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There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.
 
Lmao we just lost to two top ten teams. Controlled both games and got beat by last second shots .

I hate this board , this is one of the more irrational posts I’ve seen.


Btw where were you during the record winning streak ?

This is nothing against you or your post Jadeerza.

But us old people on this board all feel like, deja vu, we've all seen this too many times before.

We have a lead against a good team, and then we lose within the last 5 seconds of the game. What is it about Purdue and those last 5 seconds? Can we call a time out or switch our personnel? We play just good enough to lose. and just like past history, an 80% FT shooter misses the first of a one and one FT in the final seconds.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing good enough to lose. I'm tired of our history of quality losses. Rick Mount and Purdue almost beat UCLA in a game before the tournament final in 63 or 64 or 65. I don't recall the exact year but the fact is, they lost.

You cant tell me the players overlooked or were not fired up for this game. or still had the flu. This was the game they pointed to all season long as that statement game - beating MSU at their house. this was the game all the elite recruits and for that matter NBA scouts were watching. Someday we may win games like this. history dictates that championship teams find a way to win when their best players are having a bad day. and that's what MSU did today.

No, we did not lay an egg. We didn't lay an egg against OSU either. and that's what hurts the most. I could accept being blown away. but opportunity knocked, and we had a chance to win both games. but the ghosts of Purdue past came out in both games in the last 5 seconds and decided that we would lose. We can't prevent a quality team from making that last second shot !!!

Forget that Arizona win. We played that game against Arizona without their starting guard Alkins who averages 29 minutes and 13 points. and it was only Ayton's 6th collegiate game. they are a different team now. Unfortunately, we're not. We're eh same team that lost to Tennessee.

We're not a bad team. We're just who we thought we were. I have a new roof, so I'm not worried about the sky falling down.
 
This is nothing against you or your post Jadeerza.

But us old people on this board all feel like, deja vu, we've all seen this too many times before.

We have a lead against a good team, and then we lose within the last 5 seconds of the game. What is it about Purdue and those last 5 seconds? Can we call a time out or switch our personnel? We play just good enough to lose. and just like past history, an 80% FT shooter misses the first of a one and one FT in the final seconds.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing good enough to lose. I'm tired of our history of quality losses. Rick Mount and Purdue almost beat UCLA in a game before the tournament final in 63 or 64 or 65. I don't recall the exact year but the fact is, they lost.

You cant tell me the players overlooked or were not fired up for this game. or still had the flu. This was the game they pointed to all season long as that statement game - beating MSU at their house. this was the game all the elite recruits and for that matter NBA scouts were watching. Someday we may win games like this. history dictates that championship teams find a way to win when their best players are having a bad day. and that's what MSU did today.

No, we did not lay an egg. We didn't lay an egg against OSU either. and that's what hurts the most. I could accept being blown away. but opportunity knocked, and we had a chance to win both games. but the ghosts of Purdue past came out in both games in the last 5 seconds and decided that we would lose. We can't prevent a quality team from making that last second shot !!!

Forget that Arizona win. We played that game against Arizona without their starting guard Alkins who averages 29 minutes and 13 points. and it was only Ayton's 6th collegiate game. they are a different team now. Unfortunately, we're not. We're eh same team that lost to Tennessee.

We're not a bad team. We're just who we thought we were. I have a new roof, so I'm not worried about the sky falling down.

All you "old" people need to sack up then......or root for another team if you are so sick of it.
 
There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.
truly a clown....
...you are who we thought you were.
 
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Finish the season strong and maybe Purdue can be one of those teams of which things open up for them in the tournament while getting hot at the right time. It has happened in the past for other teams and could happen for Purdue this season. We are not as dominant as I thought we were 4 games ago, but we are certainly capable of winning 6 games in a row in the NCAA tournament.
 
There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.

Yes a possible 3 seed and sweet 16 appearance with no NBA talent on a good overall team. WOW just an awful program... You people are amusing. You bought into stupid media bs about this being the year etc... This is a good team. That was a good entertaining game. Why don't you sit back and enjoy the rest of the season and the NCAA Tournament and quit whining. I really wish Painter would take another coaching job somewhere so you fans can see what would happen to the Purdue program.
 
FFS. Purdue lost on last second shots in both games... games against a team (on the road) that should be #1 next week, and another team that will likely be top 10. Vince is still recouping and being guarded by our opponents' best. Dakota's been D-ing up against some of the top players in the country.

Virginia lost at home against Virginia Tech. Villanova lost at home to St. John's. Kansas just lost to Baylor. Xavier should have lost to Creighton were it not for a BS foul call. Auburn lost at home against TAMU.

Kentucky, with all the one-and-dones won't even be ranked next week because they keep losing.

Purdue will be fine. Will get a 2 or 3 seed, most likely, and still has a very legitimate shot at the FF.
 
There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.
I’m not sure you are a betting person — but I’ll lay even money that Purdue is an elite eight team, at the very least. The OSU loss was a fluke and MSU had the ball for the last possession and Bridges made a crazy shot. I’m a Spartan fan, but IMHO, Purdue is the favorite to win the BIG tourney on a neutral court.
 
For those of you thinking we are getting a 2 seed, I just don't think so. We always get the short end of the stick come selection Sunday as it is. If we win out and recover to win the BTT, then a #2 seed could happen, but that is a lot of if's to make it happen. If we win out and then make it to the final of the BTT, then I think its a 3 seed. Do any worse than that, we will probably do no better than a #4 seed. Most likely we drop out of the top 10 this week which puts even a #3 seed as highly questionable.
 
For those of you thinking we are getting a 2 seed, I just don't think so. We always get the short end of the stick come selection Sunday as it is. If we win out and recover to win the BTT, then a #2 seed could happen, but that is a lot of if's to make it happen. If we win out and then make it to the final of the BTT, then I think its a 3 seed. Do any worse than that, we will probably do no better than a #4 seed. Most likely we drop out of the top 10 this week which puts even a #3 seed as highly questionable.
You guys have less perspective than the pussies on our board who don’t follow college basketball. This week, four of the top five teams LOST and Xavier should have lost. Virginia looked downright awful today. Purdue is a lock for a two seed and still could get a one. Guess what - today’s line was MSU minus 3. We were favored to win.

The NCAA tourney is all about match-ups and not many teams are going to match-up well against Purdue.
 
You guys have less perspective than the pussies on our board who don’t follow college basketball. This week, four of the top five teams LOST and Xavier should have lost. Virginia looked downright awful today. Purdue is a lock for a two seed and still could get a one. Guess what - today’s line was MSU minus 3. We were favored to win.

The NCAA tourney is all about match-ups and not many teams are going to match-up well against Purdue.
MSU minus 3 means MSU was favored to win by 3
 
There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.
RIP Dennis Green.
 
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Yes a possible 3 seed and sweet 16 appearance with no NBA talent on a good overall team. WOW just an awful program... You people are amusing. You bought into stupid media bs about this being the year etc... This is a good team. That was a good entertaining game. Why don't you sit back and enjoy the rest of the season and the NCAA Tournament and quit whining. I really wish Painter would take another coaching job somewhere so you fans can see what would happen to the Purdue program.

I really wish he would too. I would trade above average for a chance at greatness/risk of being below average in a heartbeat.
 
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Lmao we just lost to two top ten teams. Controlled both games and got beat by last second shots .

I hate this board , this is one of the more irrational posts I’ve seen.


Btw where were you during the record winning streak ?

Controlled the game, lol. Atlanta controlled most of the game in the Super Bowl last year. That earned them what exactly?

And please name what is irrational about this post? That Painter is a slightly above average coach? It is irrational to think otherwise based on his 12 year track record.
 
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Penn State, Rutgers, Iowa, Nebraska, northwestern
The only big ten schools who haven’t been to the final four since our last visit in 1980

This is why it’s frustrating
 
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... Guess what - today’s line was MSU minus 3. We were favored to win.

The NCAA tourney is all about match-ups and not many teams are going to match-up well against Purdue.

MSU minus 3 means MSU was favored to win by 3
Uhhhh.... isn't that what he said?
DC Sparty = MSU fan
 
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You guys have less perspective than the pussies on our board who don’t follow college basketball. This week, four of the top five teams LOST and Xavier should have lost. Virginia looked downright awful today. Purdue is a lock for a two seed and still could get a one. Guess what - today’s line was MSU minus 3. We were favored to win.

The NCAA tourney is all about match-ups and not many teams are going to match-up well against Purdue.
I am not saying we don't deserve a #2 seed, but I just don't think the committee will be kind to us, they rarely are. And dude we lost twice this week, we will be lucky to be in the top 10 come Monday.
 
There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year. We very likely lost the B1G, which is pretty disappointing given our talent and senior laden team and mediocre B1G. I would imagine we are looking at 2-3 seed territory depending on what happens the rest of the way, but our resume is weak with very few good wins. A 4 seed is not out of the question if some other teams get hot and we lose another in the B1G tournament or even worse, before then. A "meh" win over a now pretty good AZ team that lost it's 3rd game in 3 days will not impress the committee, and it is easily our best. Butler, Louisville, Michigan x2... not bad, but far from marquee wins. We had 2 really good chances to win this week and we blew them.

Feels like a typical Painter year.

Yup they are who we thought they were.

One of the top teams in the country and a legit FF squad
 
Yup they are who we thought they were.

One of the top teams in the country and a legit FF squad

Yes, clearly that is the takeaway this week. We play the 2 toughest games of the year and come away 0-2. And don't tell me Arizona when they came into game #3 on day 3 after losing 2 in 2 days.
 
Lmao we just lost to two top ten teams. Controlled both games and got beat by last second shots .

I hate this board , this is one of the more irrational posts I’ve seen.


Btw where were you during the record winning streak ?


This board does suck, but there is room here for honest criticism. Obviously, the second half, we tried to extensively go through Haas. As much as I love him, I think this is a mistake. For one, it's to much pressure on him. Inside play opens up the 3's, but it can work the other way around too. It's fine if he get's it in the flow of the offense, but guys just standing around trying to feed him the ball isn't going to work. Even when he's one on one. We have to keep everyone involved, at all times.
 
Yes, clearly that is the takeaway this week. We play the 2 toughest games of the year and come away 0-2. And don't tell me Arizona when they came into game #3 on day 3 after losing 2 in 2 days.
That’s not a takeaway just a fact.

Looking forward to the last month of the season.
 
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This is nothing against you or your post Jadeerza.

But us old people on this board all feel like, deja vu, we've all seen this too many times before.

We have a lead against a good team, and then we lose within the last 5 seconds of the game. What is it about Purdue and those last 5 seconds? Can we call a time out or switch our personnel? We play just good enough to lose. and just like past history, an 80% FT shooter misses the first of a one and one FT in the final seconds.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing good enough to lose. I'm tired of our history of quality losses. Rick Mount and Purdue almost beat UCLA in a game before the tournament final in 63 or 64 or 65. I don't recall the exact year but the fact is, they lost.

You cant tell me the players overlooked or were not fired up for this game. or still had the flu. This was the game they pointed to all season long as that statement game - beating MSU at their house. this was the game all the elite recruits and for that matter NBA scouts were watching. Someday we may win games like this. history dictates that championship teams find a way to win when their best players are having a bad day. and that's what MSU did today.

No, we did not lay an egg. We didn't lay an egg against OSU either. and that's what hurts the most. I could accept being blown away. but opportunity knocked, and we had a chance to win both games. but the ghosts of Purdue past came out in both games in the last 5 seconds and decided that we would lose. We can't prevent a quality team from making that last second shot !!!

Forget that Arizona win. We played that game against Arizona without their starting guard Alkins who averages 29 minutes and 13 points. and it was only Ayton's 6th collegiate game. they are a different team now. Unfortunately, we're not. We're eh same team that lost to Tennessee.

We're not a bad team. We're just who we thought we were. I have a new roof, so I'm not worried about the sky falling down.

I told my son not to be upset because in 40 years as a Purdue fan this is what you see. They get to a legitimate point where you can make the point that they are not getting the respect they deserve and then every Purdue team I have watched has squandered that by letting the defining game slip away. It’s like a damn curse,
 
This is nothing against you or your post Jadeerza.

But us old people on this board all feel like, deja vu, we've all seen this too many times before.

We have a lead against a good team, and then we lose within the last 5 seconds of the game. What is it about Purdue and those last 5 seconds? Can we call a time out or switch our personnel? We play just good enough to lose. and just like past history, an 80% FT shooter misses the first of a one and one FT in the final seconds.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing good enough to lose. I'm tired of our history of quality losses. Rick Mount and Purdue almost beat UCLA in a game before the tournament final in 63 or 64 or 65. I don't recall the exact year but the fact is, they lost.

You cant tell me the players overlooked or were not fired up for this game. or still had the flu. This was the game they pointed to all season long as that statement game - beating MSU at their house. this was the game all the elite recruits and for that matter NBA scouts were watching. Someday we may win games like this. history dictates that championship teams find a way to win when their best players are having a bad day. and that's what MSU did today.

No, we did not lay an egg. We didn't lay an egg against OSU either. and that's what hurts the most. I could accept being blown away. but opportunity knocked, and we had a chance to win both games. but the ghosts of Purdue past came out in both games in the last 5 seconds and decided that we would lose. We can't prevent a quality team from making that last second shot !!!

Forget that Arizona win. We played that game against Arizona without their starting guard Alkins who averages 29 minutes and 13 points. and it was only Ayton's 6th collegiate game. they are a different team now. Unfortunately, we're not. We're eh same team that lost to Tennessee.

We're not a bad team. We're just who we thought we were. I have a new roof, so I'm not worried about the sky falling down.
You would rather we get blown out than lose a one possession game in the final seconds against two top rated teams? Yet, to you, some Purdue ghosts from the past got in the way, and somehow that seems reasonable to you?
I don’t know if this is your first B1G season, but if you have seen half the games you claim, then you know games in conference are tough and especially playing the top teams with a bullseye on your back.
Ghosts from the past? I never thought I would see a Purdue grad use voodoo tinfoil hat logic and consider it reasonable as support for an argument.
 
Hey who cares about these stupid seedings????? Do you understand their are upsets in the tournament? You appreciate the fact you are in the tournament and you play the teams you are designated to play. Once again may I remind anyone on here that IF YOU MAKE THE TOURNAMENT. You have had a successful season. You have a lottery pick in the Big Dance.

People over at Hammer and Rails want Cuonzo Martin. LOL WTF is wrong with you fans. You are letting the fact Purdue has not been to Final 4 since 1980 warp your mind. The players on Purdue have only been there the last 4 years. BTW Purdue won Big 10 last year and so I guess Painter can win big games right. He had a NBA player too last year on his roster. Purdue has lost 2 games with NBA talent making big shots, You congratulate them and move on...

I work for a media company. This angst over these 2 losses is about Purdue fans buying into this stupid media crap about this BEING THE YEAR etc... If Purdue wins out rest season no shame in losing these 2 games. Just stupidity. I am done posting on here rest of season.
 
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Hey who cares about these stupid seedings????? Do you understand their are upsets in the tournament? You appreciate the fact you are in the tournament and you play the teams you are designated to play. Once again may I remind anyone on here that IF YOU MAKE THE TOURNAMENT. You have had a successful season. You have a lottery pick in the Big Dance.

People over at Hammer and Rails want Cuonzo Martin. LOL WTF is wrong with you fans. You are letting the fact Purdue has not been to Final 4 since 1980 warp your mind. The players on Purdue have only been there the last 4 years. BTW Purdue won Big 10 last year and so I guess Painter can win big games right. He had a NBA player too last year on his roster. Purdue has lost 2 games with NBA talent making big shots, You congratulate them and move on...

I work for a media company. This angst over these 2 losses is about Purdue fans buying into this stupid media crap about this BEING THE YEAR etc... If Purdue wins out rest season no shame in losing these 2 games. Just stupidity. I am done posting on here rest of season.

Hammer and rails is a known douchebag site.
 
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There is time to turn it around, but this is a Painter team and I don't see us going further than the S16 at best... like every other year.
So let me get this right, you are complaining because it's a "typical" year which may include a S16 run? You do realize that puts the program in a very small group who consistently make it that far right?

I just don't get some of you. I understand being upset at the losses but post like these just make no sense whatsoever. No "mediocre" coach has the type of success Painter does and that my friend is a fact.

I mean you even have other people from other boards coming here and pointing out the silliness in posts like these. Think about that for a moment because John Wooden isn't coming through those doors to coach us as that is only one that would satisfy you.

There is no perfect coach out there and certainly the ones that would be considered better than Painter in an overall picture, are not going to come to Purdue. You all need to realize that just because Painter doesn't to things the way YOU think they should be, doesn't make him a bad coach. In fact pretty much every description of him lists him as a GREAT coach outside of this forum and the numbers and history support that.

You need to do some personal reflection because you are letting your disdain for a man that has no real impact on your life, cloud your very judgement which makes you post silly things like this. You aren't alone in that of course and thankfully outside of this forum, most understand that Painter is going to be here for a LONG time and that is a GREAT thing for us.
 
This is nothing against you or your post Jadeerza.

But us old people on this board all feel like, deja vu, we've all seen this too many times before.

We have a lead against a good team, and then we lose within the last 5 seconds of the game. What is it about Purdue and those last 5 seconds? Can we call a time out or switch our personnel? We play just good enough to lose. and just like past history, an 80% FT shooter misses the first of a one and one FT in the final seconds.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing good enough to lose. I'm tired of our history of quality losses. Rick Mount and Purdue almost beat UCLA in a game before the tournament final in 63 or 64 or 65. I don't recall the exact year but the fact is, they lost.

You cant tell me the players overlooked or were not fired up for this game. or still had the flu. This was the game they pointed to all season long as that statement game - beating MSU at their house. this was the game all the elite recruits and for that matter NBA scouts were watching. Someday we may win games like this. history dictates that championship teams find a way to win when their best players are having a bad day. and that's what MSU did today.

No, we did not lay an egg. We didn't lay an egg against OSU either. and that's what hurts the most. I could accept being blown away. but opportunity knocked, and we had a chance to win both games. but the ghosts of Purdue past came out in both games in the last 5 seconds and decided that we would lose. We can't prevent a quality team from making that last second shot !!!

Forget that Arizona win. We played that game against Arizona without their starting guard Alkins who averages 29 minutes and 13 points. and it was only Ayton's 6th collegiate game. they are a different team now. Unfortunately, we're not. We're eh same team that lost to Tennessee.

We're not a bad team. We're just who we thought we were. I have a new roof, so I'm not worried about the sky falling down.
If we take care of business in the last 10 minutes we wont have to worry about the last 5 seconds.
 
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So let me get this right, you are complaining because it's a "typical" year which may include a S16 run? You do realize that puts the program in a very small group who consistently make it that far right?

I just don't get some of you. I understand being upset at the losses but post like these just make no sense whatsoever. No "mediocre" coach has the type of success Painter does and that my friend is a fact.

I mean you even have other people from other boards coming here and pointing out the silliness in posts like these. Think about that for a moment because John Wooden isn't coming through those doors to coach us as that is only one that would satisfy you.

There is no perfect coach out there and certainly the ones that would be considered better than Painter in an overall picture, are not going to come to Purdue. You all need to realize that just because Painter doesn't to things the way YOU think they should be, doesn't make him a bad coach. In fact pretty much every description of him lists him as a GREAT coach outside of this forum and the numbers and history support that.

You need to do some personal reflection because you are letting your disdain for a man that has no real impact on your life, cloud your very judgement which makes you post silly things like this. You aren't alone in that of course and thankfully outside of this forum, most understand that Painter is going to be here for a LONG time and that is a GREAT thing for us.
To be fair, getting to the S16 4 times in 13 years isn't exactly consistently getting there.
 
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Sometimes I just don't get it. Why can't people on this forum ever question Painter without being hammered in return. I am NOT in the fire Painter crowd by any means. (Not sure there is even such a crowd anymore). My main complaint is just situational moments at the end of games. Otherwise I am pleased with the results and for the most part have liked what I have seen from Painter ever since the WUG. Now back to my questioning; we now have a pretty long history of not closing out games that we were pretty dominant in mid-way through the 2nd half and I would just like to see us attempt some things differently from time to time. Foul when you have a foul to give; If up by 3, foul and send the other team to the line for 2. Maybe call a time out a little more frequently to disrupt the other teams momentum before we relinquish a lead that is diminishing. I realize these strategies aren't always going to work, but I just would like to mix it up now and then and attempt something not predictable. Put Nojel in on the last defensive play of a game and just see what happens. Maybe it doesn't work out, but in the worst case scenario it would be a learning experience for the freshman. And if it does work out it would give him a ton of confidence! When Nojel was in for a short time yesterday he was giving Tum-tum fits! Just let him play a little longer. It will pay dividends down the road when you need for him to be more experienced in a pressure situation during the tournament. It wasn't like the rest of the team was playing lights out to begin with. If you are only going to give a highly regarded 4 star recruit 6 minutes a game, why didn't you just go ahead and red-shirt him.
Now as far as my view of Painter as a coach overall, I think he is right up there in the top 15 of coaches in the country. What I like to do when assessing this, is say who would I rather have coaching this team but Painter? When I do this, I can hardly even come up with anyone and the short list I do come up with probably wouldn't come to Purdue anyway. I love Painter's integrity and I would say there a lot of coaches that may have had better success than Painter as far as championships, but I don't seem them as necessarily high integrity guys I would want leading this team. I would say the list I could come up with would be Holtmann, Smart, Wright, and Bennett. So I don't know, maybe Painter is top 5, not just top 15! Imagine that! Ok, now go ahead and hammer me on my post!
 
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To be fair, getting to the S16 4 times in 13 years isn't exactly consistently getting there.
Fair enough but I made those comments based of of the original post.

How about consistently getting us to the tourney? And at a rate I think ranks rather high compared to other coaches. I think anyway.
 
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Sometimes I just don't get it. Why can't people on this forum ever question Painter without being hammered in return. I am NOT in the fire Painter crowd by any means. (Not sure there is even such a crowd anymore). My main complaint is just situational moments at the end of games.
Well you did a good tactic. Hard to hammer you when you make a block post like that it's hard to read :)

But I will say this based off of your first line, I don't think anyone has an issue with being critical of Painter, it's how it's done that matters. The thought out posts are usually met with the same type of posts.

To your main complaint, it is easy for us to look at the situations in hindsight but Painter makes his decision I would guess based on the flow of the game, what he knows about his players and the circumstances at the time. Things may not be as cut and dry as we think.
 
@cprh9u still a number 1 seed. I think you were so eager to come here pronouncing failure you did it a little too early lololol
 
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This board does suck, but there is room here for honest criticism. Obviously, the second half, we tried to extensively go through Haas. As much as I love him, I think this is a mistake. For one, it's to much pressure on him. Inside play opens up the 3's, but it can work the other way around too. It's fine if he get's it in the flow of the offense, but guys just standing around trying to feed him the ball isn't going to work. Even when he's one on one. We have to keep everyone involved, at all times.
This is the most intelligent post I have seen since the loss. The offense needs to go THROUGH Haas, not BE Haas. When the ball goes into to the post it gets stuck there and everyone else stands around and watches. We lose not only continuity in the offense, but in the game as a whole.
 
This is the most intelligent post I have seen since the loss. The offense needs to go THROUGH Haas, not BE Haas. When the ball goes into to the post it gets stuck there and everyone else stands around and watches. We lose not only continuity in the offense, but in the game as a whole.
A few kick outs would be nice to see especially when not so deep in the post.
But you are right the others have to keep moving to the open spots.
 
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