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who is Tim Waltz? Is he sleezy enough to fit in?

actually that is research over many cultures and years by Thomas Sowell. You must be smarter than he? Not that I expect a short video to provide the insight of a book, but it does show an area he has researched

here he talks about Isolation, but doesn't go into various cultures that "choose" to isolate and not assimilate. that can be found in a book of his. Those pearls of wisdom are not mine.
 
I'll go with the constant denigrating of American institutions, from law enforcement to the courts to other elected officials to the media to the members of his own cabinet, culminating with the constant disparagement of our election system and its integrity.

Not an official 'policy' you say?
Well it was an official, constant edict and theme from the then-President. That whiny, snowflake, America-hating bastard sent a bunch of cranky old evidence-free wanna-be internet detectives straight down the 'tin foil hat voting machines are rigged' rabbit hole.

And a bunch of them still haven't come out. Don't believe me? Look at this by one of your poster brethren:

Good lord, his kids and grandkids must be incredibly saddened by what happened to him since he fell into the Trump cult. An older, educated guy that fell all the way in and still hasn't climbed out from the rabbit hole. It's not uncommon, and really sad.

BTW ... didn't heard a peep from Trump about a 2024 rigged election when he was ahead of Biden. Now that he's falling behind? The Trump 'elections are rigged' train leaves the station in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, ........

Also, watch the old guy who is all the way down the rabbit hole respond with either a way too long non-sensical diatribe or, if he's really stumped, a laugh emoji, in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, .....
HoosierJM, where you been.
As usual, you can't name a policy, you just talk personality.
I'm not surprised the party of "You hurt my feelings" vote on how a person makes them feel as opposed to actual issues and policy. I don't expect anything else from lefty libs.
 
He is an example of a Trump 'appointee' who did not quit or get fired, and who did a good job.
"The White House chief of staff at the time, Mark Meadows, was in the dining room off the Oval Office with Trump at one point during last year’s Capitol attack, the committee has been told. Meadows then left the dining room and informed other people nearby that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president, the panel heard."
 
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HoosierJM, where you been.
As usual, you can't name a policy, you just talk personality.
I'm not surprised the party of "You hurt my feelings" vote on how a person makes them feel as opposed to actual issues and policy. I don't expect anything else from lefty libs.

Reduced to citing NPR to back you up, JM?

Berliner had advice for naive libs like you.


Trying to defend the indefensible with personal insults to any poster that cites examples of Trump's horrible leadership?

Incredibly immature. Do better.
 
Trying to defend the indefensible with personal insults to any poster that cites examples of Trump's horrible leadership?

Incredibly immature. Do better.


After you cite NPR as a source, how can you consider it an insult to be called a naive lib?

Were you aiming for some other category, like Pro-Hamas dem or something?
 
"The White House chief of staff at the time, Mark Meadows, was in the dining room off the Oval Office with Trump at one point during last year’s Capitol attack, the committee has been told. Meadows then left the dining room and informed other people nearby that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president, the panel heard."
The committee that did not call Pelosi to testify, and that destroyed evidence? That is even more naive than citing NPR.
 
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HoosierJM, where you been.
As usual, you can't name a policy, you just talk personality.
I'm not surprised the party of "You hurt my feelings" vote on how a person makes them feel as opposed to actual issues and policy. I don't expect anything else from lefty libs.
I do miss the theatre of Jan 6 of grandma and grandpa as "insurrectionists. I understand him fitting into the herd and gulping what he is fed. Here is a bit of an explanation on the herd or "group thought" as promoted in skools and by the left. There are a few on here not in the herd...thinkers on their own rather than gulping what is incessantly fed, and having the food or drink been proved as inaccurate over a few years. You as one have not followed the herd Bone. Good for you. Here is the zebra explanation about people by...drum roll...Jordan Peterson
 
Again, your feelings don't matter. Stick to outcomes and results, not whether someone give your the giggles.
Franklin Graham is mature enough to see flaws in Trump, but to know he is morally superior for America and therefore supports Trump.
 
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After you cite NPR as a source, how can you consider it an insult to be called a naive lib?

Were you aiming for some other category, like Pro-Hamas dem or something?
They don't know. They take what they are fed and regurgitate like a fly. That is how they were successful in school, not with independent thought.
 
Again, your feelings don't matter. Stick to outcomes and results, not whether someone give your the giggles.
here are a few data points some never knew and some may have forgotten. Data abnormalities 101 for understanding, but not what you would ger from the media...just data points and enough to bring real questions into play like...how?
 
Trying to defend the indefensible with personal insults to any poster that cites examples of Trump's horrible leadership?

Incredibly immature. Do better.
can't figure out why I read what you typed and read old man sex...maybe with another older man. It gets so confusing at times...
 
What policies are these though? Open borders isn’t a policy. I’m asking you to name specific policies and you can’t or won’t. I’m not asking for something complicated here. Nowhere is “open borders” an actual policy no matter how many times you post it here.

Higher taxes. Could you be any more vague? I live in Indiana and they have high gas taxes. The governor is republican. See how easy it is to knock your talking point since it lacks any depth and, you know, facts?

You’re free to tuck and run, but that confirms to me that you know you look like a clown here.

What policies are these though? Open borders isn’t a policy. I’m asking you to name specific policies and you can’t or won’t. I’m not asking for something complicated here. Nowhere is “open borders” an actual policy no matter how many times you post it here.

Higher taxes. Could you be any more vague? I live in Indiana and they have high gas taxes. The governor is republican. See how easy it is to knock your talking point since it lacks any depth and, you know, facts?

You’re free to tuck and run, but that confirms to me that you know you look like a clown here.
Womp womp. Under TW MN ranks 7th highest in State tax burden. Thankfully for him there are crazier blue state leaders.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494

And what is your reference for “top economic State” maybe a Bill Press piece in in Politico that quoted TW saying such? I checked the data and under TW they are trailing National averages for GDP and job growth and they turned a huge surplus into a deficit.
 
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Interesting perspective on the D ticket from across the pond. Thought some of you “rubes” would be interested. Pretty worldly huh for a guy with vomit for brains. Check out some of the comments from the Brits. Pretty funny.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/tim-walz-shows-that-democrats-have-given-up-on-free-speech/
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Womp womp. Under TW MN ranks 7th highest in State tax burden. Thankfully for him there are crazier blue state leaders.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494

And what is your reference for “top economic State” maybe a Bill Press piece in in Politico that quoted TW saying such? I checked the data and under TW they are trailing National averages for GDP and job growth and they turned a huge surplus into a deficit.
Perhaps we’re looking at different metrics but again, your arguments are really thin when compared to the overall data. You can just say you hate him because he’s a Democrat. At least you would be honest about it, Joe.


 
Perhaps we’re looking at different metrics but again, your arguments are really thin when compared to the overall data. You can just say you hate him because he’s a Democrat. At least you would be honest about it, Joe.
A more reliable source on the topic.


Excerpts:

Minnesota boasts a low unemployment rate (2.9%), but that’s less impressive than it seems. Nearly all of its job growth under Mr. Walz has been in industries that rely on government spending. Since he entered office in January 2019, Minnesota has added a net 41,500 jobs. This includes 43,900 in healthcare and social assistance and 12,600 in government.

Private industries have lost jobs, including finance, information, professional and business services, retail, manufacturing and leisure and hospitality. Such job losses started before the pandemic but accelerated during Mr. Walz's prolonged lockdowns and have increased during the last year.

Manufacturing employment has declined by 7,500 over the past 12 months, while professional and business services have shed 22,700 jobs. This is especially notable since Mr. Walz last spring signed a giant tax increase, including a 1% surcharge on investment income over $1 million. He also reduced standard deductions for businesses such as for net operating losses.
 
A more reliable source on the topic.


Excerpts:

Minnesota boasts a low unemployment rate (2.9%), but that’s less impressive than it seems. Nearly all of its job growth under Mr. Walz has been in industries that rely on government spending. Since he entered office in January 2019, Minnesota has added a net 41,500 jobs. This includes 43,900 in healthcare and social assistance and 12,600 in government.

Private industries have lost jobs, including finance, information, professional and business services, retail, manufacturing and leisure and hospitality. Such job losses started before the pandemic but accelerated during Mr. Walz's prolonged lockdowns and have increased during the last year.

Manufacturing employment has declined by 7,500 over the past 12 months, while professional and business services have shed 22,700 jobs. This is especially notable since Mr. Walz last spring signed a giant tax increase, including a 1% surcharge on investment income over $1 million. He also reduced standard deductions for businesses such as for net operating losses.
I appreciate the excerpts since I can’t fully read the article. I feel it’s important to note that it’s an opinion piece, though, as well, so there’s a slant. Not saying I agree or disagree with it, but opinions tend to take a side.

Regardless, is this enough to label him some kind of radical socialist liberal? You’re free to think that, but at the same time, give me that over a bottom of the barrel state like Arkansas any day of the week, which ranks nearly dead last in almost every metric possible.
 
Perhaps we’re looking at different metrics but again, your arguments are really thin when compared to the overall data. You can just say you hate him because he’s a Democrat. At least you would be honest about it, Joe.


Did you happen to attend the "BNI school of statistics and analytics"?
 
I appreciate the excerpts since I can’t fully read the article. I feel it’s important to note that it’s an opinion piece, though, as well, so there’s a slant. Not saying I agree or disagree with it, but opinions tend to take a side.

Regardless, is this enough to label him some kind of radical socialist liberal? You’re free to think that, but at the same time, give me that over a bottom of the barrel state like Arkansas any day of the week, which ranks nearly dead last in almost every metric possible.
I think it is enough to label him as an ineffective thinker and leader from an economic standpoint, despite the glowing review by the lib media such as cbs.
 
I think it is enough to label him as an ineffective thinker and leader from an economic standpoint, despite the glowing review by the lib media such as cbs.
Yes yes, I get it. You’re fully incapable of going one single post without snark as well (stupid snark, at that). I could easily repeat your words right back to you, change a name or two, and your defenses would be at defcon 10 because you aren’t capable of being rational or any having any kind of thought beyond surface-level or whatever is spoon-fed to you. But thanks for stopping by.
 
Yes yes, I get it. You’re fully incapable of going one single post without snark as well (stupid snark, at that). I could easily repeat your words right back to you, change a name or two, and your defenses would be at defcon 10 because you aren’t capable of being rational or any having any kind of thought beyond surface-level or whatever is spoon-fed to you. But thanks for stopping by.
I have never called anybody a snowflake on this forum that I can recall, but I am tempted.

I was talking about Walz, not you. I am sorry you took it personally. Lighten up.

Should I say "I mean, duh" to put it in terms you are comfortable with?
 
I have never called anybody a snowflake on this forum that I can recall, but I am tempted.

I was talking about Walz, not you. I am sorry you took it personally. Lighten up.

Should I say "I mean, duh" to put it in terms you are comfortable with?
I was just glad he didn't call you arrogant a$$. I know I had to correct Bob a couple of times when he called others that by reminding him of how hard I worked to get that name and really didn't want to share it. A^2 or A squared has a nice ring to it
 
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Well I certainly never said those things but I realize you need to hit your daily quota of “socialism!!!” so knock yourself out, bud.
You may not have said those things but that is what your party is for.

So let me get this straight….no one under 25 pays for anything (because college is free, just take out a loan). And no one over 65 pays for anything because SS.

Oh, and the kickers….no one pays for healthcare and illegal immigrants get free everything until they get a job, which the government doesn’t allow.

And people wonder where inflation comes from because the “Trump tax cuts” didn’t leave enough money in the government to pay for the Democrats wish lists above.
 
Perhaps we’re looking at different metrics but again, your arguments are really thin when compared to the overall data. You can just say you hate him because he’s a Democrat. At least you would be honest about it, Joe.


Did you actually look at this? And thanks for supporting my position w/your reference. It’s an average of 10 metrics. MN does very well due to infrastructure and quality of life. They boast a great airport that was great before him thanks to KLM NWA now Delta. I flew it constantly. Really nice. Also good ports and rail. All previous to TW. Rail are private development. Quality of life metrics have to do with green space and recreation (usually like sq. ft or acre to person). MN has always been a leader. You know 10,000 lakes? Access to capital has to due greatly w/private lending. Again pre-TW. So if you remove the first 2 which he has nothing to do w/unless you think he was Paul Bunyan his numbers are worse.

Now look at the actual economy-based metrics. 35th in cost of doing business. Education is dropping despite spending (used to be much higher) . Average on others but dropping.

Here is better economic data. Economic growth almost half of national average. Yuck.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/minnesotas-economy-under-walz-five-charts-2024-08-07/
 
Please leave this board. Only need to discuss Purdue sports.
Don’t discuss sports in general, just men’s basketball mostly and not much to discuss now. This is an interesting study on humanity and offers some entertainment. I get tired of watching Art Linkletter “children say the darndest things” reruns.
 
You may not have said those things but that is what your party is for.

So let me get this straight….no one under 25 pays for anything (because college is free, just take out a loan). And no one over 65 pays for anything because SS.

Oh, and the kickers….no one pays for healthcare and illegal immigrants get free everything until they get a job, which the government doesn’t allow.

And people wonder where inflation comes from because the “Trump tax cuts” didn’t leave enough money in the government to pay for the Democrats wish lists above.
I never said which party I aligned with, so that invalidates whatever gibberish you listed after that. I like and dislike things both parties have done. I have voted democrat and republican in the past.

See, that’s the problem with you and the others on here. Someone disagrees with you and you lump them into one linear line of thinking. We probably have more in common than not ( well aside from your conspiracy theory nonsense). Until you and some others on here can accept that having a difference of opinion doesn’t mean someone is wrong (as long as that difference is rooted in reality, because that definitely needs to be said on here), you’re left with nothing more than your tired checklist of things to be big mad about but didn’t know you were supposed to be mad about until someone told you.
 
, you’re left with nothing more than your tired checklist of things to be big mad about but didn’t know you were supposed to be mad about until someone told you.
Do you think people had to be told to be mad about the 20% cost increase they see at the grocery store?

Or how about the squeezing of resources from people from other countries being allowed to flood into the nation, along with child, sex and drug trafficking?

Or how about the appeasement of Iran, which is now reported to be moving ahead with its nuclear program since it is flush with funds thanks to the Biden/Harris admin?

Do you think any of these are worth taxpayers being mad about?
 
I never said which party I aligned with, so that invalidates whatever gibberish you listed after that. I like and dislike things both parties have done. I have voted democrat and republican in the past.

See, that’s the problem with you and the others on here. Someone disagrees with you and you lump them into one linear line of thinking. We probably have more in common than not ( well aside from your conspiracy theory nonsense). Until you and some others on here can accept that having a difference of opinion doesn’t mean someone is wrong (as long as that difference is rooted in reality, because that definitely needs to be said on here), you’re left with nothing more than your tired checklist of things to be big mad about but didn’t know you were supposed to be mad about until someone told you.
Yet you do the exact same thing. People disagree with you and they are Trump ciphers and rubes. Trying to argue that TW is a centrist can only be done if you are a person of the left because his policies seem moderate to you. My suggestion is own it and be proud. Giving free college tuition to illegal immigrants is not an 80/20 issue.

Also. When anyone declares “republicans had a chance to help immigration but killed the bill” w/o also acknowledging that several months before HR2 was passed and yet never got a vote due to Chucky not bringing to the floor tells me about their news sources. I guarantee you that 90% of the center right/rubes on this board are aware of that. Never should anybody mention the Senate bill getting blocked without FIRST acknowledging the same thing happened months prior to a better bill.

Edit: you get around to reading HR2? The bill I introduced you to? I read it waaaay back in May 2023. 8 months BEFORE I read the Senate bill.
 
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Do you think people had to be told to be mad about the 20% cost increase they see at the grocery store?

Or how about the squeezing of resources from people from other countries being allowed to flood into the nation, along with child, sex and drug trafficking?

Or how about the appeasement of Iran, which is now reported to be moving ahead with its nuclear program since it is flush with funds thanks to the Biden/Harris admin?

Do you think any of these are worth taxpayers being mad about?
It doesn't take much investigation to be aware of the disaster. I'm trying to remember if any president has ever caused as much security damage to the USA as Biden/Harris which will be more costly in a decade or two if not corrected.
Iran is already involved in the election and we know they don't want Trump

Microsoft Says US Presidential Campaign Targeted by Iran-Backed Hackers​

The Trump campaign said it had been hacked, and a Microsoft report reveals an Iran-backed group targeted a high-ranking presidential campaign official.
Microsoft’s cyber threat assessment unit said on Aug. 9 that a high-ranking official on a U.S. presidential campaign had been hacked by an Iran-backed group, and the campaign of former President Donald Trump later revealed that it had been the target of a cyberattack, linking the breach to “foreign sources hostile to the United States.”

The report from the Microsoft Threat Analysis Center (MTAC) indicates that an Iranian group connected to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, called Mint Sandstorm, sent a spear phishing email in June to a high-ranking official on a presidential campaign from a compromised email account belonging to a former senior campaign adviser.
“Mint Sandstorm similarly targeted a presidential campaign in May and June 2020 five to six months ahead of the last U.S. presidential election,” MTAC said, adding that the same group also tried but failed to breach an account belonging to a former presidential candidate.

While no details were released on the official’s identity, Microsoft’s threat assessment team said that the Iranian-linked breaches related to increasing attempts to influence the U.S. presidential election in November.

“This recent cyber-enabled influence activity arises from a combination of actors which are conducting initial cyber reconnaissance and seeding online personas and websites into the information space,” according to the report.

Following the report’s release, the Trump 2024 presidential campaign confirmed that it had been the target of a cyberattack in which campaign documents were stolen.

he breach, which Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung told Politico on Aug. 10 has been attributed to “foreign sources hostile to the United States,” marks a significant development in the area of foreign interference in U.S. elections as the race for the White House heats up.
Politico reported that, on July 22, it began receiving emails from an anonymous source using the alias “Robert.” The emails reportedly contained internal documents from the Trump campaign, including a 271-page research dossier on Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), who was vetted as a potential vice presidential nominee and later chosen as Trump’s running mate.

Cheung pointed to the Microsoft report and its finding that Iranian hackers had broken into the account of a high-ranking official on the U.S. presidential campaign as evidence of involvement of a foreign hostile power in the Trump campaign breach.
“These documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the United States, intended to interfere with the 2024 election and sow chaos throughout our democratic process,” Cheung told the outlet.

He also linked the timing of the breach to reports of Iranian plots against Trump, who remains a target of Iranian hostility after ordering the 2020 assassination of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.

Cheung, who didn’t immediately respond to a request from The Epoch Times for more details of the development, declined to tell Politico whether the Trump campaign had contacted law enforcement regarding the breach.

U.S. intelligence officials recently stated that Iran had been hard at work sowing political discord in the United States via the use of clandestine or ghost social media accounts. Iran has denied that such practices are taking place and said that any actions against the United States are purely defensive and don’t involve cyberattacks.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a statement in July confirming that Iranian groups had targeted the U.S. political campaign, specifically that of Trump, to influence the November election.
The U.S. intelligence community “has observed Tehran working to influence the presidential election, probably because Iranian leaders want to avoid an outcome they perceive would increase tensions with the United States,” the statement reads.

Microsoft’s report said that the hackers’ activity also covered a wider scope, including gaining intelligence on U.S. political campaigns, which allowed Iranian groups to target political swing states in the United States.

The report also stated that a previous breach involving a county official, which took place in May, was part of a wider “password spray operation.” This type of operation involves the use of common or leaked passwords, which hackers use on multiple accounts until they find a match and break into one.

The report confirmed that no other accounts were compromised through the breach and that all other targeted officials were notified of the cyberattack.
 
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The President is not a legislator - the President is the leader of the nation and the Executive Branch.

No President has done a worse job leading, setting the tone for the nation, and supporting and encouraging democracy and belief in our institutions than Donald Trump. He's not as bad as say, Buchanan on policy, but he maxed out on being a terrible leader, to the point where, like Buchanan, he inspired an insurrection on the union. And worse than Buchanan, Trump actually encouraged that insurrection. He also encouraged open hostilities and divisions between Americans and did so much to explode the proliferation of conspiracy theories and distrust. He constantly denigrated our nation and our leaders, and uses ethnic and religious categories to amplify his politics.

You all sarcastically dismiss him as at worst a mean Tweeter, but that is the President/Republican nominee saying those things. People listen to someone in that pivotal role, and the worst elements of our nation are emboldened and inspired by the President/Republican nominee when that is who is saying those things.
So who stopped the insurrection?

I never said which party I aligned with, so that invalidates whatever gibberish you listed after that. I like and dislike things both parties have done. I have voted democrat and republican in the past.

See, that’s the problem with you and the others on here. Someone disagrees with you and you lump them into one linear line of thinking. We probably have more in common than not ( well aside from your conspiracy theory nonsense). Until you and some others on here can accept that having a difference of opinion doesn’t mean someone is wrong (as long as that difference is rooted in reality, because that definitely needs to be said on here), you’re left with nothing more than your tired checklist of things to be big mad about but didn’t know you were supposed to be mad about until someone told you.
so why not disclose which party or candidate that you support. No keep being a chameleon, who only argues with conservatives and doesn’t argue with the resident liberals.

Pretty easy to critic when you sit on the sidelines
 
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So who stopped the insurrection?

I’d argue that in 2020 America was still the leading economy in the world. Today that is not the case

so why not disclose which party or candidate that you support. No keep being a chameleon, who only argues with conservatives and doesn’t argue with the resident liberals.

Pretty easy to critic when you sit on the sidelines
do some people still call jan 6 an insurrection?
 
do some people still call jan 6 an insurrection?
52% of America and pretty everyone in MSM. I keep trying to understand how it was stopped. I assume there must have been some military action of some sort. Missing video is in Pelosi’s safe, only to be seen by MSM and Democrat elites so they can verbalize for their minions.
 
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