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So, what happens now in Bloomington
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Sources: Cal transfer QB Mendoza picks Indiana
Cal transfer quarterback Fernando Mendoza has committed to Indiana, sources told ESPN.
At Maryland will be tough. It was one of the closer games in Bloomington this year and big ten road wins are hard to come by. Maryland looks improved doing very good in the transfer portal and many starters returning. And I know indiana won’t want to hear this or will probably argue, but hemby was losing his starting spot to freshman ray so Maryland has the edge on indiana there.
Also just looking at wisconsin I would say that is a game indiana could lose. They seemed to upgrade at a lot of positions already.
Illinois is a pretty tough game for IU too.
Projecting 8-10 wins for any B1G team that’s not OSU is shaky territory.
IU sos was 57 before the ND game which is about right in the middle of of total D-1 teams
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I'd say there are 10 winnable games on the schedule in eyes. I said the same about this year as well and we won all 10 plus Michigan. Next year I don't see us beating Penn State or Oregon and that's perfectly fine with me. Iowa is a who knows because you never know what Iowa will be year to year. I think Illinois is the 3rd best on the schedule and that'll be a really tough game. Maryland could be tough but their coach sucks. Wisconsin is a mystery as well. I think saying 7-10 wins is realistic.
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Wisconsin upgraded at QB and has the highest portal ranking in the big ten. 7-10 is fair given there are 3 gimmies in non-con. But I think they are just as likely to win 5 games as 10. Remember 2021? You lose the young offensive mind after an old coach gets lucky on an easy schedule the prior year… and went 0-9 in big ten.
True, a slide is possible but it’s kinda apples and oranges to the Allen era.
The only assistant leaving is the qb coach—Nine out of ten assistants return including both coordinators, and all three 1st team all-conference players return and lots of other starters. And unlike Allen, Cig has a long proven track record of success as a head coach.
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He does have a a record of success as a P5/P2 head coach. And it’s not the number of coaches retained it’s the impact. Sunseri was iu’s qb whisperer and rourke credited him with his improvement. He’s the young rising coach who is now a full OC. Sound familiar? This is exactly what happened with DeBoer…
Except Sunseri was replaced with a good one. DeBoer got replaced and Indiana had the COVID year without him. Then it went downhill as Womack also left as DC and went to be the HC at South Alabama. Allen then hired a god awful DC from Georgia and then Walt Bell the season after.
DeBoer was the offensive coordinator, not an assistant.
I’m not doubting that Tino is a good qb coach, but he has only been with Cig for three years; Shannan has been with him for nine years and they’ve had all-conference QBs multiple times before Tino.
To think that Mendoza will be a significant step back from Rourke isn’t realistic; both starting WRs are back four of five linemen that were starters at the beginning of last year are back, they finally have pass catching RBs, and Mendoza was really proven and accurate in the ACC.
The schedule is way way tougher, but everything else lines up.
Mendoza is a talented QB but won’t be on any preseason all conference lists. He was rated lower than even Hudson card last year on some lists The strong offense last year was led by him, its a huge loss. Are you suggesting cooper is your 2nd best WR? I’m not an iu fan but even I know better than that. Where was he in the championship game? Never had more than 4 catches in a game. He made a lot of big plays but that was more rourke.
How do you have 4 returning OL? Katic, Wedig, and Stephens are out of eligibility.
Mendoza has some talent. Not sure what kind of talent or coaching was at Cal though. He still threw for 3000 yards. As for WR, Indiana kinda did it by committee outside of Sarratt who was the only real star. Same goes for RB. OLine is what needs bolstered the absolute most. Need some big boys to protect and open up the running holes. OLine was okayish.
OLine definitely needs more-currently counting on two guys that ended the year injured. Carter Smith, Nick Kidwell, Drew Evans, Bray Lynch return, but Evans and Kidwell need to get healthy.
To me KeyShawn Williams was the second best wr; they need a slot guy. But they also just picked the star wr from App St. Him, Sarrat, and Cooper are a great outside group.
To me KeyShawn Williams was the second best wr; they need a slot guy. But they also just picked the star wr from App St. Him, Sarrat, and Cooper are a great outside group.
Yet another clown pants wearing loosier seeking approval on a Purdue forum.
Can't you and the others find a loosier forum where you can engage in continual approval and self-approval among yourselves?
You were including Kidwell? The guy who hasn’t played since like September 2023 due to injuries?
Indiana does have a good OLine coach and I don’t expect they will suffer much of a drop. But like Rourke they made a pedestrian RB room and mediocre WRs look really good last year. Indiana scored 3 offensive TDs excluding garbage time in the 3 games they played against teams with winning records and much of that was Rourkes precision. Could be a mediocre offensive next year like Californias was with Mendoza.
Completely fair in that it's the biggest question mark position group for the upcoming year.
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Not nearly as much as obsessing and spending your entire day on an rivals forum basically begging for their approval.
Who gives a shit about IU. They paid their coach and now he can coast into retirement. Enjoy your one season of zero memorable wins. Zero trophies and nothing to show for it.
IU was fleeced and it will show itself soon.
Save this post. 2 years from now purdue will be stomping on IU and they will be looking to take ole cign to pasture.
IU was fleeced and it will show itself soon.
Save this post. 2 years from now purdue will be stomping on IU and they will be looking to take ole cign to pasture.
I do think they will be a good team in 2025 but I would put set O/U at 8 wins.
I think in 2026 reality will start to set in when they have to play OSU and USC at home and get to the 6-7 win mark again, but probably better than Purdue.
I would circle 2027 as the oh crap moment for indiana. They have 6 losable road games plus Michigan and PSU at home. All of the JMU transfers plus Mendoza will have phased out and indiana will be counting on recruiting and portal for which indiana is currently 13-15th in big ten in recruiting and 10th in transfer portal in big ten.
100% -- recruiting is going to have to rise program-wide to sustain. The resources are there for top tier recruiting in the NIL era.
It's an interesting organizational model; instead of trying to build from the bottom up, IU is trying to burn brightly with portal acquisitions and use that as leverage to increase the donations, recruiting budget, facilities, and program profile. Given how absolutely awful IU football has been historically, it seems like this is the only model that has a chance.
But it's only workable if the staff puts kids in the NFL. The level of portal talent isn't all that high - they've grabbed small school production over ranking and potential. But pretty soon IU will need a bunch of in-house kids to win jobs on the field.
I wish I wasn't still banned from the toilet the IU fans call a forum. Must be slow over there to justify posting here for our approval.
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Maybe less amusing if I re-phrase it as "IU is trying to
I don’t see how this is sustainable. Rosters are going to be 105 students and I think it is safe to assume you will need 30 new players each year between the portal and high school kids. Indiana has 8 portal commits right now, 2 are special teams, so 6 guys to backfill about 20 openings on the 2 deeps. You HAVE to develop your high school kids and then you can supplement with transfers. Exceptions would be first year or maybe two when you get a new coach and he brings the system and culture with them. I do think indiana can be a 4-8 win team with their strategy depending on how many cupcakes they schedule. But I don’t see any recruits they have that have a good chance of being all conference type players. I’m not saying they can’t but the laws of averages will play out and indiana will settle into a below average big ten team if they do not prioritize developing high school kids.
Contrary to what some at IU have recently stated, Indiana is not a prime state for high school football. And with ND, UM, and Ohio State on the doorstep, it is that much harder to keep the top local kids at either Purdue or IU.
So it's gonna be really difficult to sustain.
The "proven-successful portal gets from smaller schools" strategy may be the best path to fairly consistent respectability. A consistent top 25 program? That's a tall order without talented high school kids, and that level of high school recruiting has not happened yet; may not ever happen. If it did that would be really impressive, but any IU (or Purdue) football fan that wouldn't be damn happy with 6 to 9 wins per year from any method is fooling themselves.
So you will be happy with 3 wins after the usual 3 pre-btn cupcakes?
I doubt that, katjm23.
Happy? Not for next year after the past year. But if six wins or more annually is the program floor for the 135 year train wreck known as IU Football? That would be great.
