Whats happen with Furst
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Faculty and teaching assistants are unionized in many states. Those universities are perfectly fine with no major issues. I doubt unionizing athletes would be that much of a hassle.
In states where teachers are unionized, salaries tend to be higher, as does job satisfaction. I'd much rather be unionized.
I retired from the trades, Journeyman except foreman and General Foreman made the same wage, however, the slugs/poor workers/absentees got laid off quickly, these days it’s rip and run, contractors won’t put up with poor workmanship.
it's about representation, not demands.
Same as for every union member in the country.
Of course every contract is different. But the context was, does having a Union mean all employees make the same? The answer to that is no.
Doesn’t having a union create a minimum standard salary? Could it be applied so that all players within the union receive a minimum amount of NIL money before others receive their bigger paychecks?
Having a Union just means your contract is collectively bargained. The contents of the contract is all negotiable.
Well if Furst is headed to med school, he closed out today rather nicely!
I’m not saying he’s leaving. But he showed today what he can do in a slightly expanded role.
I’m not saying he’s leaving. But he showed today what he can do in a slightly expanded role.
Totally agree on Berg....I'd give him any minutes Colvin might get.
I have worked in unions, and what you stated is a nice ideal, but not reality.
Your obsession with negativity on Colvin is over the top. Just very strange.
Wrong again. He gets credit today for one good defensive play, his first of the year. Your obsession to protect him leads me to believe you might be a relative.
One of the worst things about unions, is that they're socialist in nature and the bad worker still gets the same benefits as the good worker. Thus, players have no need to work hard.
I don’t believe most posters are negative towards Myles. Contrary, most posters are very knowledgeable and the type of players he gives a lot of minutes to. And they are speculating that because Myles has not been receiving very many minutes that there must be a reason.
Myles is sort of like Furst. Painter seems to like playing Furst at the center position. It’s nothing against Furst, but Edey is going to play 30-35 minutes every game. Furst could be outstanding , but the most playing time he’s going to receive is 5-10 minutes. Furst is sort of like Sven Nader playing behind Bill Walton.
This year Myles is behind Jones, Loyer. And Smith. And those 3 are all going to get 30+ minutes a game.
People speculate the reason Myles does not get more playing time is because of his defense. It may be just because Painter likes the synergy of the other 3 players. Jones will be gone after this year. Maybe Myles starts next year. Maybe it will be Harris. The only thing that is certain is Painter will go with whoever he feels will provide the greatest synergy.
In the building trades those such workers get laid off, all about the bottom line these days, Capitalism to a T. In the trades in Northwest Indiana the poor workers better hope BP has lots of work, that’s where they go, won’t cut it anywhere else.
Furst will return next year and may play alongside TKR throughout the year, if Gillis were to decide he wanted to play maybe he and TKR split minutes at the 5 with Berg the odd man out? I doubt Gillis returns but if he wanted to I’d have a hard time telling him no. Let’s win a National Title and have fun discussing the roster in the offseason!
That's certainly not how it works in unions for professional athletes. They share some benefits (pensions, etc.), but the harder working and more talented players get paid more.
Wrong again, the comment was about Berg playing time and you say give him Colvin's minutes. As if either of them have anything to do with each other. Not even the same position.
I don't "protect" him at all. Just seems weird how you obsess over him. Others have commented on your obsession too. Makes me wonder how much you even watch college basketball. But you have a good day.
You, among others, were screaming for him to play over Loyer....Oh he's so much better so give him a chance. The fact is, he's simply not good enough right now. Hasn't been and won't be the rest of the season though WE both wish he were. It would be great for the team. Hopefully a summer at Purdue will help Myles improve to the point where he's a "threat" to start and play huge minutes.
My posts are simply the facts as they are today. May you have a blessed and prosperous day.
You have me confused with someone else. I have been very clear in my position on Myles:
I feel that early in the season against lesser opponents he didn't play as much as I would have liked to see him play. I don't think that is a crazy position to have taken. Once it became apparent that he wasn't going to get serious minutes, my only complaint was that IF CMP was going to play him (note I said IF) then at least run some stuff for him so we can take advantage of the one thing he does well right now which is shoot the basketball through the hoop. You will find no complaints of me saying he should play over Loyer, I just said if you're going to play him, use him.
You on the other hand, have gone out of your way to bash him and make it sound like the kid can't do anything to help our team. IMO, you have been over the top about it and others have agreed and called you for it. This last one was really crazy saying Berg should get his minutes. Very strange take by you.
Of course in another thread you said IU only needed to win one more game to make the dance, so I guess we should consider the source.
I have not ever bashed Myles. I've simply stated the facts that the kid has no defensive skillset. He's one of those too many HS players who enter college who never had to play defense in HS, but was considered the stud. It's way harder to learn it when you haven't before. And DEFENSE wins games.
As for Berg, I'm looking for good things from him in Zach's absence, and think he needs work.
I did say that about IU. And the simple fact is, those who select like teams who travel well, spend money, and rent rooms. IU is on a current year end roll, and while I hope they don't even make the NIT, my belief is they will...and this is what I said...win a game in the tourney, they're in.
You are the only person that thinks IU wins one game and they are in. There are zero bracket experts that have IU even in the conversation of the dance, little lone getting in with just one more win.
Even if travel party was a criteria, which it is not, you act like IU has some major following that other teams wouldn't have. IU can't even sell out it's own building and tickets can be had for a few dollars recently.
I really don't have an opinion on Berg and just hope he can help us next year. But in no way does his playing, or not playing this season, have anything to do with Myles playing. That is why it was such a strange take, and not your first one about him.
Your many posts saying that he had nothing to offer the team this year, and expressing doubt that he would ever learn defense or contribute in the future, are way closer to "bashing" than any post by others saying he should get more minutes were to "screaming for him to play over Loyer". You are living in delusion.
That's not a fact at all.
If they win exactly one game in the BTT, and are selected for the NCAA tournament, I will send $100 to the charity of your choice.
Gosh…. There’s a lot of big 10 teams on the bubble. I guess the Big 12, sec and acc feel like they have some worthy bubble teams.
I’m kind of pulling for Indiana st. The MVC. Has produced some tough teams in the past. I’d rather see them than an 18-14 Big 10 team. I realize they are probably not as strong as some Big 10 teams. But for the most part, they beat the vast majority of teams on their schedule. That should count for something. To me wins should count more than all these men palm statistical matrixes.
You should reward teams for winning on the court, not based on some really cool algorithm.
I’m kind of pulling for Indiana st. The MVC. Has produced some tough teams in the past. I’d rather see them than an 18-14 Big 10 team. I realize they are probably not as strong as some Big 10 teams. But for the most part, they beat the vast majority of teams on their schedule. That should count for something. To me wins should count more than all these men palm statistical matrixes.
You should reward teams for winning on the court, not based on some really cool algorithm.
I will make it $500.
If they win one game, it will be over either UM or PSU. It's not even a quad 1 win! Just ridiculous take by him.
Indiana has a 3-8 Quad I record, a 5-4 Quad II record, a 4-1 Quad III record, and a 6-0 Quad IV record. The quadrant system is used to identify which teams have more quality wins when it comes to Selection Sunday for the NCAA Tournament. They are 18-13 so far on the year and are now 93 in jet ranking. I am fairly confident that a couple B1G tournament wins won’t raise them up enough in the rankings to get in. Their best win is MS (also 18-13) and the lost twice to PS and lost to Rutgers.
IU will be a NIT team unless they win the tournament which I highly doubt. Ware is playing himself into a top 10-15 first round draft pick though.
Somebody is triggered. Your communist leanings are showing.I come from multiple generations of union workers and have worked in them myself. What you want them to do, they aren't doing.don't bother with facts. Some of these idiots (trumpies) doin't "Do" facts.
LOL - Typical, goes right to Commie calling. So inventively thought too. Let me guess, Trump much?
I’m still leaning on MSU being the time that surprises others and gets a couple of BIG 10 tournament wins and maybe an upset. I also don’t see any blowouts or easy games happening for Purdue.
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