's alleged former job that nobody has any record of.
I didn't say you did. You replied to me with one of your passive aggressive posts that had nothing to do with mine. Then you did it AGAIN. I know you get all pissy when people don't forget the topic and follow your deflections. You freak out when you don't have control of a conversation. I was just giving you another opportunity to stay on point.
 
Wouldn't whomever is president have to either sign, or not sign, a national abortion ban or a law codifying Roe? Isn't whomever is president allowed to advocate to the legislators to pass a bill that would do either thing?
Check with katJM, who studied in the nationally acclaimed IU general studies program, but I think 'whoever' is correct in this case. He or she may know despite his or her demonstrated ignorance in so many other areas.
 
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I didn't say you did. You replied to me with one of your passive aggressive posts that had nothing to do with mine. Then you did it AGAIN. I know you get all pissy when people don't forget the topic and follow your deflections. You freak out when you don't have control of a conversation. I was just giving you another opportunity to stay on point.
You said the Kimmel video gives examples of the difficulties of the election process in our nation.
 
Check with katJM, who studied in the nationally acclaimed IU general studies program, but I think 'whoever' is correct in this case. He or she may know despite his or her demonstrated ignorance is so many other areas.
You would post more logically and wouldn't constantly feel the need to insult instead of answer ...

... if you weren't constantly dreaming of servicing Trump. So wipe the orange girly makeup off your lips and stop submitting posts that expose utter idiocy.
 
Anyway, I’m out of the convo . The idiotic nonsense fest by a few posters is only going to get worse, whether Trump wins or loses.
 
You would post more logically and wouldn't constantly feel the need to insult instead of answer ...

... if you weren't constantly dreaming of servicing Trump. So wipe the orange girly makeup off your lips and stop submitting posts that expose utter idiocy.
The GS program is nothing to be ashamed of if it is the best you can do.

Nor is your demented TDS at this point as it is beyond your control, obviously.
 
Anyway, I’m out of the convo . The idiotic nonsense fest by a few posters is only going to get worse, whether Trump wins or loses.
Not going to make it more dramatic like your previous departure announcements? That is incredibly sad.
 
This paragraph exposes your apparent lack of knowledge about how lawmaking works. Wouldn't whomever is president have to either sign, or not sign, a national abortion ban or a law codifying Roe? Isn't whomever is president allowed to advocate to the legislators to pass a bill that would do either thing? Thus, the president CAN do something about it, yes? If it were true that "the Dobbs decision has made it a states rights issue. Period," wouldn't that mean that any of the folks running for any national office saying that they DO support a national abortion ban--or previously said they supported it, before having to run away from it given how unpopular it is--are also lying to the voters because that's not a thing they can do anymore?

SCOTUS saying "the constitution doesn't guarantee this right" doesn't mean that it can never be a national thing ever again. If that were true, then there would be no need for a congress at all, because everything that isn't already in the constitution would be a "states rights" issue, and thus, not subject to national laws, so there would be no need for a national congress to pass laws.
Your insult to me is childish.

There is no way on God's Green Earth that the next Congress, regardless of tonight's election results, can pass either a national abortion ban or a law codifying Roe. It is flat-out impossible. The votes aren't there for either scenario. Many Republicans, including myself, favor limited abortion rights but do not approve of late third-term partial birth infanticide. Pro or Con, the passage of any kind of abortion bill thru Congress is not possible. Period.

You are clearly wrong, the President cannot do anything about abortion rights. Your comment has a circular logic that is nonetheless gibberish.
 
Your insult to me is childish.
I didn't insult you.
There is no way on God's Green Earth that the next Congress, regardless of tonight's election results, can pass either a national abortion ban or a law codifying Roe. It is flat-out impossible. The votes aren't there for either scenario. Many Republicans, including myself, favor limited abortion rights but do not approve of late third-term partial birth infanticide. Pro or Con, the passage of any kind of abortion bill thru Congress is not possible. Period.
What you've described is a scenario that is, in your opinion, unlikely. Even if that's true, that's not the same thing as "impossible." Your previous post seemed to purport that SCOTUS's decision made it that, legally speaking, abortion was now a states rights issue and that it COULD NOT be taken up via the lawmaking process, of which the president is a part.
You are clearly wrong, the President cannot do anything about abortion rights.
Your own clarification above disproves this statement, as you've correctly indicated that congress could, theoretically, pass a law. The president CAN do something about it. Whether or not he or she would be successful in doing so is a different question. But, candidates run all the time--and people vote for them--based on proposals that they ultimately are unsuccessful in implementing. That's not a reason for candidates to not advocate for positions on those issues. As I said above, the president is part of the lawmaking process, and there is nothing that makes a national law about abortion access (one way or the other) "impossible."
Your comment has a circular logic that is nonetheless gibberish.
Here is my argument, restated in syllogistic form:

Premise 1: Congress can pass bills via the legislative process that grant national rights that are not explicitly guaranteed in the constitution, as long as that right is not explicitly denied by the constitution.
Premise 2: The president is involved in the legislative process via advocating for preferred bills and signing passed bills into law or vetoing said bills.
Premise 3: Abortion is a right that is neither explicitly granted by the constitution nor explicitly denied by the constitution.
Conclusion: Therefore, the president can have an impact in whether or not abortion is granted as a national right via the legislative process.

Where's the circle?
 
I didn't insult you.

What you've described is a scenario that is, in your opinion, unlikely. Even if that's true, that's not the same t
You just got huffy and said you were leaving, and now you disappoint us.
 
Your comment was a childish insult. My knowledge of the legislative process is extensive and you know nothing about me.
How would I know that when the post by you to which I responded indicated that you thought there was no legal mechanism for the president to have an effect on national abortion rights, which (as you apparently agreed in your second post, despite the inappropriate use of the word "impossible") is clearly not the case? I now understand that you simply didn't clearly state what you meant, which is fine. But, again, simply pointing out a lack of knowledge is not an insult. I have basically no knowledge of Mongolian throat singing, and it would not be an insult were someone to point that out.

Anyway, seems we're in agreement now that the president can, in fact, affect abortion rights on a national level. We could quibble over the likelihood of that actually happening, but I'm not interested in that discussion.
 
It’s 10:30pm, how’s everyone feeling?

Betting odds just went from 53% to now 92.5% for Trump. That's making a few folks feel good....others heartburn.

Myself. Until the cheaters are silenced with actual state calls for Trump, I won't be happy
 
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You are showing your ignorance ...again.

It is in no way a national issue regardless of who wins. The USSC made it forever more a state issue.
This is kinda amazing. What would Kamala do...pack the courts and/or kill a SCOTUS? It was rightfully put back to the states as it should have been, and Ginsburg who knew it was bad law in 72 can now RIP. There are no women's rights or men's rights...just people rights. Too many adults fooled once again my the media that Kamala was going to change things outside of what I listed above.
 
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