Best of the Best … Joe Barry leads Zach on Purdue’s all-time lists at 123 games apiece

[Born Boiler]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

 

[boilerzz]

That would make sense if Zach Edey had Neil Bemenderfer and not Trevion Williams to compete for minutes against his first two seasons..

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Yeah but none of those top guys came to Purdue ranked 400+ barely being able to catch a ball. Zach went from from dog house to big dog in 3 years right before our eyes. I'm not worried where he stands all time. There's something different about a kid nobody wanted. Those guys had their day. It's this team's turn.

 

[northside100]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

It would interesting to see the numbers that those players put up in their last 58 games versus Zach's junior and senior stats. Zach will be remembered and honored for what he's done the last two years, not for the fact that he came in as a rough prospect that split time with a borderline AA for two years.

 

[qazplm]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

I'd put it Robinson, Mount, Wooden, JBC and then Edey (IF Edey gets to a final four), if we fall short again then an argument can be made for Dischinger but I don't think Schellhase. Now the other caveat, if Edey wins a national title then I don't see how you don't elevate him to IMO co no 1 with Big Dog. This is about college achievements to me, not about how they did in the NBA or coaching a completely different team.

Robinson, Mount, Wooden and JBC have both the stats and the tourney accomplishments to say fairly they are ahead of Edey. But all it would take for me would be a NC to shoot Edey to the top or at least near the top.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I'd put it Robinson, Mount, Wooden, JBC and then Edey (IF Edey gets to a final four), if we fall short again then an argument can be made for Dischinger but I don't think Schellhase. Now the other caveat, if Edey wins a national title then I don't see how you don't elevate him to IMO co no 1 with Big Dog. This is about college achievements to me, not about how they did in the NBA or coaching a completely different team.

Robinson, Mount, Wooden and JBC have both the stats and the tourney accomplishments to say fairly they are ahead of Edey. But all it would take for me would be a NC to shoot Edey to the top or at least near the top.

Yep, we should table this until April.

 

[Boiler Buck]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

Loved the breakdown. Nice work. Different eras, and teams are tough to make straight up comparisons though. Edey's not done yet. So the jury is still out on that too.

 

[tjreese]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

Next home game is Dave Schellhase bobble head game He said it didn't look like him...more cartoon character appearance.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

For those considering Purdue’s best-ever players, note that Zach Edey’s career averages (and totals) to date trail Joe Barry Carroll’s after playing in the exact same number of games -- 123 -- including Carroll’s senior run to third place in the NCAA Final Four.

Purdue Career Scoring Average
Rank Player GP Pts. Avg. Years
1. Rick Mount 72 2,323 32.3 1968-70
2. Dave Schellhase 72 2,074 28.8 1964-66
3. Terry Dischinger 70 1,979 28.3 1960-62
4. Glenn Robinson 62 1,706 27.5 1993-94
5. John Garrett 82 1,620 19.8 1973-75
6. Carl Landry 64 1,175 18.4 2005-07
7. Carsen Edwards 108 1,920 17.8 2017-19
8. Joe Barry Carroll 123 2,175 17.7 1977-80
9. Mel Garland 71 1,243 17.5 1962-64
10. Bob Ford 73 1,244 17.0 1970-72
11. Zach Edey 123 2,091 17.0 2020-24

Purdue Career Rebounding Average
Rank Player GP Reb. Avg. Years
1. Terry Dischinger 70 958 13.7 1960-62
2. Caleb Swanigan 69 718 10.4 2016-17
3. Don Beck 57 586 10.3 1953-55
4. Dave Schellhase 72 721 10.0 1964-66
5. William Franklin 64 630 9.8 1970-72
6. Glenn Robinson 62 602 9.7 1993-94
7. Joe Barry Carroll 123 1,148 9.3 1977-80
8. Zach Edey 123 1,128 9.2 2020-24
9. Herman Gilliam 70 636 9.1 1967-69
10. John Garrett 82 738 9.0 1973-75
11. Bob Ford 73 648 8.9 1970-72

So, don’t forget the four Boilermakers who still stand in the Big Ten’s all-time top five for career scoring average. Or those who led Purdue to its best finishes in the NCAA. Or both Boilermakers whose play led them to be the NBA’s overall No. 1 draft pick.

And never forget the Boilermaker whose name is always on the national player of the year award.

Thus, Purdue’s all-time best, based on career performance, team results, accolades and pro value …

1. John Wooden -- Three-time consensus All-American player led Purdue to two Big Ten championships and its only men’s national championship, the only recognized national title of the time. Later recruited and coached 10 NCAA championship teams in 12 years, finishing unbeaten four times. The national Player of the Year trophy is named for him.
2. Rick Mount -- Three-time All-American averaged 32.3 points per game for his 73 games, still the No. 1 career scoring average in Big Ten history, and led Purdue to its first Big Ten championship in 29 years and its only advancement to the NCAA Tournament championship game, losing to Wooden’s UCLA Bruins. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick, all as a marked man, after being the first high school player ever featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
3. Glenn Robinson -- All-American averaged 27.5 points and 9.7 rebounds in his 62 games, still No. 5 in career scoring average in Big Ten history, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Tournament’s Elite Eight and was selected as the consensus national player of the year and the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 20.7 points in 11 years in the NBA.
4. Joe Barry Carroll -- All-American averaged 17.7 points and 9.3 rebounds in his 123 games, led Purdue to the Big Ten championship and third place in the NCAA Tournament’s Final Four and was the overall No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 17.7 points in 10 years in the NBA.
5. Terry Dischinger -- Three-time All-American averaged 28.3 points and 13.7 rebounds in his 70 games, still the No. 3 career scoring average in Big Ten history and the No. 6 career rebounding average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team selection and was the overall No. 8 pick in the NBA Draft. Averaged 13.8 points in nine years in the NBA.
6. Dave Schellhase -- Two-time All-American averaged 28.8 points and 10.0 rebounds in his 72 games, still the No. 2 career scoring average in Big Ten history. Also was a three-time All-Big Ten first team pick and was the overall No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft, playing parts of two seasons.
7. Zach Edey -- All-American averaging 17.0 points and 9.2 rebounds for his first 123 games, ranking No. 10 in Purdue career scoring average, No. 57 in Big Ten history, and No. 9 in Purdue career rebounding average, also led Purdue to a Big Ten championship with another in the works and was the consensus national player of the year, with another Wooden trophy in line.

Honorable Mention -- Stretch Murphy, Paul Hoffman, Herm Gilliam, Jaden Ivey, Billy Keller, Carsen Edwards, Carl Landry, Brad Miller, Brian Cardinal, E’Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, Stephen Scheffler, Russell Cross, Walter Jordan, Caleb Swanigan, John Garrett, Frank Kendrick, Jerry Sichting, Jimmy Oliver, Jim Rowinski, Mel Garland, William Franklin, Elmer Oliphant, Dave Charters, Jewell Young, Willie Merriweather, Carl McNulty, Larry Teeple, George Spradling, Norm Cotton, Bob Kessler, Bob Ford, Joe Sexson, Lamar Lundy, Cuonzo Martin, Robbie Hummel, Keith Edmunson, Bruce Parkinson, Eugene Parker, Everette Stephens, Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell, Trevion Williams, Chad Austin, Don White, Ray Miller, Emmett Lowery, Fred Beretta, Willie Deane, A.J. Hammons, Isaac Haas, Don Beck, Melvin McCants, Vince Edwards, Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell, Woody Austin, David Teague, Downtown Kenny Lowe … and Tacos.

I’m not a fan of comparing stats across eras. The defense played in the 1960’s, from what I’ve seen in some videos, was very different than the defense that is played today.

If you are going to compare players with Edey across eras, I would start with asking who has won a national player of the year trophy. Edey will have two soon. I think that Robinson was better than Edey and the others I can’t really speak to because I didn’t watch them play in college, but I’d be surprised if Edey wasn’t deserving of a top 3 ranking based on soon being a two time national player of the year.

 

[tjreese]

I’m not a fan of comparing stats across eras. The defense played in the 1960’s, from what I’ve seen in some videos, was very different than the defense that is played today.

If you are going to compare players with Edey across eras, I would start with asking who has won a national player of the year trophy. Edey will have two soon. I think that Robinson was better than Edey and the others I can’t really speak to because I didn’t watch them play in college, but I’d be surprised if Edey wasn’t deserving of a top 3 ranking based on soon being a two time national player of the year.

I'm not a fan of comparing stats across eras either. Zach is great and is one of the all time best whether voted two time national player of the year or not, but he will be. That said the 3 ball helps a center where in different eras it would have been very physical and little spacing and so the 3 ball helps the low post player. The shot clock hurts the low post player. A longer clock allows patience to get the best shot you want and not have the clock playing D on you. It is just different and hard to compare different eras

 

[Nappanee]

Yeah but none of those top guys came to Purdue ranked 400+ barely being able to catch a ball. Zach went from from dog house to big dog in 3 years right before our eyes. I'm not worried where he stands all time. There's something different about a kid nobody wanted. Those guys had their day. It's this team's turn.

Zach was never in the 'dog house.' He scored in double figures in five of his first six games as a freshman and played at least 10 minutes in all but four games his freshman season. If you watch the first few minutes of his first game, (Zach subbed in for Trevion at the 15:37 mark in the first half) you see almost right away that he can catch. Don't miss the rebound off the Ivey missed free throw at 14:01 game time!

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Zach was never in the 'dog house.' He scored in double figures in five of his first six games as a freshman and played at least 10 minutes in all but four games his freshman season. If you watch the first few minutes of his first game, (Zach subbed in for Trevion at the 15:37 mark in the first half) you see almost right away that he can catch. Don't miss the rebound off the Ivey missed free throw at 14:01 game time!

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Yeah I know. I was in the game thread.
Post in thread 'Liberty v. Purdue Game Thread' https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/liberty-v-purdue-game-thread.200795/post-2788303 I just meant no one cared about him coming out of high school. Not literally in Painter's dog house.

 

[Born Boiler]

That would make sense if Zach Edey had Neil Bemenderfer and not Trevion Williams to compete for minutes against his first two seasons..

Neil was fun -- once a friend said “Hey, aren’t you Neil Bemenderfer?” and he said “Bless you” -- but try again. Despite everyone always clamoring to see our 7-foot Rocky Mountain High from Denver, Fred Schaus “eased in” Joe Barry as a freshman, alternating him at center with a four-year veteran and second-year starter, 6-11 Tom Scheffler, who then shot 53 percent from the field, 76 percent on free throws, averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds, played a year in the NBA and laid the Michigan family pipeline for his “little brother,” 6-9 Stephen Scheffler, who became a Big Ten Player of the Year here. Carroll as a frosh averaged only 7.9 points and 7.4 rebounds. As a sophomore, he started but usually deferred to three fourth-year starters -- Walter Jordan, Wayne Walls and Eugene Parker -- and pro Jerry Sichting. That team could beat anyone but went flat on the road.

Side note … I visited Joe Barry and Moses Malone just after they first played each other in the Houston Summit, which years later became the Lakewood Church, now in the news due to the wrong kind of shooting.

 

[Born Boiler]

Yeah but none of those top guys came to Purdue ranked 400+ barely being able to catch a ball. Zach went from from dog house to big dog in 3 years right before our eyes. I'm not worried where he stands all time. There's something different about a kid nobody wanted. Those guys had their day. It's this team's turn.

It’s showing that Purdue has many players who’ve been extra special. Otherwise Purdue wouldn’t lead the Big Ten in conference championships and hold all-time winning records over each and every program in Big Ten history -- a feat no one else can ever match -- while posting four of the top five career scoring averages in Big Ten history.

Purdue founded the Big Ten and owns it, too.

 

[Born Boiler]

I'd put it Robinson, Mount, Wooden, JBC and then Edey (IF Edey gets to a final four), if we fall short again then an argument can be made for Dischinger but I don't think Schellhase. Now the other caveat, if Edey wins a national title then I don't see how you don't elevate him to IMO co no 1 with Big Dog. This is about college achievements to me, not about how they did in the NBA or coaching a completely different team.

Robinson, Mount, Wooden and JBC have both the stats and the tourney accomplishments to say fairly they are ahead of Edey. But all it would take for me would be a NC to shoot Edey to the top or at least near the top.

I’ll drink to that.

What a nice starting lineup that would be. Just roll the ball out and watch.

 

[Born Boiler]

Yep, we should table this until April.

Well, I sure thought we’d see more seconds for Tacos.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Well, I sure thought we’d see more seconds for Tacos.

Haha I forgot about that. Good ole BBG…

 

[Born Boiler]

Yeah I know. I was in the game thread.
Post in thread 'Liberty v. Purdue Game Thread' https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/liberty-v-purdue-game-thread.200795/post-2788303 I just meant no one cared about him coming out of high school. Not literally in Painter's dog house.

The Big Dog’s House. The House The Rocket Built. Joe Barry’s Playhouse. The Zach Shack.

And, with the doc’s bobblehead night, The Schell House, where we can truly take a knee.

 

[Born Boiler]

I’m not a fan of comparing stats across eras. The defense played in the 1960’s, from what I’ve seen in some videos, was very different than the defense that is played today.

If you are going to compare players with Edey across eras, I would start with asking who has won a national player of the year trophy. Edey will have two soon. I think that Robinson was better than Edey and the others I can’t really speak to because I didn’t watch them play in college, but I’d be surprised if Edey wasn’t deserving of a top 3 ranking based on soon being a two time national player of the year.

It’s fun just listing all the names.

 

[idaho_bob]

It would interesting to see the numbers that those players put up in their last 58 games versus Zach's junior and senior stats. Zach will be remembered and honored for what he's done the last two years, not for the fact that he came in as a rough prospect that split time with a borderline AA for two years.

I think it would be interesting to view EVERYONES last 58 games or what ever Zach ends up with. That would put into perspective the kind of career and growth he had.