Anybody think Painter is contemplating a change at the 3?
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Our 4s have been OK, but when your 3 is a non-scorer, you need better than “OK” from that spot.
Maybe we can take the iu approach and become "journeyman head coach University" with a revolving door of coaches. That must be the BESY way to land the 5-star athletic guards.......................
Like every other business, the best way to procure the top product is cash on the barrel head…
Does a player who leaves after 1 or 2 years for the NBA have a stake in Purdue?
Do you think Purdue will get back to a FF before iu does?
Not sure what short tourney run is, but none of that is deadly unless the play on Zach is really physical where grabbing, pushing and holding make it difficult to catch and/or he gets pushed way out. Not calling it tighter inside takes a lot out of the Purdue O.
The recent OSU game shows a bit what happens if the inside is cleaned up. Part of the 3 ball shooting is that the wrong players are shooting "some" and in a close game that can make a difference. I've harped on it many times before. What is a good shot for some is not a good shot for everyone. Also, I want to believe that after playing Purdue once teams have a feel on what they need to do the next time. The losses are all similar with all the things you state AND a few more. No doubt all the losses will be studied in the tourney.
Braden showed none of the IU guards could prevent him from getting to the rim, but the problem was TJD was there to clean up the drive. I suspect that if Brandon gets increasingly more minutes by rebounding and solid D without throwing the ball away that his shooting % goes up as he gets more comfortable with more minutes. Throw out any percent comparions between Ethan and Brandon, because Brandon is a much better shooter who doesn't get the same looks as Ethan most of the time. There needs to be more out of the 3 and a little more consistenly out of the 4 offensively. I think an improvement in the 3, increases the chances for an improvement in the 2. Still, I wish that Purdue got more out of the 4 as well...however it is done...driving the ball, shooting open shots that are "for THAT person" a decent chance of a make...can you say Gillis only...
Do you think Painter's a good recruiter? Without even looking it up, I would bet that in his last 10 recruiting classes, he might have 1 in the top 20. Maybe 2. But, i bet at least 5 are ranked 30 or higher
I like Furst at the 4. I'd like to see him be more aggressive on O. He runs well for a 6'10 guy and finishes well. Earlier in the year, he was getting out a lot more in transition. I realize we're not a transition team but we need all the easy buckets we can get right now.
Newman needs to be on the floor more. His athleticism raises Purdue's ceiling.
He's also clearly improved when he's been given more consistent minutes.
Get the kid on the floor.
He's also clearly improved when he's been given more consistent minutes.
Get the kid on the floor.
I don't have to watch anything other than Ethan shooting to know he is highly unlikely to be a legitimate threat behind the arc. Brandon I think can be a legitimate threat behinds the arc. I thought Brandon was the 3 man needed before the season. I see a capable shooter in Brandon and one that Matt has set up...was it NW to take a shot towars teh end of the game. He isn't setting up Ethan to do the same. Shooting percentages are not immune to other issues inside a team and inside a game. Ethan's best chance of scoring effectively is driving the ball even if playing below the rim.
I never watched an AAU game of Braden to know what he could do. I also don't think people understand the mindset in shooting when playing a 2 or a 3 "at Purdue" and that of a "1" at Purdue. When Zach leaves, I think we see an uptick in Braden's numbers as well since the wiring will be different. Can Purdue counter the D that was played in the losses...that is the question to be answered this season
That's an excuse. Do you think Jay Wright cheats? Tony Bennett?
are you interchanging Brandon with Braden? Having a hard time following. But I agree, Newman needs more minutes. Morton's starting to deliver diminishing returns.
THAT is his game...getting quick downs, garbage baskets off boards and passes from Zach out of a double. He needs more offensive skills as does Trey...who maybe drives the ball better? He needs to not turn his wrist sideways when he shoots sometimes, but he needs to be a much greater offensive threat. He was Mr. Basketball and he needs improved skills to really be a handful, because shooting 3 pt shots or living at the FT line is not a friend today...same with Trey.
Not all all...just pointing out that Braden can get to the rim against every team he has played...not every possession, but through picking and choosing mostly. Braden's shooting percent will go up when Zach leaves I believe. The 1 at Purdue has to have a different mindset than many 1s at other places and scoring is a last resort instead of a second or third resort. I'm more concerned at the 3 and 4 than I am at the 1 and 2. The three and 4 are older and should be providing more. If they do, I think we see the 2 improve in shooting as well.
Not an excuse. Facts. Educate yourself son.
Do you think Sean Miller and Will Wade are better recruiters than Painter? They have had higher ranked classes, so they must be.
If you look at the Top 20 recruiting classes over the last 10 years, what % of those coaches do you think cheated?
Yes, but that wasn't the question. I'm sure some do, but I don't think it's nearly as rampant as you'd like to believe. If it were, the coaches not cheating would be calling it out
No way. If it were anywhere near that, the other 30% would be raising hell and proving it.
I think the NIL money was such a screw up by the NCAA and that the lines between what is legal or illegal are so blurred that almost nothing and almost everything could be constituted as cheating.
For example, NIL money isn't supposed to be used as a recruiting tool or incentive, but I can guarantee, every school (including Purdue) knows the loopholes of how to use it for this purpose. It's essentially created a free agent market for top college players. And yes, I think coaches (including Painter) work with those private groups that control the NIL $ on how to allocate it.
This may sound like I am trying to make an excuse for Gillis (am not) but take it however you wish as it was reported as factual
Gillis either didn't practice all last week or very limited due to back pain / problem
Does a player who leaves after 1 or 2 years for the NBA have a stake in Purdue?
Depends on who the coach is, and what system he has in place to "showcase" the kids talent.
Do you think Purdue will get back to a FF before iu does?
Not w/the current, decades old "feed the post, kick it out" to an open shooter.
He did also get 10 rebounds and was very active around the basket, in his start vs OSU.
Wrong. Painter has referenced it, Keady did, even Izzo and Crean did.
And your boy Wright even got nailed for recruiting violations.
Start Gillis and Newman and there is nobody to double off of.
Actually, that was my starting five guess before the season. I thought Mason complimented Zach better than the other two. I thought Brandon did as well at the 3. When it didn't happen, I thought Matt was just trying to keep an offensive team with Brandon when subbed.
I also thought that playing Caleb and Trey might open up the court better for Ethan since I thought he would be able to drive the ball some in that lineup.
It does seem like Newman is shooting better than Morton right now (too lazy to look at the numbers), but do people forget how cold Newman was all of last year?
I don’t think Morton is a bad shooter, I think he’s just in his own head, similar to how Newman was last year.
It would probably make sense to give Newman more minutes right now and Morton less, but it won’t be a magical solution. Newman could get cold too, just like Morton could get hot.
What lead you to believe Morton isn't a "bad shooter"? This is his third year at Purdue and he's made 72 baskets in 89 games.
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It’s not just shooting, it’s defense as well. While Newman didn’t stop Hood-Shifino by any means, he at least stayed with him and turned him over a couple times and seemed to make him give it up more than Morton. He also did a better job on Buie than Morton at NW. For being “Purdue’s best defender”, Morton has been giving up big numbers to a lot of guys this season and a few game winners on his watch too.
Brandon's mechanics are much better than Ethan's. Brandon has things in place that "offer an opportunity" to shoot better than Ethan should. Ethan is a better ball handler (passing and dribbling), but athleticism, rebounds and shooting belongs to Brandon and a potential increase in scoring is higher with Brandon. I can't speak to Brandon's off ball defense this year, but he has been solid on the ball. Whether Brandon improves his shooting % I don't know, but he can and offers some other things...just go to cut down needless errors with the ball as he sometimes gets in autopilot with the ball.
You got nothing. As expected.
Whereas we have proof that others are cheating with NIL.
When has Morton ever gotten hot? What's his career high? Every coach in the B10 would love for Morton to put up 12-15 shots, knowing there's a high likelihood he misses most of them.
At least Newman's a threat to got 6-10 from 3 and put in 20+ pts, he's done it before.
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