Throw some names for coaches next year….

[Bippus33]

Plus we have a great volleyball team, I heard he likes women volleyball players

Especially those that like bike rides!!!

 

[Bippus33]

Chesney...14 yrs coaching experience...only making 550 k a yr...2nd time watching Jmu play ...innovative offense...Jmu ain't skipping a beat with Cignetti gone. Been a winner every where he's coached.

I'll buy that!

 

[Bippus33]

Heard they are maybe going to be looking at both Heltons. Tyson again and this time Clay. Not sure how I feel about that

A big No!!

 

[HUD628]

I'll buy that!

Chesney is certainly interesting, he has done a lot of winning as a head coach and still is relatively young and seems like he could recruit. But he’s not an offensive guy so that rules him out according to everyone here

 

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Brent Vigen - HC Montana State. Longtime offensive coordinator for Craig Bohl at NDSU & WYO. Current salary around 215k.

Brent Vigen - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Montana State University Athletics

Brent Vigen, the son of a small-town football coach who has enjoyed championship success throughout his career as a player and coach, became Montana State’s 33rd

msubobcats.com

I like Brent Vigen. Spent his whole life in North Dakota, so a little adversity won’t scare him off.

Brent Vigen - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Montana State University Athletics

Brent Vigen, the son of a small-town football coach who has enjoyed championship success throughout his career as a player and coach, became Montana State’s 33rd

msubobcats.com

 

[bonefish1]

I like Brent Vigen. Spent his whole life in North Dakota, so a little adversity won’t scare him off.

Brent Vigen - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Montana State University Athletics

Brent Vigen, the son of a small-town football coach who has enjoyed championship success throughout his career as a player and coach, became Montana State’s 33rd

msubobcats.com

I don't see these guys going into FL and TX and connecting with the type of talent we need at the skill positions. I can't imagine the recruiting battles in North Dakota are very intense.

 

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I don't see these guys going into FL and TX and connecting with the type of talent we need at the skill positions. I can't imagine the recruiting battles in North Dakota are very intense.

Recruiting battles = bidding wars. It’s more about who can maximize the players we can afford than who is the best “recruiter”.

 

[tenwest]

Exactly. I like coaches who have connections in FL/TX. I can remember when Purdue had a lot of success with 3-stars from the “football belt”.
I remember the old saying that a 3-star recruit from Florida is equal to a 4-star recruit from Indiana.
🚂

 

[bonefish1]

Recruiting battles = bidding wars. It’s more about who can maximize the players we can afford than who is the best “recruiter”.

It's also about who can help get a guy to the next level. Not a lot of that going on at Montana or in the Dakotas. Those may be winning programs with strong traditions, etc, but they're not in the same game as a P5 program from any aspect.

 

[bonefish1]

Exactly. I like coaches who have connections in FL/TX. I can remember when Purdue had a lot of success with 3-stars from the “football belt”.
I remember the old saying that a 3-star recruit from Florida is equal to a 4-star recruit from Indiana.
🚂

I'll take guys at Purdue all day long who are just a shy below being recruited by FL, FSU, UM, TX, TAM, etc. or those teams liked them but didn't have a spot.

 

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It's also about who can help get a guy to the next level. Not a lot of that going on at Montana or in the Dakotas. Those may be winning programs with strong traditions, etc, but they're not in the same game as a P5 program from any aspect.

Ever heard of Chris Kleiman?

 

[Dreambig74]

I know this because I have family members from Auburn. They hired the Boise State HC. He never had to recruit at Boise, Was not ready for the recruiting wars in the SEC. So he was gone after 2 years. So I would be leery of that type of background.

 

[TipofMittBoiler]

I like Brent Vigen. Spent his whole life in North Dakota, so a little adversity won’t scare him off.

Brent Vigen - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Montana State University Athletics

Brent Vigen, the son of a small-town football coach who has enjoyed championship success throughout his career as a player and coach, became Montana State’s 33rd

msubobcats.com

Helped build NDSU into the powerhouse/dynasty they are. Offensive coach currently averaging 11 wins per/yr. Developed a guy named Josh Allen. Has a system and recruits to it. But...

FCS to BIG is a huge jump. Not impossible, but probably needs to prove it at a FBS school before a job like Purdue. Rumored to be in the running for the Fresno State job.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Helped build NDSU into the powerhouse/dynasty they are. Offensive coach currently averaging 11 wins per/yr. Developed a guy named Josh Allen. Has a system and recruits to it. But...

FCS to BIG is a huge jump. Not impossible, but probably needs to prove it at a FBS school before a job like Purdue. Rumored to be in the running for the Fresno State job.

Is that any bigger jump than what Cignetti made? If our NIL situation is as dire as Walters claims, we may need a “do more with less” guy.

 

[mdclaxton]

Helped build NDSU into the powerhouse/dynasty they are. Offensive coach currently averaging 11 wins per/yr. Developed a guy named Josh Allen. Has a system and recruits to it. But...

FCS to BIG is a huge jump. Not impossible, but probably needs to prove it at a FBS school before a job like Purdue. Rumored to be in the running for the Fresno State job.

It is a huge jump, but probably not as big of a gamble as hiring a guy whose resume consisted of 3-4 years as a DC at Missouri and Illinois.

 

[TipofMittBoiler]

Is that any bigger jump than what Cignetti made? If our NIL situation is as dire as Walters claims, we may need a “do more with less” guy.

It is a huge jump, but probably not as big of a gamble as hiring a guy whose resume consisted of 3-4 years as a DC at Missouri and Illinois.

It's not, but 13 years versus 4 as HC is notable. Agree that we need a "do more with less" guy. I'd value someone who has built up a program, sustained it, and develops players instead of trying to outbid others constantly. If Purdue is at the low end of the BIG in NIL, and it's going to stay there, then get a coach that values toughness, discipline and can actually identify talent that fits their system. I like Vigen and Monken for this reason. Every hire is a gamble, but the last Purdue hire was inexcusable from an AD who remarked at his last press conference about "being in the business for 40 years" or something alike.

 

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It's not, but 13 years versus 4 as HC is notable. Agree that we need a "do more with less" guy. I'd value someone who has built up a program, sustained it, and develops players instead of trying to outbid others constantly. If Purdue is at the low end of the BIG in NIL, and it's going to stay there, then get a coach that values toughness, discipline and can actually identify talent that fits their system. I like Vigen and Monken for this reason. Every hire is a gamble, but the last Purdue hire was inexcusable from an AD who remarked at his last press conference about "being in the business for 40 years" or something alike.

Agree with all. The Walters hire seemed like the opposite of what might work, to anyone who’s followed the program for 40-50 years.