I agree. I actually mentioned at the beginning of this thread we’ve already massively over achieved this year. I think painter can retain his culture while still playing the nil game to pay more high level players to come here.
Berg...put him in the paint and use his five fouls. TKR played very little defense tonight. I do hope Colvin doesn't have a concussion.
He hit two shots man. He has 3 pts at halftime.
I would prefer the 3 position be filled with a 6'8 scoring small forward and have the 4 being a guy in the paint defending and getting rebounds. . painter prefers filling the 3 with a third guard. That creates a lot of height mismatches. I was hoping Catchings or Sisley would come to Purdue and force Painter to change his mind and put a real forward at the three instead of playing his usual small ball.
we actually did have a lot of high level recruits come to Purdue. unfortunately, they played the same position as Loyer and Smith.
I’m sitting here thinking of all careless things on offense as they sped Purdue up and all their bigs uncontested dunks, all their run outs where even when Purdue could set the D they still scored. The lack of offensive help that let them key on Braden, Trey and Fletcher at key times and I’m unsure how it was so close. Caleb shot a right handed jump hook when he was able to get in the lane for a left handed jump hook.
I don't think you've ever liked him a lot. He hit his shots, had 8 pts., 5 assists, and 5 boards. Who you going to put in his place? Harris? Myles? Cox?
It's not about who are you going to put into his place, it's about him being involved and playing the whole game, not just in bursts. Maybe you think 1/2 in a half is just fine, I don't and I bet he doesn't either.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, without Loyer this team loses another five games this season. And his play last year counted a bunch in making the final game. Take time and look at what he does that's not in the stat book.
I have no issues with Berg. Everyone else here bags on him.
earlier in the year it was reported that Burgess was not in basketball shape as the reason why he didn't play more minutes. . They didn't expand on what the real problem was.
Agree. He often keeps his composure much better than Smith and Painter came to him to be a leader on the floor for a reason. Watch those “movies” that the Purdue basketball X account does after big wins. It is often Loyer who is vocal and leading in the huddle and locker room. Remember the clip of him saying he could throw the lob because Braden’s guy was “up in his shit” last year? Loyer gets undervalued way too much.
With Loyer we just lost three in a row.
No man crush. But I do love players who put the team ahead of their own glory. So, as I've asked before, who's going to take his place?
So is it Loyer's fault that we lost those three? That's too easy a scapegoat. Smith's turnovers hurt tonight, the bench players hurt us tonight and most of the season, and was it Loyer's job to defend the lobs and dunks tonight or were most of those on lazy D by TKR
Ffs I didn't say it was solely Loyers fault. I said he played poorly tonight. You're the one who loses his mind at the slightest criticism of Loyer for whatever reason.
Would have been nice to go to portal and get a rim protector.
Give me a break. Every kid who’s played any level of organized basketball knows how to play a basic 2-3 zone. It’s not like it’s some wild concept that only a few teams can do because they spend hours at practice on it. IU plays mostly man to man but threw on a 2-3 at MSU and won.
FWIW, I thought he did fine the few minutes he was in there, but maybe Matt got him out in time? I hate seeing so many scoring in the lane and would prefer to switch less and have more people fighting through screens. People score at will inside and outside and just wonder how many games Purdue would have lost with less worry about the other team's 3 ball and more about giving less easy ones in the lane or causing rotation problems. One time Berg knocked the ball out of a players hands accidently as he just got into it with his chest.TTTJ! That's Twin Towers, TJ!
I can Ballo who doesn't seem particularly skilled, but a physical presence. Not sure how long Bergs endurance would last?
Truthfully, he struggled early having no recent experience...fouls in particular, quickness in another... I think it was more of an evaluation that he had too far to go for how good they had to be in the upcoming schedule and made the move. Last night he played Burgess for a possession or two until a guy drove on the left hand side down the lane for a score and was quickly taken out. Why, we will not know. It was reported that Burgess was in a boot prior to Wisconsin and maybe he tweaked something since he never went in and Berg did...or he missed badly an emphasis...
Well IU has more size at every spot and unless Purdue can turn them over they will get in the lane as they have already shown. They have enough size that they can spread the court a bit and see over for skip passes to Mgbako on the weakside all alone and the screens on the wings still put a height disadvantage when Purdue switches. Can Purdue NOT switch that and still keep the defender on the guy you want? Soften the D on the screener and let the Purdue defender slide through and if the screen dives to the rim, Purdue's defender on him goes with him. Make them beat Purdue from the outside, because we know they can on the inside AND the inside also opens up the outside.
The only way they hung with us at Mackey was Mbako going off and Goode shooting well. Their three point percentage was above their norm against us. I just don’t see them shooting as well this time around. They also don’t really drive the lane the way MSU does. They mostly post up Ballo or have Reneau short roll like TKR.
...and they shot VERY well and I don't expect that again. However, they were able to get inside and when help came lob to Ballo and Purdue was not able to shut that down and so I still have some concerns even if I don't think they shoot was well. Oh, I think Purdue comes out ready, but I expect it to not be easy and would LOVE to be wrong.
