...according to Lunardi and Palm. Not even among the first four out according to Palm. That is an accomplishment for the once #3-ramked team.
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They were already struggling and then the injury bug hit them. Unless they do something spectacular with the games remaining and make a good showing in the BTT, I think they are out. They will have to do some spectacular things just to get to 20 wins and that might not even be enough with double digit loses!
They should be out...they have not won a meaningful game since November, and if they were to play either of those two teams again right now, they would be run off the floor.
They simply have not played well, even when healthy they were not playing good basketball.
They play selfishly, and there simply is not a worse defensive team in the conference...maybe in the country.
Whereas they overachieved a year ago, they have underachieved to the same degree this year.
They miss Anunoby certainly, but, he was not playing well when he was there...and things bogged down even more with him as it was one more guy that wanted/needed to have the ball in his hands.
A very talented roster...a lot of individual talent...but they simply never came together as a team or played like one.
It will be interesting to see what happens at the end of the year...whereas many anticipated Anunoby leaving for sure and Bryant and Blackmon likely doing so, it would seem more likely now that all will be back...which creates a scholarship crunch I believe, but it also leads to another very talented roster if it happens, but a minutes crunch potentially also.
I don't know what you're seeing but the latest from Lunardi has them as one of the last 4 in I think:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Palm has them definitely out. Lunardi seems to have changed his bracket since I posted. It does appear that he has them as part of a 12-seed play-in game. However, is it not true that most play-ins from major conferences are 11s? Iirc that is the normal placement.
No, that seems not to be the case. Palm definitely had them in it yesterday afternoon. It seems that he updates daily.
Joey Brackets has updated today.....Indiana last four in (play-in as #12)...Michigan next four out.
Other conference picks:
Wisconsin (3)
Purdue (5)
Mary (6)
Northwestern (8)
Minny (9)
MSU (10)
I do think the conference probably gets seven if there are no "stolen" bids.
By the way, I'm probably in the minority, but I don't mind Bilas' idea that the Committee finalize the at-large field prior to Championship Week.....meaning those conference tournaments are just about automatic bids. Won't happen, but it's an interesting one.
Other conference picks:
Wisconsin (3)
Purdue (5)
Mary (6)
Northwestern (8)
Minny (9)
MSU (10)
I do think the conference probably gets seven if there are no "stolen" bids.
By the way, I'm probably in the minority, but I don't mind Bilas' idea that the Committee finalize the at-large field prior to Championship Week.....meaning those conference tournaments are just about automatic bids. Won't happen, but it's an interesting one.
I am still baffled when I hear announcers say that 19 wins will get msu in the tourney. But Northwestern has 18 wins and they are on the bubble. Joe L seems to agree with this as he has them in as a 10.
Totally agree it's a load of garbage ! Msu doesn't have too many quality wins and have lost to horrible teams. They shouldn't even be on the radar right now
They just got thumped by Michigan lol
MSU's two wins over Minny are helping them, and they are also probably getting a little benefit of the doubt because (except for last year) they've built up some street cred over the years. In theory, year-to-year shouldn't matter, but......
Northwestern should be in good shape, but their SOS isn't helping them, no top 25 wins either. The return game at home against the Boilers comes at a good time for them.....that doesn't figure to be anything but a true grind it out dogfight IMO.....especially if Lindsey is back and healthy. They also get a shot @ Wisconsin to really help themselves.
sort of like the idea, but
what happens if upsets happen and non-ncaa teams win power 5 conf tourneys?
do they just bump the lowest previous at large seed(s)?
I would think so; presumably, the seeding could change. His main point was that a team shouldn't simply get in the field by advancing (but not winning) through a conference tourney.
Purdue to this point has seemingly earned better than a 5, and especially so if Wisconsin is a 3, as there is no way that a 2 seed difference could be justified.
Purdue has better wins...worse losses (although barely in that UW should have lost to Rutgers and Nebraska...and, they just aren't playing well...they have some obstacles still along the way, especially if they continue to play as they have)...and should have the better resume it would seem...only thing UW has is the conference lead (due to schedule) and a higher ranking (which is irrelevant).
I know there's not a huge difference between 4 and 5, but if PU finishes strong, I expect them to be a bit higher.
