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Like I said in the other thread, if this is true, then Liberty University just outdid Purdue this hiring cycle.
We hire someone who was on the same path of our previous HC and it’s a meh hire? Please.
This is the type of coach we need.
This is the type of coach we need.
If you haven't read up on Helton you probably should. I didn't know much either, but this guys offense is Brohm's on roids.
Had Bailey Zappe throw for almost 6k yards and 62 tds a couple of years ago. Thats in 1 season by the way. Holy shit.
Had Bailey Zappe throw for almost 6k yards and 62 tds a couple of years ago. Thats in 1 season by the way. Holy shit.
Here's a good write up on Ty Helton
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2022 Purdue Football Coaching Search - Tyson Helton — Boiled Sports
The Purdue - Western Kentucky pipeline has never let us down.
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That's not his offense at all. It's Zach Kittley's offense.
First 2 years Helton was at WKU, they passed for 259 yards per game first year and then 165 the 2nd year. He then brought in Kittley from HBU, and Kittley brought his QB (Zappe) and his WRs with him. That's when they averaged 433. When Kittley left to go to Texas Tech, Arbuckle, who followed Kittley from HBU took over at OC.
Kittley learned from Kliff Kingsbury a TT as a GA.
So if you're looking for that style offense, it's a Mike Leach/Air Raid offense.
Brohm runs more of a spread concept with pro style mixed in. Brohm likes a running game to compliment the passing game. Leach has said his idea of a 'balanced offense is 5 receivers gaining a 1k in a season'.
Personally I'd be disappointed with Helton. Purdue is supposed to be in a better place now and can attract a higher caliber coach remember? So why is the rumor that we are getting the WKU coach... again? Only this one is LESS successful than the previous (Brohm)?
Something doesn't add up to me.
Something doesn't add up to me.
I don’t know him—he might be awesome but how disappointing??? We are the BIG, the only P5 opening, just won the West —and essentially the best we can do is what we did after the Hazel dumpster fire??? Why did we hire a firm?
Wash, rinse, repeat. Not impressed.
Wash, rinse, repeat. Not impressed.
I think this is plan C or D from a hiring perspective.
Its not what I would have expected after Bobinski told the players Purdue was taking it to the next level and that we're in a better position for a more experienced hire than we were in 2016.
His ceiling seems pretty similar to Brohm's, which means we're starting over again with someone who hasn't proven they can recruit at a P5 level. It's clearly another Purdue type hire. And indicative that we haven't grown as a program over the past 6 years...
Its not what I would have expected after Bobinski told the players Purdue was taking it to the next level and that we're in a better position for a more experienced hire than we were in 2016.
His ceiling seems pretty similar to Brohm's, which means we're starting over again with someone who hasn't proven they can recruit at a P5 level. It's clearly another Purdue type hire. And indicative that we haven't grown as a program over the past 6 years...
I don't like how Bobinski in one statement said they'd been quietly preparing for this, and than later said they're hiring a search firm. That contradicts the first statement. Was his quiet preparation just that he would hire a search firm when the time came?
Sounding like he hired the Brohm's to do the search.
AD's say a lot of words, and fans believe them. I don't.
BoBo knew brohm was going to leave 2 years ago when he gave him an extention. . every fan knew brohm was going to leave. As an intelligent AD, he had to have already made contacts and had a short list of replacements already identified. this should have been a quick transition. unless his short list were the coaches who signed elsewhere. or unless he already has an agreement with coach who wants to coach his team in a bowl game. or an NFL coach.
watching the players leave, I have to believe our current coaching staff that's left will all leave after the bowl game. they are making very little attempt to keep the players who want to leave.
BoBo knew brohm was going to leave 2 years ago when he gave him an extention. . every fan knew brohm was going to leave. As an intelligent AD, he had to have already made contacts and had a short list of replacements already identified. this should have been a quick transition. unless his short list were the coaches who signed elsewhere. or unless he already has an agreement with coach who wants to coach his team in a bowl game. or an NFL coach.
watching the players leave, I have to believe our current coaching staff that's left will all leave after the bowl game. they are making very little attempt to keep the players who want to leave.
If it's someone you already have an agreement with, you announce it so he can start getting to work. Coach the bowl game if you want to, but he better be putting together a staff and calling recruits. But I don't think he had anything planned except for the 'hire search firm' and wait. Transfers, recruiting, and staffs are all being assembled right now and we are sitting here letting the Louisville's coaching staff 'coach' the players and take our recruits. Bobinski better act fast.
admittedly, it doesn't look good at the moment. this is Bobo's big opportunity to define his career. Does he hire somebody to build on what brohm created? or do we go back to square one?
We're seeing recruits decommit. Very shortly, we could see current players entering the portal.
this could get ugly if we don't take swift action. On the other hand, we don't want the second coming of hazell. this is why I say it just seemed logical that Bobo had to know this day was coming, and he should have prepared for it. we all knew this day was coming. we all expected it was going to be a couple of years ago. Bobo had plenty of tme to prepare.
We're seeing recruits decommit. Very shortly, we could see current players entering the portal.
this could get ugly if we don't take swift action. On the other hand, we don't want the second coming of hazell. this is why I say it just seemed logical that Bobo had to know this day was coming, and he should have prepared for it. we all knew this day was coming. we all expected it was going to be a couple of years ago. Bobo had plenty of tme to prepare.
I guess…
Monken wouldn’t take the job officially for another month. With recruiting…we can’t have that
DeBoer has a massive buyout and seems like he’s not even interested.
Garret Riley would Likely want to see things out at TCU. Another coach who couldn’t show up for a month.
Leonhard’s identity goes against everything that’s made a Purdue coach successful here. I’ve never really actually been interested in him.
So…who does that really leave candidate wise for the job?
A 4-8 Matt Campbell?
NC State fans would be glad for us to take Doeren off their hands.
NC State fans would be glad for us to take Doeren off their hands.
I believe one of the major roles of search firms now is to dig up any skeletons in the closet. It's entirely plausible that Bobkinski comes up with his list of top candidates and then involves the search firm to make sure there are no red flags. They also sometimes act as middlemen before the real negotiations as coaches/agents like to deny having contact with schools, and vice versa, until the deal is announced---maybe a stupid distinction and dance, but you don't want to do anything unprofessional that might run off a candidate you like.
We keep hearing this job is in a better place. The B1G is backing up the brinks truck. Yet we are supposed to be happy with a hire in the exact same position as the last hire? Who lost to two awful IU teams, including once at home? Maybe Helton is the truth, and if he is hired I’ll support him, but this would not be something to excite me. I would think our money and program could get us a Big 12 or ACC coach who is not at the power programs.
The source was Tom D, when commenting on a rumor that Shephard would take over at WKU if Helton left for another job, "and you know what job that would be."
That's a very solid point. Reading that reminded me of ND and George O'Leary hiring, when O'Leary lied on his resume and it was discovered a few days after. Maybe that's the search firm's responsibility now, find all dirt/lies/inaccuracies before we go forward.
agreed. This would not get many fans, players, recruits or portal guys excited. There'd be a lot of "Who?"
Look for any history of domestic disturbances, or calling escorts with university cell phones…
