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Perry, Harris, and Forsythe class of 2024

Agree with a lot here except for Booker and Flory. Purdue needs the guards and dynamic wing play like you’d said more than Flory and Booker.

As much as it would have been great to have either one of them, there was no room for Booker this year, unless someone in the front court left and I’d say the same even for Flory next year. And more than likely both those guys are one and dones based on “potential” alone. So if they did come then we’d have lost one of or a combo of TKR, Furst, Berg, and probably no Burgess for next year.
Flory would have certainly played significant minutes next year with Zach and Mason leaving. Agree with you on Booker, no idea where his minutes would have come from.
 
I really think that with Berg and Burgess in the mix, Purdue is in good shape at the 5 for through the ‘24 class.

I’m just hoping for Harris or Perry to round out the class. Either would be a great addition and would fill a need, replacing Jones. I suppose that getting both is possible, but it seems unlikely.
 
I really think that with Berg and Burgess in the mix, Purdue is in good shape at the 5 for through the ‘24 class.
Certainly hope so or they’ll be looking in the portal in a couple of years. Would think that bigs will need to be a priority in the next class.
 
Agree with a lot here except for Booker and Flory. Purdue needs the guards and dynamic wing play like you’d said more than Flory and Booker.

As much as it would have been great to have either one of them, there was no room for Booker this year, unless someone in the front court left and I’d say the same even for Flory next year. And more than likely both those guys are one and dones based on “potential” alone. So if they did come then we’d have lost one of or a combo of TKR, Furst, Berg, and probably no Burgess for next year.
@collegehoopsfan123 What exactly is a dynamic guard or wing? Are they better than good...exceptional 1,2 and 3s...lottery picks? Athletes and less skilled or more skilled and less athletic in the exceptional category? productive or potential to be productive. Perhaps a compare and contrast of Purdue player's will allow a clearer picture?
 
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@collegehoopsfan123 What exactly is a dynamic guard or wing? Are they better than good...exceptional 1,2 and 3s...lottery picks? Athletes and less skilled or more skilled and less athletic in the exceptional category? productive or potential to be productive. Perhaps a compare and contrast of Purdue player's will allow a clearer picture?
I’d say more athletic wings and guards…NOT Morton basically haha. Someone with more bounce and quickness. Prob a kid who can go and get his own shot off the dribble or take it coast to coast.

That’s how I took it.
 
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Flory would have certainly played significant minutes next year with Zach and Mason leaving. Agree with you on Booker, no idea where his minutes would have come from.
Absolutely he would. Don’t get me wrong, having Flory would have been electric for that one year.
But then I’d assume we lose one of Furst, TKR or Berg (I’d assume one would transfer due to playing time) and maybe don’t get Burgess since there’d be limited minutes in the front court. Then flory leaves after one year and now you’re back to needing multiple bigs and playing the one and done carousel or transfer portal…which can be very tough and would see inconsistency. Look no further than down south to see how that’s been playing out for the last 20 years.
 
Should be a good add…may provide a spark off the bench to start the season and then start by end of year and be the athletic 4 man. Wonder if he will get to matchup against Zach at all haha
I haven't seen him play much other than some film but the lack of production relative to size, length, athleticism and skill is head scratching. Maybe just being a guy who can run the floor, rebound, block some shots and maybe hit some open shots plays better to his mindset than having to be a go to guy.

Would be surprised if he's a 4 in year one but could displace Sissoko as a stretch 5 by the end of the year.
 
Marvin? You mean Marcus….lol.

If Booker is a project, that says a lot about the rating services that we’re saying he was #1 for his class at one point.
IMO they rank on measurables more than they do on production. I suspect Booker will be fine for MSU but if he's an major impact player there it will be the first time that he's been so at any level. Guy will more than likely make tens of millions based on length, athleticism and skill but doesn't look to me to be an impact college player at this point. Then again I'm wrong many times every day.
 
@collegehoopsfan123 What exactly is a dynamic guard or wing? Are they better than good...exceptional 1,2 and 3s...lottery picks? Athletes and less skilled or more skilled and less athletic in the exceptional category? productive or potential to be productive. Perhaps a compare and contrast of Purdue player's will allow a clearer picture?
A dynamic guard/wing is someone like Carsen Edwards who can do it all.
Purdue needs 2 or 3 on the same team to get back to the FF.

Colvin and Catchings look the part. Loyer and Lance Jones might be others.
We need to get Harris this fall. Team athleticism needs to continue
improving. Go Boilers!
 
I’d say more athletic wings and guards…NOT Morton basically haha. Someone with more bounce and quickness. Prob a kid who can go and get his own shot off the dribble or take it coast to coast.

That’s how I took it.
Ok, and "those guys" (gross generalization) are NOT the drop dead spot up shooters that every team ALSO desires. For as much as we all love to see guys like Colvin, you need a Loyer just as much.
Guys here are in LOVE with "get his own shot" and of course we all see why, but you still need a Loyer.....

I have hopes as Myles "looks" the REAL deal of being able to get his own shot AND be a 50% jump shooter.
That's NBA baby.
 
I have hopes as Myles "looks" the REAL deal of being able to get his own shot AND be a 50% jump shooter.
That's NBA baby.
Completely agree. When Painter calls Colvin the best player in and Indiana class that includes a top 15 prospect in Booker that's exactly the reason.

When we have 'shooters' that don't shoot well it's easy for us as fans to clamor for better athletes and understandably so, but this year's team will again have a bunch of open looks and if they can shoot it in the high 30's from three this may be the best offense in the country.

To your point, I'm all for great athletes who are long and can shoot it at a high rate, but that means that our recruiting needs to improve because those are NBA guys.
 
Completely agree. When Painter calls Colvin the best player in and Indiana class that includes a top 15 prospect in Booker that's exactly the reason.

When we have 'shooters' that don't shoot well it's easy for us as fans to clamor for better athletes and understandably so, but this year's team will again have a bunch of open looks and if they can shoot it in the high 30's from three this may be the best offense in the country.

To your point, I'm all for great athletes who are long and can shoot it at a high rate, but that means that our recruiting needs to improve because those are NBA guys.
For sure. High 30s would be great from 3, but I would even say if we shoot it at 34%+ from 3 we will be very tough to beat. The team was something like 19-1 last year when that happened. And when they didn’t…we’ll we know the rest haha
 
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For sure. High 30s would be great from 3, but I would even say if we shoot it at 34%+ from 3 we will be very tough to beat. The team was something like 19-1 last year when that happened. And when they didn’t…we’ll we know the rest haha
This is especially true if Purdue can consistently rebound close to 40% of the misses on the 34%+ three point shooting.
 
Ok, and "those guys" (gross generalization) are NOT the drop dead spot up shooters that every team ALSO desires. For as much as we all love to see guys like Colvin, you need a Loyer just as much.
Guys here are in LOVE with "get his own shot" and of course we all see why, but you still need a Loyer.....

I have hopes as Myles "looks" the REAL deal of being able to get his own shot AND be a 50% jump shooter.
That's NBA baby.
This. There is a difference between get his own shots and hit his shots.
 
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For sure. High 30s would be great from 3, but I would even say if we shoot it at 34%+ from 3 we will be very tough to beat. The team was something like 19-1 last year when that happened. And when they didn’t…we’ll we know the rest haha
Agree that part of the problem last year was consistency, i.e. not only did the team only shoot 32% from three for the season, they had 13 games where they shot 28% or worse (often signficantly worse) from three.

I picked the high 30's because you're likely to have some lights out games that bring up your average so I think you'll probably need to shoot 37% or 38% in aggregate if your worst games are in the low 30's, but agree with your point that it's really those worst shooting games that are the problem.
 
This. There is a difference between get his own shots and hit his shots.
yes, and Loyer is a guy that is needed (I am confident he will be able to get separation off a screen or a dribble and be able to get his shot off. He can also take it to the hole and hopefully that gets improved upon as well)…but just not guys like Morton who don’t really do much for the team while playing. Doesn’t shoot it well, doesn’t look to shoot, (going to be unpopular here) doesn’t defend any better than an average defender, and seems like he does not want the ball in his hands as he usually gets rid of it quickly. He has no confidence on the offensive end and that doesn’t give the team a high chance to win in March.
 
guys like Morton who don’t really do much for the team while playing
The statement above doesn't upset me but I couldn't disagree with it more.

Ethan will play less this year if he doesn't shoot it better but his offensive limitations only come through when guys who are supposed to be shooters can't hit anything. It's not fantasy league basketball where you add up the stats of individual players, glue guys are a real thing and there's a reason that Purdue was the best offense in the country when guys were hitting shots.
 
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The statement above doesn't upset me but I couldn't disagree with it more.

Ethan will play less this year if he doesn't shoot it better but his offensive limitations only come through when guys who are supposed to be shooters can't hit anything. It's not fantasy league basketball where you add up the stats of individual players, glue guys are a real thing and there's a reason that Purdue was the best offense in the country when guys were hitting shots.
So, if I am a coach this year, I tell my defender to back off Morton 6 feet whenever he has the ball to help on edey. I would dare him to shoot (just like FDU did) and if he makes 3 in a row, I’d tell my defender to now give him 4 feet and still double edey. If he makes another 3 in a row, I would then have my defender guard him….but he ain’t making 6 in a row. And if by some act he does, I definitely could live with that’s why I lost to Purdue—but I’d take my chances on letting him have space and shoot.

There will be stretches and probably a few games where shooters can’t hit anything, much like the FDU game and IU game, and we will need to rely on someone other than edey to hit shots.

I hope I’m completely wrong and that won’t be the case this year. But after 3 years, Morton is who he is. I bet hea a great kid and sure, you can call him a “glue guy”…but if he plays more than 15 min a game and displays the same skills as last year, we will have a tough time advancing in March (again hope I’m completely wrong and I will own it!)
 
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So, if I am a coach this year, I tell my defender to back off Morton 6 feet whenever he has the ball to help on edey. I would dare him to shoot (just like FDU did) and if he makes 3 in a row, I’d tell my defender to now give him 4 feet and still double edey. If he makes another 3 in a row, I would then have my defender guard him….but he ain’t making 6 in a row. And if by some act he does, I definitely could live with that’s why I lost to Purdue—but I’d take my chances on letting him have space and shoot.

There will be stretches and probably a few games where shooters can’t hit anything, much like the FDU game and IU game, and we will need to rely on someone other than edey to hit shots.

I hope I’m completely wrong and that won’t be the case this year. But after 3 years, Morton is who he is. I bet hea a great kid and sure, you can call him a “glue guy”…but if he plays more than 15 min a game and displays the same skills as last year, we will have a tough time advancing in March (again hope I’m completely wrong and I will own it!)
I don’t know how to reply without sounding like a condescending jerk or making some smartass remark so I’ll just say that we disagree.
 
So, if I am a coach this year, I tell my defender to back off Morton 6 feet whenever he has the ball to help on edey. I would dare him to shoot (just like FDU did) and if he makes 3 in a row, I’d tell my defender to now give him 4 feet and still double edey. If he makes another 3 in a row, I would then have my defender guard him….but he ain’t making 6 in a row. And if by some act he does, I definitely could live with that’s why I lost to Purdue—but I’d take my chances on letting him have space and shoot.

There will be stretches and probably a few games where shooters can’t hit anything, much like the FDU game and IU game, and we will need to rely on someone other than edey to hit shots.

I hope I’m completely wrong and that won’t be the case this year. But after 3 years, Morton is who he is. I bet hea a great kid and sure, you can call him a “glue guy”…but if he plays more than 15 min a game and displays the same skills as last year, we will have a tough time advancing in March (again hope I’m completely wrong and I will own it!)
If I’m Painter and I want to change the perception of style, the first open layup Morton turns down I yank him. The second time he turns down an open layup, I’m changing the locks on his dorm room and his bags will be packed waiting for him.

That’s my 2 cents.
 
So, if I am a coach this year, I tell my defender to back off Morton 6 feet whenever he has the ball to help on edey. I would dare him to shoot (just like FDU did) and if he makes 3 in a row, I’d tell my defender to now give him 4 feet and still double edey. If he makes another 3 in a row, I would then have my defender guard him….but he ain’t making 6 in a row. And if by some act he does, I definitely could live with that’s why I lost to Purdue—but I’d take my chances on letting him have space and shoot.

There will be stretches and probably a few games where shooters can’t hit anything, much like the FDU game and IU game, and we will need to rely on someone other than edey to hit shots.

I hope I’m completely wrong and that won’t be the case this year. But after 3 years, Morton is who he is. I bet hea a great kid and sure, you can call him a “glue guy”…but if he plays more than 15 min a game and displays the same skills as last year, we will have a tough time advancing in March (again hope I’m completely wrong and I will own it!)
Completely agree. Would love it if Morton finally turns into a shooter in year 4… but will have to see it to believe it.
 
If I’m Painter and I want to change the perception of style, the first open layup Morton turns down I yank him. The second time he turns down an open layup, I’m changing the locks on his dorm room and his bags will be packed waiting for him.

That’s my 2 cents.
NOW WE’RE TALKIN
 
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