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That was a nice diversion

Said a lot of things and not sure of a particular you hope I'm right, but if I'm not, we still have the team we have. My biggest concern as always is stopping dribble (first) and pass (second) penetration into the lane. Getting better at that will help the defensive rebounding and ultimately lower the opposition FG% I believe...and lower their FT attempts. Most everyone knew the most potent offensive team and it appears that will be more in play. That said, rotations will be developed. Together, Cox and Harris should be able to handle the ball when Braden is out, but no doubt the offense will stagnate some without Braden. Course "if" a team is pressing hard there should be less of a need to run an offense enabling Harris and Cox to be more effective "IF" they don't turn it over. If the opposition is not pressing hard full or 3/4 quart, then the potential issues remain. Half court pressure can still be a problem though. Still, Matt does not want the other team to make a run due to not having enough offense on the court and so the current five creates more questions about who is coming off the bench and when. I don't believe Matt wants the current five playing so many minutes as an attempt to reduce the sub times as he expects movement on O and D and fresher bodies.

The single best thing or pleasant surprise from the last game and a small amount against Marquette is Myles attacking the basket. IMO, that is HUGE! It will add a player to the list capable of getting inside the lane on his own, making it harder for Myles to be defended rather than the spot shooter he was last year. Kudos to him for his improvement!

I'm of the belief that turnovers are the result of your team on offense rather than the defense of the other team. Naturally, the opposition has a say on that and tries to make it difficult. Purdue still has choices and one is to NOT throw it to a teammate that has another defending him in passing lane...which Purdue did. The other correctable thing is to develop better timing in coming off screens as well as setting up or sealing the defender in a way that puts him a step behind you preventing him from blowing up the screen. Unfortunately the handoffs at the top of the key resulting from a hard, high hedge while not being as worried about a quick slip/roll from the 5 pushes Braden out farther due to him going as fast as he does fearful of getting an offensive foul into the D 5 man. If the screener becomes more and more a threat, they can't double and/or blow up that screen. Should or could we see more wings ball screening? Ultimately, I want to believe this team will improve and defensive pressure effectiveness will diminish.
Agreed the forwards pick and popping would relieve some of the pressure pushing us out to the 3 line 1/2 the time. And both capable of making them pay. Both Myles and Cam would benefit from the big boy rule. If you are in the paint, attempt to dunk it. I'm really excited for both of them. They have a huge opportunity as teams scheme to take Braden and Fletch out of their games and double at times on Trey. Mid range, back doors, lobs, it's all there for them if they get open and shoot it like they can. Defense and rebounding remain big question marks, but some less already with Myles improvement on D.
The O end is certainly intriguing.
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Biden getting us into WW III before leaving office.

Bob, I was referring to the bumbling and screwups of the Biden admin. Iran appeasement, open borders, Afg withdrawal debacle, etc.

If you want to look at the past 80 years, consider the senseless and deadly Vietnam war, the Iraq invasion, the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 that completely surprised our intelligence agencies - as did the 9/11 attacks. I could add to this list, but those are the worst.
It's a good thing that government agencies charged with protecting us screw up once in awhile. Otherwise you wouldn't have anything to bitch about in hindsight.
What you fail to acknowledge is all the death and destruction that have been prevented by those entities because all the victories they had are kept under wraps.

If you were alive in '45 and were told there wouldn't be a nuclear war in the next 80 years you would be ecstatic. A moment later you would catch yourself and bitch about why we didn't stop Pearl Harbor.

Meanwhile you support an army major for SecDef. His vast experience managing large organizations, geopolitical issues he reported on at Fox, and the strategies he used to navigate three marriages before he turned 40 will serve him well. He does have experience paying off his accusers should help him out when dealing with foreign leaders.

Biden getting us into WW III before leaving office.

Lol. If simply bombing the locals would get them to stop we could have won in Afghanistan.

How do you resupply the base? Just fly in a C-17 over Taliban territory where anybody with a MANPADS can shoot it down? You want to send armed convoys through enemy territory to bring in supplies? Trying to keep an airbase operational while it's completely surrounded is completely illogical and shows a fundamental lack of understanding of military tactics and operations. Now deflect to something else to hide the fact you don't know wtf you're talking about.
Winston, we landed aircraft at Bagram throughout the entire Afg war without losing any that I recall.

I know the military has been weakened by the idiot woke policies of Biden, but it still has advanced capabilities, thankfully.

That was a nice diversion

I screamed a few times: "Don't release so soon!" The hedging did work well and there could have been some fouls for a moving screen, but still. -- Do you think there could have been successful reverse screens following the 1st one?
I think back screens and back cuts more than token clear outs could be used more...particularly with the passing Trey has shown out of the high post. Releasing too soon as you said allows the D to catch back up since the passer is not ready to pass it. It comes down as you know to timing and positioning (of the screener and the one using the screen). Both of those can and should improve.

Matt wants pressure on the ball even after jamming the ball to eat clock, but many times he depends "more" on the team D or shell and positioning than recruiting players for their individual D abilities and it has served Purdue well even if it runs into difficulty at times. Since Purdue is not an in your face denial team, it suggest the possibility that Purdue doesn't get the reps in practice to against pressure to make backscreens embedded in the DNA...and of course with Haas and Zach it wasn't part of the repertoire very much and even with Trevion since his were mainly dives by the 4 man. Naturally the high post by physical location makes back screens more probable to enact IMO.
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Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

BoBo has done an awesome job with the other sports at Purdue.

I still believe the sole reason that Walters has not been fired is because none of YOU that have complained about him have ponied up the $10 million to replace him.

You want a new coach. To get a new coach, you will need to find the money for Walters buyout and the new coach Will want more money than Walters if you expect him to bring Purdue back to mediocrity.

WHICH one of YOU that wants Walters fired is willing to put your money where your mouth is? I can hear crickets chirping.

On a plus side, Walters has faced 4 schools ranked in the top 5 this year and faced a top 25 Illinois and a top 10 IU. Would any coach have been able to win those games? The sad part is the schedule isn’t going to get any easier going forward as we look to having teams like USC and Washington on our schedule. The BIG10 didn’t do Purdue any favors with their last 4 additions.

I truly believe Purdue just doesn’t have the money to buy out Walters. They earmarked too much of that revenue for facility upgrades. Purdue is asking alumni to pony up for the NIL and now asking for more money to replace the coach? Sorry. There is just so much money alumni are willing to give.

You keep talking about the new Big10 network revenue. But you have no idea how much of that money has already been earmarked for other expenditures. You moan and complain Purdue gives out so little NIL money. Is it possible that’s because Purdue just doesn’t have the money to give?

Who here gives Purdue $1 million a year? That is the person who has a right to complain. If you don’t give, then accept the product you are given
we didnt ask our last coach to leave and we didnt hire him and many had speculation about he hire this is on bobinski to fix his mess.

Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

You know that is a good point. Regardless of what happens, there is a host of new assistants coming in.. that you're paying for anyway.. why not do all of that under a new coach?
The only reasonable answer to this is they already have a good plan for assistants. Media said CRW said he already had a guy in mind for OC and they said he was interviewing assistants. Cignetti was hired 11/30 last year and immediately had to build his roster. They need to have their new staff in place on Monday 12/2 or we will be in big trouble with recruiting and retaining players.
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Shaka

Painter has made it to the championship game, something Shaka has never done, and frankly don't really ever see Shaka doing it. His tourney wins are very few.
You have to play a higher seed to beat one and Painter usually has Purdue in the tourney with a high seed. You been told this numerous times but somehow you think your made up “stat” is some kind of gotcha.

Biden getting us into WW III before leaving office.

Yeah, all their bumbling and screwups have led to no global wars or nuclear exchanges in the nearly 80 years since WW2. So sorry that the world isn't running as smoothly as you think it should be.
Bob, I was referring to the bumbling and screwups of the Biden admin. Iran appeasement, open borders, Afg withdrawal debacle, etc.

If you want to look at the past 80 years, consider the senseless and deadly Vietnam war, the Iraq invasion, the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 that completely surprised our intelligence agencies - as did the 9/11 attacks. I could add to this list, but those are the worst.

Coach that went to 6 straight bowls has been fired…

he offered to resign mid season, the school said no. He also gets more money from the university if they terminate the contract.
He’d also said Yesterday that he planned to return…

Shaka

To the posters talking negatively about tourney success of Painter, you are being irrational. I would challenge you to name 10 coaches with more tourney success over the last 7 tournaments than Painter has had. Stop the strawman of pointing to seed numbers, since there are crazy upsets every single year, and look at actual tourney results.

During the above time frame Painter has taken the team to the tourney every year, made the second weekend a shocking 70% of the time, had 2 deeper runs including a runner up. When you are a top 10 team consistently you are prone for some upsets in the tourney, otherwise every year we would have 4 1 seeds in the FF.

There is 1 coach with more consistency than Painter and that is Few, there are a handful more that won their chip game and are a little less consistent who you could argue are ahead of Painter. The list is pretty slim since 4 of the 7 champ games were won by 2 coaches one of which is now retired and another champ winner that was arguable the biggest tourney choker in the league who won it all and retired.

All that said who exactly are these amazing coaches that are amazing tourney coaches? I can see Few, Self, Hurley (not consistent but 2 chips is 2 chips) seem likely a step up. Then you have a bunch of maybe about the same with Herbert, Drew, Oats, Sampson?

You are Purdue fans which leads me to believe you graduated from there. Almost every PU grad I have met has a very logically brain, and seeing some of the emotional hot takes about things that defy reality just don't seem to fit the mold that I have seen from Purdue grads......
I'm just curious, since you want to talk seeding and upsets, what do you make of the stat that Painter has only beat 1 team (and that was St. Mary's, who's not even on the college basketball map) that was seeded higher and not a 8/9 game?

Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

It's money. We've almost never spent money on football like other power schools have.

The one time we did was Brohms extension and the lesson they appeared to have learned was that was meaningless because he just left anyways so they went budget with their next hire.

For all the DEI aholes, there are plenty of black coaches who have head coaching experience, they could have went and gotten one of them. Walters being Black has zero to do with it. Walters being cheap to get did.

Fire or retain Walters, if you aren't going to invest in personnel (coaches and players) then it doesn't matter either way. In the NIL age you get the product you pay for.
Theyre two seperate issues. 1) the hire was horrible. We should never bring in a coach who doesnt have a proven track record as a head coach. Theres several they could have hired from the MAC or other mid major. Besides the obvious point of showing you are capable of leading a program to success you can usually bring the coaches you want from your previous job to make the transition smooth. Theres also the benefit of plucking a few players you know are good enough to succeed in the b10. Ideally, your candidate won at two schools as a head coach but thats tough to find. Ultimately, the head coach, assistants, and roster usually come out better when you get a guy like that. 2) money. I think they could have gotten the guy that met the criteria above with the same pay. Assistants....probably not but we arent talking about much more money and the previous coach quit. Its not like we owe him money which makes the walters hire even more infuriating. NIL money is a different subject and we didnt do well with the guys we lost vs guys that came in. Im assuming we could have done better with more NIL money but the staff also did a poor job with the money they did have. I would have rather paid a couple of the guys that left. Having a stud wr and dlineman might have won a couple more games for this staff. Having more NIL is always better but if you didnt hire the correct person it will go to waste.

Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

It's money. We've almost never spent money on football like other power schools have.

The one time we did was Brohms extension and the lesson they appeared to have learned was that was meaningless because he just left anyways so they went budget with their next hire.

For all the DEI aholes, there are plenty of black coaches who have head coaching experience, they could have went and gotten one of them. Walters being Black has zero to do with it. Walters being cheap to get did.

Fire or retain Walters, if you aren't going to invest in personnel (coaches and players) then it doesn't matter either way. In the NIL age you get the product you pay for.
This doesn’t fly that easily for me. We have 5-7 win talent and a 1 win coach.

Long term we need investment but why invest next year with a dud coach, dud staff and likely dud players coming back?

Investment in a Ferrari (or even a Chevy) is moot if you put it on square tires and take out the engine.

DEI isn’t why we got Walters but after 5-19…why do we STILL have him?
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Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

It's money. We've almost never spent money on football like other power schools have.

The one time we did was Brohms extension and the lesson they appeared to have learned was that was meaningless because he just left anyways so they went budget with their next hire.

For all the DEI aholes, there are plenty of black coaches who have head coaching experience, they could have went and gotten one of them. Walters being Black has zero to do with it. Walters being cheap to get did.

Fire or retain Walters, if you aren't going to invest in personnel (coaches and players) then it doesn't matter either way. In the NIL age you get the product you pay for.
I don't think it's about money. If it were, iu wouldn't have just committed $72M to their HC.

That was a nice diversion

The other correctable thing is to develop better timing in coming off screens as well as setting up or sealing the defender in a way that puts him a step behind you preventing him from blowing up the screen. Unfortunately the handoffs at the top of the key resulting from a hard, high hedge while not being as worried about a quick slip/roll from the 5 pushes Braden out farther due to him going as fast as he does fearful of getting an offensive foul into the D 5 man. If the screener becomes more and more a threat, they can't double and/or blow up that screen. Should or could we see more wings ball screening? Ultimately, I want to believe this team will improve and defensive pressure effectiveness will diminish.
I screamed a few times: "Don't release so soon!" The hedging did work well and there could have been some fouls for a moving screen, but still. -- Do you think there could have been successful reverse screens following the 1st one?
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Just for fun....had Painter used the portal..

Being half glass full for the DJ injury, hopefully now Berg and RB are able to take a leap for next year due to more playing time and then DJ comes back to at least where he was to start this year for next season. That way the 5 spot will be much more competent than this years group after the DJ injury.
I’m consistently overly optimistic, but I’d expect DJ to be much more Big Ten ready a year from now than he was pre-injury.

I know he’s out for six months but I’d expect that he’ll be bearing weight and able to do some lower body weight training soon. Hopefully he’s already working on his upper body and his nutrition. It’s much easier to add muscle when you’re not burning tons of calories playing basketball every day.
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Why Trump Needs to Drain the Swamp

Dude have you seen pictures of MLB player Sammy Sosa from my Chicago Cubs lately? Since retirement, Sammy Sosa had chemically lightened his skin color. He’s from the Dominican Republic. As with a lot of Latin American countries, colorism is bad there. The lighter the skin color, the more privilege you have. This is no different here in the US. Lighter skin blacks have enjoyed better privileges than their darker skin counterparts. Same with lighter skinned Latinos/Hispanics.
Not sure if you agree with me or disagree, but what I said was true? I will say that I see it much more a prejudice than "privilege" thing...because I'm not one looking for privilege. Could prejudice result in less privilege...possibly, but in a capitalistic country money paves the way quite often. The best way of eliminating prejudice is having compelling information that the held prejudice is wrong.

Sagarin top 100

Said it in another thread, maybe we're the Cubs of college football. Go to the game to party. I haven't been to game in a long time, but something is drawing the crowd and it's not the Purdue product on the field.
It’s gotten better with the mix of Friday night and Saturday night games. Plus alcohol. I think basketball indirectly helps because the students need to basically get season tix to football to get basketball tickets and students won’t turn down free tickets so we usually have a full student section which adds to the gameday experience.

Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

Walters isnt up to the task. Your question is a great one...why is he here right now when he should have been let go during the bye. Its even more eggregious if tom is correct and he gets another year if the powers that be use wins and losses as their main kpi. If its not wins and losses is it money, pride, or something else? I really dont know and i doubt a straight answer is ever given but they are setting the program back by years by this decision. We have to build the team with solid recruiting. We dont have the cash or desire to invest to make a huge splash in the nil world. We are hemorraging recruits left and right and nobody will tske walters serious on the recruiting front going forward. To your point.....why? Whats more important than having a competitive football program from an athletic department viewpoint.
It's money. We've almost never spent money on football like other power schools have.

The one time we did was Brohms extension and the lesson they appeared to have learned was that was meaningless because he just left anyways so they went budget with their next hire.

For all the DEI aholes, there are plenty of black coaches who have head coaching experience, they could have went and gotten one of them. Walters being Black has zero to do with it. Walters being cheap to get did.

Fire or retain Walters, if you aren't going to invest in personnel (coaches and players) then it doesn't matter either way. In the NIL age you get the product you pay for.
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