qazplm said:

Have you seen it much the last two seasons? I haven't. At best there's an explosive drive off the fast break or to snag a rebound. What I haven't seen is breaking someone down off the dribble. Heck, I've seen Loyer do it much more often than those two and he's about five percent more athletic than I am.

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No I haven’t and we don’t know if they can. I have a suspicion that they aren’t given the green light to do that since they aren’t the main focus of the offense. If we are going to be successful, (and they actually are able to) they need to add it and quick.

*Shockerrr* said:

Yes I forgot those. Plus I forgot to add the best player…the punter!
Dang didn’t see Rigby entered until now. If I was to guess the guys that enter from now on most likely won’t be back after having the coach talk I am sure.

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From what it sounds like there won’t be “the coach talk.” Odom seems like he genuinely wants to keep as many players as possible. Problem is some guys just don’t want to compete. Davila and Browne both seemed interested in staying but then bolted within 24 hours of odom saying he wanted to keep them because he needed 2-3 really good QBs and had a transfer QB on campus and a commitment. I suspect the same with Rigby. I think we still have a lot of talent at WR still.

PaBoiler78 said:

Galloway to MTSU? is that the best he could do?

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Obviously the offers weren’t there with no tape but he probably won’t be there long either. Could have been at LSU then comes to Purdue instead for a sh*t show of a season and still doesn’t see the field.

POTFHBTFU said:

Nick Levy, Sterling Smith, and Tra’mar Harris all were in the portal and withdrew.

Rigby entered today

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Yes I forgot those. Plus I forgot to add the best player…the punter!
Dang didn’t see Rigby entered until now. If I was to guess the guys that enter from now on most likely won’t be back after having the coach talk I am sure.

pubill said:

What u smoking.

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Don’t be bitter lol. He’s good and you know it

Carlboiler said:

I mean why not play brian waddell more he is a good player

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You know this how? High school?

Nice to see some outside shots fall the last two games. Hope they can keep it up.

11 turnovers today after 25 the last game.

27 assists on 35 made FG's....that would be nice to see more often.

Amiyah Reynolds with career high 6 assists. Jordyn Poole with a couple of real nice no look assists.

I hope Kendall Puryear is ok....that was a nasty looking ankle turn.

*Shockerrr* said:

Updated transfer list
Gone = 16

QB- Browne - North Carolina
QB - Davila - Nebraska
RB- Elijah Jackson - Ball St
WR- Jahmal Edrine - Virginia
WR - Jaron Tibbs - Kansas State
TE- Biber - Minnesota
TE- Galloway -Middle Tennessee St
OL - Mahamane Moussa -Louisville
OL - Marcus Mbow (NFL draft)
OL- Jalen Grant - NC State
DL - Cole Brevard -Texas
Edge- Will Heldt -Clemson
LB - Yanni Karlaftis - Northwestern
DB - Joesph Jefferson -Western Michigan
DB - Tarrion Grant -Texas Tech
DB/S - Dillion Thieneman - Oregon

Portal = 7

TE - Max Klare - transfer portal
WR - Leland Smith - transfer portal
DL - Damarjhe Lewis - transfer portal
DB - Botros Alisandro - transfer portal
DB - Kyndrich Breedlove - transfer portal
DB - Derrick Rodgers jr. - Transfer portal
DB/S -Koy Beasley (transfer portal)

Returned = 3

WR - Arhmad Branch - returned from portal
DL - Jamarius Dinkins - returned from portal
Edge - Jamari Payne - returned from portal

Looking at this list is a gut punch! Can’t wait to see who Odom can bring in to fix up this roster!!

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Nick Levy, Sterling Smith, and Tra’mar Harris all were in the portal and withdrew.

Rigby entered today

Small teams like ours that play well in games like this ....
1. Play fast
2. Shoot well
Which we did neither ......today or lately.
Love our guys but we are middle Big material.....
Portal for some meaness and bigness.

Dryfly88 said:

1. What was their SOS before playing OSU? Serious question. I think playing OSU saved them from having a very high/low SOS. But I could be wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you about if they should have been in the playoffs. But if you don't think how they and SMU played today won't affect the committee going forward, I think you're pretty naive. Same scenario next year and Alabama, South Carolina or others will be in there.

As I said, I think IU schedules exactly like a team in their position should. Make it as easy as you can to make a bowl every year. Don't challenge yourself early, just get 3 for sure wins and then hope for the best in conference. They had a very nice year and if I were an IU fan I would be thrilled. I think if you can take off your crimson glasses you would agree they were outclassed and didn't belong in that game. But if not, that's ok no big deal.

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That's how most teams do it. Indiana plays 9 conference games. It doesn't make any sense to essentially add a 10th. SEC teams play 8. So a team like Alabama played Western Kentucky, South Florida, Wisconsin and then Mercer in the middle of November. It doesn't make any sense for any B1G team to schedule a 10th game.

I mean why not play brian waddell more he is a good player

Bringing this thread up again, because I think it’s a massive deal. Auburn had almost all seniors and Covid seniors playing today. That can’t be ignored, and should be considered as we panic.

Use Toledo game to run plays for Colvin and Heide and see what they can do, not going anywhere this year with only 3 guys in play

purduedavie said:

Yes, 1 difference maker needs to be brought in, hoping Matt realizes this.

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How could he not? Granted, you would have thought that would have been clear before this season.

Riveting said:

'Selective' does not apply to football players and legacies.

Further, selectiveness is not a measure of quality. Look at the NU website to see all the worthless or even frivolous majors that are offered.

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Selective applies to all Northwestern students. Your personal opinion of the worth or lack thereof of majors at Northwestern has no influence on the academic status of Northwestern University. It does however speak volumes as to your lack of intelligence. Northwestern is considered a top ten university (because of their selectivity and rigor) while Purdue is considered a top 50 institution.

Bank Shot Podcast said:

Man... You really got the guy who made the CFP and went 11-2 there..

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And again, beat absolutely nobody with a pulse.

He’s fools gold - I’d extend the pretender another ten years

Boiler Buck said:

Like I said in another thread....prob best as bench players on a great team vs starters on what is a good team.

This team is pretty good, but for next year needs to add some starters.

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Yes, 1 difference maker needs to be brought in, hoping Matt realizes this.

Hudson off to Kentucky, Purdue signed a 6-3 outside hitter from Iowa today that started as a Frosh for a good BYU team, she didn’t play this year for some reason. Natalie Moravec is the young ladies name, anyone know anything about her?

Poprudy said:

When sets breakdown. You need a PG that can dribble drive or create his own shot against tough teams.....ours does not have that ability. He's good when sets can be executed.

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I suspect that Braden is about to go on a run where he looks all world again. Hopefully some other guys step up and this team gets well over the next six games.

As someone else mentioned this is looking like a .500 or slightly better in the big ten team. Big ten is good this year. Wont be many freebies on the road if any.

Ill give Painter the benefit of the doubt that we go 12-8 in big play. That puts us at 20-11 and likely right in the 7 to 10 seed range, with our SOS helping us stay there despite multiple blow outs.

I was totally wrong earlier in the year about us being much better with TKR at the 5, teams have countered it extremely well and we have no answer. None.

Edey was better than even imagined that he was able to mask all this.

The number 1 issue has been the number 1 issue since painter took over. We so not ever have more than 1 guy at a time that can create off the dribble. I mean truly create and be successful at it. We had it in Edwards and had an amazing run. We had it in Ivey, to a lesser degree, and had great season success, less so in the tourney. Outside those 2 we havent come close. Smith can do it, but vs good long defenders he isnt successful with it.

We continue recruiting role players. Zach was so good we were dominant anyway, but without finding another Zach, we have GOT to start getting multiple Edwards and Iveys.

MichaelRR said:

@#22 Iowa, @#15 MSU, #1 UCLA, #20 Michigan, @Oregon (who beat then #12 Baylor and only has one bad loss to SDkSU)(marginally winnable), @Washington (on Kelsey Plum jersey retirement night)(marginally winnable), #7 USCal, @UILL(marginally winnable), Nebraska (marginally winnable), then 3 games we have a good chance in : 2/2 hosting UWisc, 2/9 at Rutgers, and 2/12 hosting Northwestern. I'd bet heavily against Purdue the next 7 games, and would be shocked if we won either the Illinois or Nebraska games. After Nortwestern we have some winnable games hosting UMinn and at PSU scattered between two games against IU and one against OSU. Absolute best case scenario I see is 5-13 BT record and at least a 7 game losing streak starting after tonight's game. Tell me why you might believe otherwise please?

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Any other time I’d wish you good luck on your betting, but not this time. Boiler up! Go upset some of all those giants (Is dreaming still free?)

Wolegib said:

I’ll double down on my statement. You mentioned position players. Did any of them develop physically by redshirting? Were any of them better for redshirting? I can name just as many who didn’t redshirt who were just as good and didn’t redshirt. The entire point of redshirting linemen was to recruit smaller linemen and then use a year to beef them up. And my entire point was that any lineman that is worth anything was already on a weight and conditioning program in high school and one more year of drinking protein shakes is not going to add another 40 pounds to a 260 pound lineman or develop stronger muscles! You failed to grasp the main point of my argument and decided to go on your own tangent! The only reason the above players redshirted was because they were at a position where they didn’t start. Did they actually develop? Or were they actually just as good as freshmen but just didn’t have an opportunity to play?

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If you don’t think those guys developed, I give up.

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And once again you know everything and I know nothing. You say 5 players entered the portal and then returned. Go ahead and name them! And who of those 5 players is an actual difference maker? Or will be a starter? And who of those 5 players actually got a better offer? And do you have any proof they actually entered the portal?

That’s like saying a player entering the nba combine is going to enter the nba draft!

So who entered the portal that decided to come back? And were they even serious about leaving in the first place?

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I don’t know everything.

Tra’mar Harris
Jamari Payne
Ahrmad Branch
Nick Levy
Sterling Smith

I don’t know if all those guys will start. Branch is expected to complete and was the second fastest WR we had last year. Nick levy is our staring king snapper and when he saw we were hiring an elite ST coach he decided to stay. Harris and Payne were true freshmen and great recoveries. I don’t know anything about smith. Also Mockobee was expected to move on if Purdue didn’t keep Conard, so chalk that up to wait and see who the coach was but I didn’t count him since he didn’t officially enter the transfer portal. The other 5 did.

Again don’t let facts get in the way.