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Will Robert Phinisee be the next to commit to IU.

I agree that it WOULD suck if Phinisee ends up being a stud for IU. CMP obviously doesn't share your opinion or he would have been court side at all of his games like he was with Dawson, Biggie, JJJ, etc.

We'll see who's right in a few years.
Great response. It's impossible to judge now whether a recruit is a "miss" as it were until they are essentially done with their career so we have something tangible to base it on.

Until that time, from my beer perspective on him choosing IU I say a resounding MEH.
 
Translation: "I don't really have a substantive response, and I want my way, so, I'll toss out an ad hom". Your perceived whine, responded with a whine. That's rich.

Sir, it's far from ad hom. You are going WAY OVER the top with ridiculous overreaction overstatement and it's quite childish and petulant.

If you were having this conversation with your mates at the pub, they would be tellIng you you're acting like a lil bitch.
 
Great response. It's impossible to judge now whether a recruit is a "miss" as it were until they are essentially done with their career so we have something tangible to base it on.

Until that time, from my beer perspective on him choosing IU I say a resounding MEH.

If we wanted & recruited him and we did. Then it's a miss if he commits elsewhere no matter what your own personal prospective are.

The problem a see a lot with boiler nation is the idea of waiting for the next recruit, next year etc...What if the next never comes...
 
If we wanted & recruited him and we did. Then it's a miss if he commits elsewhere no matter what your own personal prospective are.

The problem a see a lot with boiler nation is the idea of waiting for the next recruit, next year etc...What if the next never comes...
You obviously do not understand recruiting. Not all offers are created equal. If you can't see that CMP recruited Anderson, Eastern, JJJ, and Biggie harder than Phinisee, then I can't help you.

And believe me, the kids can tell who is "showing them love" and who is not.
 
If we wanted & recruited him and we did. Then it's a miss if he commits elsewhere no matter what your own personal prospective are.

The problem a see a lot with boiler nation is the idea of waiting for the next recruit, next year etc...What if the next never comes...

Every team in the nation will lose out on a recruit often times more than once or twice.

I don't really know how much other program fans get all worked up, but I can't believe it's anything like Purdue fan!
 
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If we wanted & recruited him and we did. Then it's a miss if he commits elsewhere no matter what your own personal prospective are.

The problem a see a lot with boiler nation is the idea of waiting for the next recruit, next year etc...What if the next never comes...
Well on that token it's your own personal perspective that quantifies it as a "miss".

I'd say that waiting has paid off a bit for CMP here with some late recruits and frankly who cares anyway? If we continue to win isn't that the end goal no matter who is on the team?

And I also ask, what if he flops? Is it still a miss if he gets to the college level and isn't the stud he is being made out to be? That is my perspective, I wait and see instead of making knee jerk reactions on something I have no control over and on a recruit that more than likely isn't going to pan out to the lofty expectations being put on him.

Oh and just to forewarn you, there isn't a thing you are going to say to change my mind. I've been on these forums long enough to not take anything on here seriously and form my own judgement that is often contrary to what is posted here. If the notion is wrong and he turns in to a stud, hooray for you, you win the internet for a day. I assure you though I am not going to care because I will be busy supporting my school and the team that is on the court at the time.
 
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Sir, it's far from ad hom. You are going WAY OVER the top with ridiculous overreaction overstatement and it's quite childish and petulant.

If you were having this conversation with your mates at the pub, they would be tellIng you you're acting like a lil bitch.

Actually, in fact, the overreaction and overstatement is when I give an opinion, the response is a pathetic, adolescent, character attack. If I were having this conversation with "my mates at the pub", who are adult and intelligent... the response would be on topic and something well thought out. You don't have to agree to have a spirited and adult convo....well....except here. Being a bitch is having no substantive position other than whine with a personal attack in response to an opinion you struggle having the capacity to deal with. So, there is that.
 
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Actually, in fact, the overreaction and overstatement is when I give an opinion, the response is a pathetic, adolescent, character attack. If I were having this conversation with "my mates at the pub", who are adult and intelligent... the response would be on topic and something well thought out. You don't have to agree to have a spirited and adult convo....well....except here. Being a bitch is having no substantive position other than whine with a personal attack in response to an opinion you struggle having the capacity to deal with. So, there is that.

You didn't approach adult by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Well on that token it's your own personal perspective that quantifies it as a "miss".

I'd say that waiting has paid off a bit for CMP here with some late recruits and frankly who cares anyway? If we continue to win isn't that the end goal no matter who is on the team?

And I also ask, what if he flops? Is it still a miss if he gets to the college level and isn't the stud he is being made out to be? That is my perspective, I wait and see instead of making knee jerk reactions on something I have no control over and on a recruit that more than likely isn't going to pan out to the lofty expectations being put on him.

Oh and just to forewarn you, there isn't a thing you are going to say to change my mind. I've been on these forums long enough to not take anything on here seriously and form my own judgement that is often contrary to what is posted here. If the notion is wrong and he turns in to a stud, hooray for you, you win the internet for a day. I assure you though I am not going to care because I will be busy supporting my school and the team that is on the court at the time.

Winning is the end game. Totally agree.

Yes, he may flop. And, then, no, it no longer is a "miss". With that being said, often, here, we put up praise upon many recruits. Robert is just one. No different than the hundreds before. And, won't be the last. The problem isn't a prediction that I think he will be very good. It's the sad state that if you disagree, you lack the ability to use a well thought out rebut( not "you" specifically BBG).

I totally get that you aren't changing your mind. I can actually relate to it. LOL. I'm not budging either until he goes elsewhere and flops. I'm going to consider it a big swing and miss if IU gets him.
 
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You set the bar mighty low. Put the stone down, step away from the glass house.

You're no fun....

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Winning is the end game. Totally agree.

Yes, he may flop. And, then, no, it no longer is a "miss". With that being said, often, here, we put up praise upon many recruits. Robert is just one. No different than the hundreds before. And, won't be the last. The problem isn't a prediction that I think he will be very good. It's the sad state that if you disagree, you lack the ability to use a well thought out rebut( not "you" specifically BBG).

I totally get that you aren't changing your mind. I can actually relate to it. LOL. I'm not budging either until he goes elsewhere and flops. I'm going to consider it a big swing and miss if IU gets him.
It's not a "big" swing and miss, as CMP didn't take a "big swing" at Phinisee. It's well documented what that looks like, with CMP showing up at nearly all high school games, AAU games, tennis matches, football games, overseas games, etc. That clearly wasn't the recruitment of Phinisee, by all accounts.
 
It doesn't matter who's minutes he would take. The same would be said of Hunter or Embery or any point guard Painter signs in the 2018 class. The simple fact was Phinisee was a Purdue target, and a pretty good player. And we were out recruited by IU. This is just like losing out on JJJ. WHo's minutes would JJJ take? Or Francis, or Anderson? Or Langford?

You never know with a recruit how they will fit in. But he was a quality player who will be playing elsewhere. I wish him well, and hope we can sign somebody just as good. And worry about minutes when the player arrives.
Are we talkin bout Phinese? He's not JJJ, Francis, or Langford, not even close. I don't get the panic over a kid who would spend most of his time here backing up Eastern. Am I missing something? How he gets on the floor matters a hell of a lot to him. Is he going to play over eastern or Edwards, that's his two possibilities? I doubt it very much.
Where he is from is not relevant if he knows he's not going to see the floor much at Purdue.
I want to see longer (tall) shooters this year, then pick up iThompson next year.
 
Winning is the end game. Totally agree.

Yes, he may flop. And, then, no, it no longer is a "miss". With that being said, often, here, we put up praise upon many recruits. Robert is just one. No different than the hundreds before. And, won't be the last. The problem isn't a prediction that I think he will be very good. It's the sad state that if you disagree, you lack the ability to use a well thought out rebut( not "you" specifically BBG).

I totally get that you aren't changing your mind. I can actually relate to it. LOL. I'm not budging either until he goes elsewhere and flops. I'm going to consider it a big swing and miss if IU gets him.
Fair enough and I can respect your opinion. I hope he does well for his own sake, just not against us :)
 
#122

There are plenty of similar talent. Either way I wont lose a second of sleep. It's not like we're talking Biggie type of talent.

I wish the young man all the success in the world and hope he becomes a star.

Just remember DJ Byrd was #102
 
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No, he's not Biggie. no he's not JJJ no, he's not even LeBron. but he was one of our top 5 targets at guard, and he was as good as the other guard targets we were recruiting. and the fact remains, we haven't signed any guards yet, and our targets keep going elsewhere. it appears we have 1-2 of our to p targets left.


Sure, we have Eastern and C Edwards and Cline and Sasha next year. but it sure would be nice to have a Hunter, Carmody , Embery or Phinisee backing them up. I hear a lot of talk about Isiah being almost a lock and out top target for 2019. What's ironic is that I heard that same talk about a lot of previous players from prior years. Harris was a legacy. no way would he sign elsewhere. JJJ will fit in the hole left by Swanigan. he's a sure thing. Epperson loved Purdue and was about to sign during the early signing period , then at the last minute decided to wait and then signed elsewhere. Zach Randolph was going to sign with Purdue, but we didn't wan t to sign his buddy, so he went to MSU as a package deal. the list goes on and on and on.

if a person wanted to, he could be really negative about all the posts made about sure things that signed elsewhere. I don't blame painter for missing out. I blame the media sites like this and posters here for getting our hopes up when the player was really never interested. it's time we were honest with ourselves. Is Langford actually interested in Purdue, or do we just hope he is? is Painter really interested in Trapp, or is he just listed to fill web site database space? of all those players listed as warm or warmer, are they actually interested?

Painter's 2017 class came nowhere near what posters here predicted it would be or should be. it was a good class. it could have been better. it could have been far worse if eastern went to MSU. is the sky falling? No. maybe a couple of ceiling tiles.

I leave it to painter to give his best efforts and sign who he can, And when he does, I'll give my honest opinion. unlike many of you, I don't follow Indiana or AAU basketball very closely anymore. And I value national opinions rather than local ones.

one thing I do know. We have 4 scholarships we can give out. And looking at our offers and targets, the pickings are getting thin. Rather than crying about who we lost, we need to close in on who is still left. if we like Dow, and Hunter, and they like us, let's get it done. if they don't like us, it's time to move on.

But let's not say good riddance to a talented player, and say we'll do a lot better in 2019. What I don't want to happen is to give 4 scholarships to mediocre players. It's time to hit the recruiting trail. it's time for our assistant coaches to earn their money.
 
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Of course you'd "speculate" all of that. However, if a new coach decides to make Robert such a priority in such a short time. AND to visit his house AND send coaches to his games, as you "speculate" Painter didn't do, then you'd better hope he ends up not being a big deal. I honestly hope him going to IU is not true. Time will tell, but I'm pretty convinced he's going to be a big deal. With you now deciding Painter didn't even really want him, will be even more sad if he does become a big deal. Just think...a new coach, out recruits AND out evaluated a player in our yard. Sucks.
I don't think there is that much speculation about it. While neither of us has that good a crystal ball to predict how good RP will be, the best we can do is look to the last 3 years rankings. Personally, I want more height & speed in our guards. If he wanted to come to home-town Purdue, fine. If not, no skin off our nose.

So far I count 2 misses that hurt: Anderson and JJJ. That is recruiting 101, right? I figure you get 1 out of 5/6 you really want. Was he a top 5 guard?? That's misleading. We just did not offer that many guards, because that position is not a big need next year.
 
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I don't think there is that much speculation about it. While neither of us has that good a crystal ball to predict how good RP will be, the best we can do is look to the last 3 years rankings. Personally, I want more height & speed in our guards. If he wanted to come to home-town Purdue, fine. If not, no skin off our nose.

So far I count 2 misses that hurt: Anderson and JJJ. That is recruiting 101, right? I figure you get 1 out of 5/6 you really want. Was he a top 5 guard?? That's misleading. We just did not offer that many guards, because that position is not a big need next year.


let's just say with 5 scholarships to give, you would think we would give one of those scholarships to a guard, maybe two. And admittedly, we didn't target very many guards. but Phinisee was one of them, and the vast majority of our other guard targets have already signed elsewhere.

I'm not sad Phinisee may go elsewhere. I'm just concerned we only have one targeted guard - Hunter - still warmly interested. Out of 11 offers made combined to point and shooting guards, we only have one player still interested and not committed.

Are THT and Ahrens considered as SGs. on 24/7, they are listed as 6'5 SFs. That would change my thinking if they were SGs. I also want a guard who can handle the ball. Langford would be that guy. but I'm not holding my breath for Langford.
 
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I don't think there is that much speculation about it. While neither of us has that good a crystal ball to predict how good RP will be, the best we can do is look to the last 3 years rankings. Personally, I want more height & speed in our guards. If he wanted to come to home-town Purdue, fine. If not, no skin off our nose.

So far I count 2 misses that hurt: Anderson and JJJ. That is recruiting 101, right? I figure you get 1 out of 5/6 you really want. Was he a top 5 guard?? That's misleading. We just did not offer that many guards, because that position is not a big need next year.

I am still upset that Bane was never offered. Would have been an excellent fit for the system and he has been incredibly good as a freshman. Not sure there are 50 players in that class I would rather have and we never offered. It was mind boggling to me because he was extremely efficient in the Adidias Gauntlet and had the size/athleticism/shooting Painter loves. I am not sure it would have affected Eastern, because he was brought in as a pg. Not getting Bane bothers me much more than not getting Phinisee.
 
The problem a see a lot with boiler nation is the idea of waiting for the next recruit, next year etc...What if the next never comes...
I'm not sure I see your point. Boiler nation waits for the next recruit, and you see that as a problem? What exactly is our alternative? What are you doing that is different that you would like to see the rest of us do, and that would make a real difference?
 
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So who are we are realistically in the hunt for? How far do we do we go down before we end up with low-level JUCOs? Not getting worked up with Robert P, but it does raise questions in recruiting. Does Painter take advantage of Biggie or does he let it fizzle out?
 
#122

There are plenty of similar talent. Either way I wont lose a second of sleep. It's not like we're talking Biggie type of talent.

I wish the young man all the success in the world and hope he becomes a star.

Just remember DJ Byrd was #102
And R. Johnson was, what, #90?
 
I'm not sure I see your point. Boiler nation waits for the next recruit, and you see that as a problem? What exactly is our alternative? What are you doing that is different that you would like to see the rest of us do, and that would make a real difference?

I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only one recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guy, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skills that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...
 
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Figures I would see the usual suspects here having a meltdown...

Don't you think some of these recruits look at Purdue and don't see lots of minutes in the backcourt in the forseable future and that makes Purdue a hard sell right now?

I watched Phinisee plenty of times and was never taken aback by his overall ability. I'd rather have a number of other guard prospects in 2018 and 2019...specifically Isaiah Thompson.
 
I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guys, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skill that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...

Loading up? They signed three wings almost all the same height and weight and an undersized pg. I am sorry if that doesn't leave me shaking in my boots. Crean stacked up highly rated players that did the same thing and he had no more success than Painter. Our '17 class should be significantly better than IUs.

As for the '18 class there is still a shot with THT, Ahrens, and Hunter. Not sure if we will off Henry or not, but they could help landing Hunter and Henry is a very good player. I am wondering if acedemics are holding Painter back from an offer. Not to mention there will be late risers like Wheeler was. I will be far more concerned if they land Jackson-Davis over us.

Yes, we missed out on most of our plan A guys, but we did the same thing last year. We have Williams already, who I am very excited about if he can cut his weight back down and continue to dominate. He is one of the best rebounders in the upcoming class. We have some really nice young pieces in Wheeler, Eastern, Edwards, Williams, Haarms. Purdue has everything it needs to make a deep run this year and that will help with recruiting if we can make a run at atleast an elite 8 and compete for a Big Championship or atleast the tourney championship. I will be surprised if IU even makes the tournament, and if they do I expect them to just barely squeak in by name alone like MSU last year. I expect them to be the 6-8 best team in the conference.

I think after this year, Purdue will have a new look that is very appealing to recruits. A very up tempo offense. I also expect to sign Isaiah Thompson who should end up being a stud. If they can add Jackson-Davis the sky is the limit. I am not ready to step off the cliff just yet, but I am keeping an eye on Archie to see if he continues to take away Purdue targets. Just not as worried about the 2 he has taken so far.
 
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Figures I would see the usual suspects here having a meltdown...

Don't you think some of these recruits look at Purdue and don't see lots of minutes in the backcourt in the forseable future and that makes Purdue a hard sell right now?

I watched Phinisee plenty of times and was never taken aback by his overall ability. I'd rather have a number of other guard prospects in 2018 and 2019...specifically Isaiah Thompson.
Yeah,Yeah it's the same noise the football board had about Coy Cronk going to IU. He didn't turn out to bad, Freshman All-American. I really like this pick -up. Not just for 2018, but for future recruiting in Ind.
 
I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only one recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guy, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skills that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...
Sorry but Robert is a good recruit but he is nowhere near "top". Step away from the ledge.
 
Yeah,Yeah it's the same noise the football board had about Coy Cronk going to IU. He didn't turn out to bad, Freshman All-American. I really like this pick -up. Not just for 2018, but for future recruiting in Ind.

The two aren't even remotely comparable. Cronk didn't go to Purdue because our dumb ex-coach never offered him. It's pretty simple: if Cronk had been offered by Purdue, he'd be playing against Louisville in a few weeks.
 
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I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only one recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guy, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skills that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...
So RP pledges to IU and your perspective, after reading the analysis of this board over the past 3 months is that we are "losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits"? Top recruits (plural)? I don't know what your deal is but maybe you need something to whine about. That's okay, but when you do it on this board, you are probably going to be ridiculed just a bit. Yes, they got Anderson, who was a top target, but that's old news, right? Certainly, RP was not a top recruit. So what are you talking about, exactly?
 
I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only one recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guy, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skills that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...

OK, I see your point. But in all the 40+ years that I have been a Purdue fan, IU has always taken top recruits from the state. Rose, Keady, Painter... it didn't matter who the coach was. Purdue still kicked IU's butt. And I'm still not sure how you want the fans to change that, unless it's to stop attending games, stop giving to Purdue, and start a letter writing campaign to fire Painter and bring in a coach who recruits with the blue bloods. I understand these are all options, but it probably isn't realistic if we continue to have good enough teams to reach for the ring, but can't quite grab it. Right or wrong, most Purdue fans are optimistic and think "this is the year." Wisconsin fans have always been that way, which makes it even worse for you, because what they did boosts the hopes of Purdue fans even more.
 
Sorry but Robert is a good recruit but he is nowhere near "top". Step away from the ledge.

No where near the ledge. So enjoying the life that I have. I'm more disappointed that we lose Anderson to IU than Phinisee. Anderson would be a great fit with playing time probably waiting for him as VE leaves too.

So RP pledges to IU and your perspective, after reading the analysis of this board over the past 3 months is that we are "losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits"? Top recruits (plural)? I don't know what your deal is but maybe you need something to whine about. That's okay, but when you do it on this board, you are probably going to be ridiculed just a bit. Yes, they got Anderson, who was a top target, but that's old news, right? Certainly, RP was not a top recruit. So what are you talking about, exactly?

You are just sore cus you are still misinformed after being on this board for 14 years. FYI, I've been reading this board much longer just didn't register and post.

Anderson was no doubt a top recruit for us. Phinisee was a high priority recruit and he being from Lafayette stings no matter how you want to spin it.
 
I see it as a problem that some here is okay with losing out to the IpUke on our top recruits, with the thinking that there is always the next one. Last year was supposed to be loaded with local talents so we stock up scholly for the class 2017 by signing only one recruit (CE), but we missed out on that for the most part. Some here says at that time, well 2018 have even more local talents, so no big deal. But as you could see we have not done much yet with the 2018 class either, meanwhile I f*cking U is loading up.

You ask what's the alternative? Well, I say start by demanding more from PU basketball and CMP and not settling. Good but not good enough is "not good enough" for PU basketball.

Like I've says before, I have not made up my mind on Painter yet. I like the guy, I went to school when he played and I think he a pretty good coach, but I'm not sold on his recruiting skills that I think will get us to the Final 4. He has 3 years left to prove the doubters wrong, and I hopes he does...
I do demand more than a #122 recruit. That's "not good enough" for me.
 
No where near the ledge. So enjoying the life that I have. I'm more disappointed that we lose Anderson to IU than Phinisee. Anderson would be a great fit with playing time probably waiting for him as VE leaves too.



You are just sore cus you are still misinformed after being on this board for 14 years. FYI, I've been reading this board much longer just didn't register and post.

Anderson was no doubt a top recruit for us. Phinisee was a high priority recruit and he being from Lafayette stings no matter how you want to spin it.
The fact you think he was a high priority recruit shows how little you've been paying attention....
 
Doesn't matter how talented a player is. If they do not hustle or play hard they are a liability. Don't know what type of player phinesse was but he was never coming to Purdue. Kids want to get away from home at least 90% of the time. If I was from Lafayette, I probably have not went to Purdue but I sure would have never went to IU if I grew up in Purdue Country. Of course IU probably offered him some good money.
 
You obviously do not understand recruiting. Not all offers are created equal. If you can't see that CMP recruited Anderson, Eastern, JJJ, and Biggie harder than Phinisee, then I can't help you.

And believe me, the kids can tell who is "showing them love" and who is not.

Phinside is a unique case because he was local and locally there simply aren't a lot of great players coming out of Tippecanoe County. Phinisee is probably the best since Berry out Jeff a number of years ago (didn't have the grades to get to Purdue but played at Ball State). I have a distinct feeling that if Phinisee wasn't local, he wouldn't have gotten much more than a flyer offer as a sign of respect for a state kid.
 
Doesn't matter how talented a player is. If they do not hustle or play hard they are a liability. Don't know what type of player phinesse was but he was never coming to Purdue. Kids want to get away from home at least 90% of the time. If I was from Lafayette, I probably have not went to Purdue but I sure would have never went to IU if I grew up in Purdue Country. Of course IU probably offered him some good money.
Stop the idea that he was offered money...highly doubt he is a recruit worth breaking the rules for. If it was JJJ or Langford...yes...but not Phinisee.
 
All sports are dirty. Most Division 1 players get something. I would bet everything I got that he got something. Don't really care if you agree or not.
 
Great response. It's impossible to judge now whether a recruit is a "miss" as it were until they are essentially done with their career so we have something tangible to base it on.

Until that time, from my beer perspective on him choosing IU I say a resounding MEH.
Really?
 
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