FiveWeight said:

I’m so confused when I hear people suggest we might get the same coach back next year. How could that even be? Is he not objectively the worst coach in Purdue history by winning %? This season we already double down on him. Does that mean next year it would be tripling down, or quadrupling down since it’s two ply times two?

If he is retained, that will be the first time in my life I have seen any sports team I’ve paid attention to in any league show increased commitment to the worst product they’ve ever produced while it’s sinking in free fall. It’s impossible to imagine any professional sports franchise making such a business decision. It’s also really hard to imagine any power conference football team doing this either, which just speaks to how screwed up the thinking must be if they retain him.

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Early in the season, @pboiler18 was insisting that Walters was worse than the Haze. I couldn’t go there, maybe because I subconsciously didn’t want to believe that could possibly be the case. But he might be right.

I’m so confused when I hear people suggest we might get the same coach back next year. How could that even be? Is he not objectively the worst coach in Purdue history by winning %? This season we already double down on him. Does that mean next year it would be tripling down, or quadrupling down since it’s two ply times two?

If he is retained, that will be the first time in my life I have seen any sports team I’ve paid attention to in any league show increased commitment to the worst product they’ve ever produced while it’s sinking in free fall. It’s impossible to imagine any professional sports franchise making such a business decision. It’s also really hard to imagine any power conference football team doing this either, which just speaks to how screwed up the thinking must be if they retain him.

Riveting said:

Everybody recruits against us, and everybody raids our players. And presumably, we do the same.

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Yeah we’re raiding Indiana State and Ball State recruits now.

BoilerJS said:

No coincidence this happened after Trump won the election.
IMO Trump was going to get peace in Europe by coming up with a compromise where Ukraine would give up some property to Russia.
That wasn't acceptable to the EU.
Was it acceptable to Ukraine??

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Let's backtrack a bit. Biden started the Ukraine-Russia war by agreeing to allow Ukraine into NATO (link). For years, Putin warned that any former Warsaw Pact nation attempting to join join NATO would be considered an act of war. Yet Biden gave the green light for Ukraine to join and Putin started planning the invasion of Ukraine immediately.

So before you ask if giving up Ukraine land is acceptable to the EU or Ukraine, consider: (1) Can Ukraine possibly WIN a war against Russia? And (2), does Ukraine, the EU or the US want the current war escalated even further?

SIBoiler2 said:

We know, you prefer Liz Cheney, Pelosi's hand-picked RINO. Her biggest gift to the Republican Party was helping to make Harris unelectable.

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He also likes Establishment Loser-NiceGuys like Romney.

Quix0te said:

He owned a home in Louisville during the entire time he coached at WKU and Purdue. That's where he's living right now. He poached Purdue recruits and Purdue players after he quit. He now recruits against us to this day.

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Not unusual for wealthy people to own homes in different places. His parents stayed in Louisville, and he seems very loyal to them and family - like many of us are.

Everybody recruits against us, and everybody raids our players. And presumably, we do the same.

BNIBoiler said:

That is why Chump is dangerous and should not be anywhere near the US government.

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We know, you prefer Liz Cheney, Pelosi's hand-picked RINO. Her biggest gift to the Republican Party was helping to make Harris unelectable.

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Do Dah Day said:

My Gawd man, that's ancient history!!!!

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I'm damn near as young as you!!!

SIBoiler2 said:

Going back to when I had young kids, I certainly hope they repaired it with a Go-Go-Gadget leg!

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My Gawd man, that's ancient history!!!!

PurdueVBFan said:

I fully agree with everything you said. However, I still believe the Nebraska match, despite the loss, was the best level of play and most competitive this team has been all year. Last night was a great continuation of the positive streak they’ve been on.

Thursday will be a great test and a win would greatly help in the Big Ten standings and for NCAA seeding. Being able to host the first two rounds is such an advantage.

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Spot on. Purdue was a whisker away from defeating a top 3 team on their court. I’m no VB expert, just a fan, but that match seemed to me to be their finest hour so far this season.
The 2 losses at home - both sweeps unfortunately - to PSU and Wisconsin were disappointing, but I hope for a much better showing at Penn State this week. They may not win but I would be surprised if it doesn’t go at least 4sets. I think the team is much more settled in than when they played the first time.
Between this VB team and men’s BB, we are blessed to have such fun, talented teams to follow and root for.

Quix0te said:

He owned a home in Louisville during the entire time he coached at WKU and Purdue. That's where he's living right now. He poached Purdue recruits and Purdue players after he quit. He now recruits against us to this day.

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And staying on the Walters' path makes it easier for him to recruit against us.

BNIBoiler said:

You and others here fail to realize historical events in history whether it's a year ago, 60 years ago, or perhaps hundreds of years ago can affect current times. The debate was why blacks tend to overwhelming vote democrat and I laid out why with Barry Goldwater and the republican party "evicting" blacks from the party in 1964. Currently, blacks do overwhelmingly vote democrat. Some say that it is due to LBJ. I disagree, however if that is true then that is the reason why black vote democrat. The bottom line is whether its due to Goldwater or LBJ it is still relevant today because black mostly vote democrat and there was a reason behind the shift historically. History events happened an you can't erase it. It is very ignorant to say that historical events are no longer relevant. Just because they may not be relevant to you doesn't mean that it is not relevant to somebody.

Even with the current events going on now. The war in the Ukraine, Israel/Hamas War, Biden's successes/failures, Chump's successes/failures, etc. will have an impact on the US/World for generations to come.

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The Caucasian and the Latino vote matters.
The Black vote?

If you take the Black vote out of Trump's totals, he would have still won. No question. Too small of a group to matter all that much outside of a couple states.

Glad most groups, including even some Blacks, were able to look beyond their typical voting history and vote on solely on policy.
That's real progress.

Do Dah Day said:

I heard he'll be the 1st cyborg above 7' ....

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Going back to when I had young kids, I certainly hope they repaired it with a Go-Go-Gadget leg!

bonefish1 said:

If Trump delivers during his next 4 years, you're going to see an even larger shift of the black vote over to the Republican side. I've seen estimates of 30+ percent. If that happens, the Dems may never win another election.

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#1 Chump sucks and not going to deliver. His cabinet picks, at least 3 of them are jacked up.

#2 Chump is still a racist. His cabinet picks have no Negroes selected. Kinda feel bad for Tim Scott who after tap dancing so much for Chump wasn't selected.

#3 As long as DEI is the enemy of the republicans, 30 plus percent black support is a pipe dream. However, after 4 years the MAGA bs will be over so there is slight chance of an increase if a normal republican runs for president. Still no where near 30 percent. After 4 years of Chump the last time the black support was maybe 12%. So how after the next 4 years you expect the increase to be north of 30%.

#4 Low voter turnout have historically doomed Democrats in elections. That was the case in this election. There was lower black voter turnout this election cycle compared to the last. Ironically, some black voters were pro-Palestinian and were turned off by the Biden/Harris Israel support. Many of them did not vote. Some may have voted for Chump, ignorantly not realizing that he is very pro-Israel and bear-ish of Palestine compared to Biden/Harris.

Quix0te said:

I doubt that this happens. First of all, you need consensus, or at least a simple majority. I could see why Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State and USC might agree with it, but why would UCLA and Washington and Nebraska and Iowa and Minny and Mich St and Wisconsin and Illinois and Purdue and Rutgers and Maryland agree to it? They would be voluntarily demoting themselves.

Secondly, all of our heavyweights appear to be happy with the status quo. You never hear a word from Ohio State about unequal revenue sharing. I understand that FSU and Clemson are squealing about it in the ACC, but that’s because the their TV contract is so pitiful.

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Uh, it won’t come from the schools… obviously….

BNIBoiler said:

That is why Chump is dangerous and should not be anywhere near the US government.

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Over 76 million disagree with your wrong opinion

Quix0te said:

Biden allowing Ukraine to strike Russia with US-supplied weapons will 'enrage' Putin, says retired lieutenant colonel | Fox News Video

'Fox News Live' co-anchor Arthel Neville speaks with Ret. U.S. Army Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis about President Biden allowing Ukraine to use long-range ATACMS to strike Russian territory.

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No coincidence this happened after Trump won the election.
IMO Trump was going to get peace in Europe by coming up with a compromise where Ukraine would give up some property to Russia.
That wasn't acceptable to the EU.
Was it acceptable to Ukraine??

I fully agree with everything you said. However, I still believe the Nebraska match, despite the loss, was the best level of play and most competitive this team has been all year. Last night was a great continuation of the positive streak they’ve been on.

Thursday will be a great test and a win would greatly help in the Big Ten standings and for NCAA seeding. Being able to host the first two rounds is such an advantage.

New Pal Boiler said:

I don’t see us or any other B1G school being “fired”.

I COULD see the SEC and B1G merging, and then creating multiple tiers, with promotion and relegation, English Football style. Schools in the “Premier League” get the biggest shares of the media deal, with schools in lower divisions getting less.

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I doubt that this happens. First of all, you need consensus, or at least a simple majority. I could see why Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State and USC might agree with it, but why would UCLA and Washington and Nebraska and Iowa and Minny and Mich St and Wisconsin and Illinois and Purdue and Rutgers and Maryland agree to it? They would be voluntarily demoting themselves.

Secondly, all of our heavyweights appear to be happy with the status quo. You never hear a word from Ohio State about unequal revenue sharing. I understand that FSU and Clemson are squealing about it in the ACC, but that’s because the their TV contract is so pitiful.

Akerphin said:

On Game Day yesterday Saban and Davis (I think) said if IU gets waxed by OSU, that with their 100TH RATED SCHEDULE they won’t make the playoffs! But after all the losses yesterday by other « so-so » Top 20 teams IU’s odds went way up

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People complain about the schedule but I'm pretty sure Michigan had a super weak schedule as well. And I find hilarious when talking heads say "Every other top 25 team would be undefeated too." As if Bama hasn't lost to a mediocre Vandy. Tennessee lost to Arky. BYU lost to Kansas. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois. Miami lost to Virginia Tech. Ole Miss lost to Kentucky. Kansas State lost to Houston. Colorado lost to Nebraska. Washington State lost to New Mexico. Louisville lost to Stanford. Tulane lost to Oklahoma. That only leaves a few teams who have proved they can beat every mediocre team on their schedule.

bonefish1 said:

The same place a perennial bottom feeder like iu found $72M. When a school is committed, they'll find the money.

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I don’t think you will see any acc school make any commitment like that until the fsu lawsuit is over. Right now their tv contract ends in 2027, espn can extend in February 2025 through 2036. And their revenue lags $20m behind big ten which is expected to increase to as much as $40m-$60m over time. How do you find that money? It’ll take some time but if espn renews it might be the best thing for sec and big ten as the acc teams will fall off and create clear separation. Florida state and clemson can’t find buyout money I just don’t think people realize how hard it is to make up that kind of money. I mean on an 8 year deal that’s like $400m difference

bonefish1 said:

I get so much satisfaction in Tenn losses, doesn't matter what sport. They're fans are iu level whiners and believe there's a massive conspiracy about them by the officials every game.

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IU level? They’re way worse, worst fan base in the country. If this was a home game they’d be launching stuff onto the field. It was a incomplete pass.

bonefish1 said:

The same place a perennial bottom feeder like iu found $72M. When a school is committed, they'll find the money.

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It’s also a major financial winner if a school gets the right guy.

IU is going to average 20,000 additional fans per home game this year and potentially going forward.

With 8 home games a year and $75 per ticket that’s an additional $12,000,000 annually, and that’s not counting concessions, parking, community economic impact, and national university exposure.

The trick is to be correct in assessing who’s worth the investment.