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Purdue at Nebraska: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

We hit 39% from 3. That’s good enough except for when the opponent shoots over 60%.
There's no point in arguing with you or many others because every game like this there's always the argument that everything is fine, we just ran into a buzzsaw. It was said after Northwestern. After every tourney game we lost the last three years.

Most of their shots were wide open. More of ours were not. They also outscored us from 2 and from the free throw line and didn't turn the ball over as much. The only metric we won was rebounds, barely.

So you can focus on one of several things I said or the whole. Shooting decent from three isn't going to beat a team that's getting open looks, getting layups off of screens and ball movement and otherwise making us pay on defense for having Edey out there if they are able to make him a non factor on the other end (both ends really) and we can't find ways to exploit that overreliance on packing the paint.

In short, they, like what we've seen in the tourney lately made us pay for our weakness but didn't have to pay for theirs.
 
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We hit 39% from 3. That’s good enough except for when the opponent shoots over 60%.
Wasn’t aware it was that high and so it indicates that maybe the D was the bigger problem even if some of Nebraska 3balls were defended. Maybe the D was a focal point for Matt since he was trying to keep fresh bodies on Tommy whatever with Lance, cam , and Ethan? They may have had 5or 6 different players hit 3balls?
 
Wasn’t aware it was that high and so it indicates that maybe the D was the bigger problem even if some of Nebraska 3balls were defended. Maybe the D was a focal point for Matt since he was trying to keep fresh bodies on Tommy whatever with Lance, cam , and Ethan? They may have had 5or 6 different players hit 3balls?
I think seven of their players hit a three.
 
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A good coach like Self would have made the adjustments to win this game...book it! We do not have that coach.

BTW...this is our worst loss in two years. It's worse by 2 points than the 68-54 loss at Maryland last year.
 
The best lineup that we can put on both ends of the floor: Smith, Jones, Heide/Colvin, Gillis (more consistent than TKR as well as an outside threat), Edey. Let's see if blind Coach can see this...

This is the lineup to start the 2nd half that cut an 11-point deficit to one...then started subbing and there went our run.
 
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The best lineup that we can put on both ends of the floor: Smith, Jones, Heidi/Colvin, Gillis (more consistent than TKR as well as an outside threat), Edey. Let's see if blind Coach can see this...

This is the lineup to start the 2nd half that cut an 11-point deficit to one...then started subbing and there went our run.
Good Lord. Can we not have balance around here? We either have posters who lose their mind at the tiniest Painter criticism or we have folks like you going completely in the opposite but equally ridiculous direction.

Blind coach? When you can spell all of our player's names correctly I'll take you more seriously.
 
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It's a road lose in the B1G. Shocking right? Did people think we were not going to have 4-5+ loses AT LEAST. Its going to happen. The NCAA is all about parity and you see it every night. I do like the fact that beating Purdue today's world is an automatic court storming by fans and it's a story running on CNN and Fox News this morning. Everyone take a breath and have a good day. Let's get ready for Penn State Saturday at Mackey.
 
Everyone take a breath and have a good day. Let's get ready for Penn State Saturday at Mackey.
This sounds so easy to do, but it is not. That said, I agree with you. I did sleep in an extra hour this morning, so that helped.
 
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How does Self ever lose a game then, he has the best talent money can buy and with him making adjustments he should never lose????
 
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Painter is so slow at making adjustments and lineups changes when changes/adjustments are clearly obvious...low basketball IQ at the helm.
You are about the simplest man that has ever posted here. Why don't you just watch your Seminoles play basketball(boy they are doing well this year) and quit watching the Boilers and posting here?
 
A good coach like Self would have made the adjustments to win this game...book it! We do not have that coach.

BTW...this is our worst loss in two years. It's worse by 2 points than the 68-54 loss at Maryland last year.
He was about to lose to tcu Saturday but got bailed out with a bogus flagrant foul lolol. Ku was NOT the better team Saturday and finally, not as good as they have been in the past. They will drop some games in the big12 to teams that aren’t good.
 
There's no point in arguing with you or many others because every game like this there's always the argument that everything is fine, we just ran into a buzzsaw. It was said after Northwestern. After every tourney game we lost the last three years.

Most of their shots were wide open. More of ours were not. They also outscored us from 2 and from the free throw line and didn't turn the ball over as much. The only metric we won was rebounds, barely.

So you can focus on one of several things I said or the whole. Shooting decent from three isn't going to beat a team that's getting open looks, getting layups off of screens and ball movement and otherwise making us pay on defense for having Edey out there if they are able to make him a non factor on the other end (both ends really) and we can't find ways to exploit that overreliance on packing the paint.

In short, they, like what we've seen in the tourney lately made us pay for our weakness but didn't have to pay for theirs.
I disagree. We got plenty of open threes due to Edey’s presence and hit 39 percent of them.

We turned it over 14 times, 13 of those by our starters. That and Nebraska’s unconscious shooting beat us.

Didn’t like how Painter pulled the bench in the first half when they got us a lead, or when he pulled Edey right as he was getting rolling in the 2nd half.
 
There's no point in arguing with you or many others because every game like this there's always the argument that everything is fine, we just ran into a buzzsaw. It was said after Northwestern. After every tourney game we lost the last three years.

Most of their shots were wide open. More of ours were not. They also outscored us from 2 and from the free throw line and didn't turn the ball over as much. The only metric we won was rebounds, barely.

So you can focus on one of several things I said or the whole. Shooting decent from three isn't going to beat a team that's getting open looks, getting layups off of screens and ball movement and otherwise making us pay on defense for having Edey out there if they are able to make him a non factor on the other end (both ends really) and we can't find ways to exploit that overreliance on packing the paint.

In short, they, like what we've seen in the tourney lately made us pay for our weakness but didn't have to pay for theirs.
What team in the country beats Nebraska last night? A team that hits 14 3s on 60% isn’t losing unless another team matches or is close to that % . It’s one game and a second loss. It happens. Were you also not happy with the 14 wins, a good amount that were against good teams?
 
What team in the country beats Nebraska last night? A team that hits 14 3s on 60% isn’t losing unless another team matches or is close to that % . It’s one game and a second loss. It happens. Were you also not happy with the 14 wins, a good amount that were against good teams?
That's exactly what I said. N o team was beating them last night. If they shot 30 or 40% and we list I would be more worried about this loss.
 
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I disagree. We got plenty of open threes due to Edey’s presence and hit 39 percent of them.

We turned it over 14 times, 13 of those by our starters. That and Nebraska’s unconscious shooting beat us.

Didn’t like how Painter pulled the bench in the first half when they got us a lead, or when he pulled Edey right as he was getting rolling in the 2nd half.
Yeah he actually did make the right adjustment and almost instantly tied the game. But then we went back to what was failing instead of putting in athletes and running them off the 3 point line. Morton held keisei down early. You have to run teams like this off the line. Yes you will give up some layups but it's better than 60 percent from 3. Nobody can keep up with that.
 
I graduated from Purdue in 1984 with a Bachelor degree in meteorology...and Master degree in meteorology at Florida State in 1987. Those are my two schools. As my handle says "seminolesboilers". Working 34 years in the National Weather Service...I admit that I am not a good loser...so vent on this board.
 
I graduated from Purdue in 1984 with a Bachelor degree in meteorology...and Master degree in meteorology at Florida State in 1987. Those are my two schools. As my handle says "seminolesboilers". Working 34 years in the National Weather Service...I admit that I am not a good loser...so vent on this board.
dude in his 60s trolling the free basketball board. Damn bro get a life!
 
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That's exactly what I said. N o team was beating them last night. If they shot 30 or 40% and we list I would be more worried about this loss.
They shot 9% from 3 vs Creighton at home and lost by 30. If Nebraska shoots their regular season avg, we win by 5. It happens. Was encouraged our shooting didn’t fall off and continues to be consistent. Let’s move on and pummel PSU at home and go to Btown and try to win there
 
I graduated from Purdue in 1984 with a Bachelor degree in meteorology...and Master degree in meteorology at Florida State in 1987. Those are my two schools. As my handle says "seminolesboilers". Working 34 years in the National Weather Service...I admit that I am not a good loser...so vent on this board.
But…be realistic at least? It’s not like Purdue shot 4% from 3 or Nebraska played really bad. Both our losses have come from teams who have played perfect games (for them) and couldn’t play and better. Purdue almost beat NW and was in the game last night as they were leading and got the second half lead to 1…and there’s room for ton of improvement in each of those games for Purdue…but not for the other two teams. Don’t panic….just yet 😂
 
It’s the same old song and dance. “Nobody could beat [fill in the blank] tonight.” That’s loser bullshit. Maybe that was a big ask to beat a team shooting insanely hot from 3, but you don’t roll over and get embarrassed by almost 20 points. At the end of the day, the Purdue guards still simply aren’t good enough. Today’s game and especially in March comes down to consistent, gutsy, and fearless guard play. Braden hasn’t looked sharp lately, he threw a LOT of bad passes last night, still jumping without a plan, etc. If it’s not the Braden from the Arizona or Alabama games, forget it. We all know about good Fletch/bad Fletch. Morton is Morton. Lance was a good pickup, love his spirit but as good as he can be, he also at times seems to force things and make some bad plays or bad shots which are basically turnovers. Do I think Colvin playing last night guarantees Purdue win? Not at all. But maybe, just maybe, in a game where defense was optional anyway, you could use an athletic guy who might be able to take his guy off the dribble, get to the rim or baseline for some dunks or who’s youth and fearlessness would take and hit some 3s. Make Nebraska guard him and Heide and run around chasing them and maybe they don’t have the legs to hit those daggers at the end. Maybe while Edey is out, go with TKR at the 5 and run some pick and roll stuff like they did against Illinois. Hell, maybe put Berg in to let him guard Mast. He’s long, a little more mobile than Zach. Instead, we got the traditional Purdue deer in headlights, turn it over and hope the refs are magically going to bail Zach out when he’s getting double and triple teamed. Guess what? They’re not. When it looks like you’re going down to a pumped up team is not the time to go Norman Dale and try to teach a lesson. Why not scramble and throw something different at them? Find the spark off the bench. Do something. This will just serve to give other teams more confidence and make Purdue pucker up next time they’re in a fight. Can’t wait to hear the excuses next week if they go down to Bloomington and get blitzed again by a team that a lot of people on this board seem to think is so terrible.
 
This fan base accepts losing...it's okay. Not me...make changes, recruit better, maybe a new coach.
Do you, as a zero- tolerance internet badass, accept scores of FSU football players chickening out of a NYD bowl because they got all butt-hurt over being excluded from a playoff they didn’t belong in?

Asking for a friend….
 
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The only meaningful bowl games are the football playoffs. Players opt out of the other meaningless bowl games just like two Purdue players did. I would do the same if I were a projected NFL player rather than risk injury.
 
I love Edey. But I wonder if he is already worn down with the thought of facing hacking double or triple teams for the rest of a looong season. Plus now teams will be running smaller players at him giving up getting their shot blocked a few times, in order to get two early fouls on him. Once he gets two, he seems not to know how to deal with it and being in and out of the game. His face, his body language was not good.
 
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