Want your thoughts on an honest question regarding Tom Allen
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I can’t stop reading this post…needed a good laugh this Friday morning.
this thread is a summation of what has been wrong with this forum.
although, credit @TwinDegrees2 . he nailed it.
I can’t wait for the Old Oaken Bucket game in a few weeks.
True. And your original comment did suggest that IU would likely take a step backwards, so there's that.
But rather than just a step, IUFB took a running leap backwards and threw themselves into the cellar.
It wasnt sustainable.
Still think we should wait to see us actually win the Bucket back before we start gloating here.
It didn't take Kreskin to see that IU was in over their heads with expectations for this season starting with being ranked in the top ten in places. To what degree they have fallen short remains to be seen.
It didn't take Kreskin to see that IU was in over their heads with expectations for this season starting with being ranked in the top ten in places. To what degree they have fallen short remains to be seen.
That's the point I've been trying to make on the IU board since the 2020 season started. An offense hitting HRs with deep passes and a defense that averages 3 TOs a game is everything falling into place EXACTLY as needed to win games.
I didn't expect IU to give away games to MSU, Cinci, & MD this year the way they have, but I surely didn't expect everything to go wrong as it has.
I still think IU is better than their record, and I think most of the problems stem from poor OL & QB play all year with key injuries playing some level of a factor on defense more recently. But certainly a disappointment. I think IU SHOULD be at 4-5 or 5-4 right now, which would have been right in line with a good season. And anyone confidently predicting IU at 11-1 or 10-2 this year let the number of Ws last year cloud their vision of the product on the field.
They may have found their next starting QB, and recruited very well in 2021, along with some transfers, and probably recruiting at the highest level the program has ever recruited so far in 2022.
https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2022-Football/Commits/
I’m not an Indiana fan, but they’re setting up to be competitive in 2022 and 2023.
You can see how one good season can help recruiting at Indiana, Minnesota and even Purdue. I hope this season, and all the media attention Purdue and Brohm are getting (Sportscenter, Jim Rome, nationally televised games, etc) will pay off in recruiting to close out the 2022 class and also boost the 2023 class.
Your hatred for all things Brohm make me suspicious of what you are searching for? Allen has recruited very well to IU. Last year may have been a fluke, but he did engineer the season that they had. With the players he has recruited, I believe it will take him more time to make IU successful as a program. He appears to be headed in the right direction. IU fans are quick to replace coaches. This has proven to be a losing strategy to this point.
He engineered COVID? He is headed in the right direction (winless in the conference)?
IU will never be truly successful as a program...better than it had been? Perhaps, but, they will never be a factor (or consistent one) in the B1G East.
(one minor adjustment)
It's the B1G, not just the East.
Every time they whine about being in the B1G East it's pure comedy. They struggle every year to beat the B1G West teams. Hells bells, even through our struggles over the past 4 years we're 2-1 against them, and it's not looking better form them anytime soon.
IU won in the Covid year with no fans and historically bad PSU and Michigan teams. This year they have to play on the road in front of fans. Big difference.
Injuries happen to every team every season.
And yeah, in other posts I've stated I'm very happy with how the season has gone. Apparently you haven't been here...
When you lose you’re starting qb who is an all big ten candidate, you tend to be screwed.
Too many of their fans were highly dismissive of our NUMEROUS injuries to key players at multiple positions a couple of years ago, when they barely beat us in double OT.
Heck, even some of our own "fans" were dismissive of our circumstances, and bellowed on about "making excuses".
I'm not inclined to give them much grace on the topic.
I get what youre saying, but if you lose the center of youre offense, highly unlikely you will overcome it. Its like when we lost Orton in 2004. We didnt really do well without him.
No "buts". My point remains. And, we didn't just "lose the center of (our) offense".
I'm still not inclined to extend any grace.
He hasn’t been that great especially his record vs winning teams but when you’re the coach at IU, a historically bad program, you’re playing with house money. The expectations are low so any taste of success and he’s seen as good. He is recruiting good for them and put together decent back to back seasons so he’ll be put on a pedestal. So by IU standards he’s probably alright.
A lot of times we need to see a season play out to know certain things. Going into this year I think it was logical to think Allen had done well and Indiana would do well.
the takeaway now has to be that Deboer had a lot more to do with their success than I thought.
I agree and I hope DeBoer does not end up being an HC in the B1G.
Why would he? He’s a West Coast guy - he’ll end up in the Pac12 if he goes job hunting.
That would be great. I don't mind facing him in the Rose Bowl! If I were USC's AD, DeBoer is who I would hire. He can even make Indinia look good.
Holy cow, injuries derailed their season? Then what the hell did they do to us? We had more significant injuries than they did, by a long shot! Especially when you take into consideration that almost our entire roof of substitutes and the two deep on the offensive line had to leave football because of injuries…duh
Wait what? Hell no I’m talking about this year. We’ve had a ton of injuries think about it? At one point we were at second string running back and to walk on‘s? Our top two tight ends were out with injury. We have a bloodletting at wide receiver. How many people on the offensive line have we lost before training camp started? Perhaps I’m the only one that noticed because of maybe I live in Ohio and I’m not as close to the action. Probably
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