Is IU still a blue blood ?
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In the college basketball context I believe the term is outdated and mostly irrelevant. Look at UConn, Nova, Wisconsin, Virginia, Baylor, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc. None of them would be considered "blue bloods" but they are enjoying similar success as Duke, UNC, UK, UCLA. In college basketball, the coach is the program. History is history.
The more appropriate question is which current coaches would be considered blue bloods.
Krzyzewski
Calipari
Self
Izzo
Pitino
Boeheim?
The more appropriate question is which current coaches would be considered blue bloods.
Krzyzewski
Calipari
Self
Izzo
Pitino
Boeheim?
Similar does not mean same. Point is there are no dominant programs. Nova, Duke, Louisville, UConn won the last 4 national championships. Duke is Duke because of Coach K.
Heavy inbreeding as exhibited by numerous anomalies such as poor dental structure and a high incidence of mental illness.
Whether they are or not--why is it a question for Purdue fans, has iu ever been a blue blood??
Oh it's very relevant considering they're our biggest rival. Yes 5 national championships at one time they were. Been 30 years since they've achieved it, are they now ? I'm not sure that's along time
Even in their 5 NC it is not like they were a National Blue Blood recruiter and went out and got anyone they wanted with relatively good success doing so.....that is what K, Duke and Kansas do they have a high degree of success landing several top 40 kids....not all of them but they do get a nice group of top 40s usually. Did iu ever do that? Yes iu lands some sporadic good kids....a top 40 here and there, but did/do not stock the lineup and bench with Top 40s like a typical BB does. Besides a few like Quin Buckner and Isaiah Thomas a lot of ius geat kids were from Indiana. I would say now iu is more of a National recruiter than they were back in the day. Crean pulls in a few top 40 guys not because he is a BB, but because he is just a heck of a recruiter.
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I don't care much about IU. A better question would be when will we, Purdue be one? I'm hoping before my lifetime. In order to do that we a deep and consistent deep run in the NCAA tournament first.
if "blue blood" includes rabid mouth breathing green teeth hilljacks, then yes
I voted yes, because of this:
Traditional Blue Blood Teams: Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, UCLA
Since 1965 (last 50 years) there have only been four Final Fours that did not include one of those six teams; 2013, 1985, 1983, 1979.
I like that time period because:
1. I'm 61, so 50 years aligns well with my own frame of reference.
2. Aligns with college basketball and television together. Before 65, not many games on TV.
With the term Blue Blood however, I don't think you can include newer schools on the scene like MSU, Georgetown, Connecticut that have nice runs over the past 25 years. And even if IU hasn't want a title since 1987, once a blue blood, always a blue blood.
I see a difference between Blue Blood and Elite. I would no longer consider IU elite and I would consider teams like Florida, Connecticut, or Nova in recent years of perhaps achieving that status. Teams can be elite for 7 to 12 years, but Blue Blood is a long term historical reference to the beginning of the "golden age" of college basketball and who were the dominant programs over that historical time.
Traditional Blue Blood Teams: Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, UCLA
Since 1965 (last 50 years) there have only been four Final Fours that did not include one of those six teams; 2013, 1985, 1983, 1979.
I like that time period because:
1. I'm 61, so 50 years aligns well with my own frame of reference.
2. Aligns with college basketball and television together. Before 65, not many games on TV.
With the term Blue Blood however, I don't think you can include newer schools on the scene like MSU, Georgetown, Connecticut that have nice runs over the past 25 years. And even if IU hasn't want a title since 1987, once a blue blood, always a blue blood.
I see a difference between Blue Blood and Elite. I would no longer consider IU elite and I would consider teams like Florida, Connecticut, or Nova in recent years of perhaps achieving that status. Teams can be elite for 7 to 12 years, but Blue Blood is a long term historical reference to the beginning of the "golden age" of college basketball and who were the dominant programs over that historical time.
FYI...Most NCAA FFs List. This list would make a case for Louisville, MSU, and Ohio State.
I was surprised the Tar Heels has more than the Bruins and the LSU had as many as UNLV and Houston had more.
19 North Carolina Tar Heels
17 UCLA Bruins
17 Kentucky Wildcats
16 Duke Blue Devils
14 Kansas Jayhawks
10 Louisville Cardinals
10 Ohio State Buckeyes
9 Michigan State Spartans
8 Indiana Hoosiers
6 Arkansas Razorbacks
6 Cincinnati Bearcats
6 Oklahoma State Cowboys
6 Syracuse Orange
5 Connecticut Huskies
5 Florida Gators
5 Georgetown Hoyas
5 Houston Cougars
5 Illinois Fighting Illini
5 Michigan Wolverines
5 Oklahoma Sooners
4 Arizona Wildcats
4 Kansas State Wildcats
4 LSU Fighting Tigers
4 UNLV Rebels
4 Utah Utes
4 Villanova Wildcats
4 Wisconsin Badgers
I was surprised the Tar Heels has more than the Bruins and the LSU had as many as UNLV and Houston had more.
19 North Carolina Tar Heels
17 UCLA Bruins
17 Kentucky Wildcats
16 Duke Blue Devils
14 Kansas Jayhawks
10 Louisville Cardinals
10 Ohio State Buckeyes
9 Michigan State Spartans
8 Indiana Hoosiers
6 Arkansas Razorbacks
6 Cincinnati Bearcats
6 Oklahoma State Cowboys
6 Syracuse Orange
5 Connecticut Huskies
5 Florida Gators
5 Georgetown Hoyas
5 Houston Cougars
5 Illinois Fighting Illini
5 Michigan Wolverines
5 Oklahoma Sooners
4 Arizona Wildcats
4 Kansas State Wildcats
4 LSU Fighting Tigers
4 UNLV Rebels
4 Utah Utes
4 Villanova Wildcats
4 Wisconsin Badgers
Here you go.
Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, and Kansas still at the top along with MSU. UCLA slips quite a bit, but tied with Arizona for most from PAC10. Indiana slips down in the BIG to 4th in most appearances behind MSU, Mich, and Wisky.
# of Final Four appearances: 1991-2016 (2 or more)
9 Kentucky Wildcats
9 North Carolina Tar Heels
8 Duke Blue Devils
7 Michigan State Spartans
6 Kansas Jayhawks
5 Connecticut Huskies
4 Florida Gators
4 Syracuse Orange
3 Arizona Wildcats
3 Louisville Cardinals
3 Michigan Wolverines
3 UCLA Bruins
3 Wisconsin Badgers
2 Arkansas Razorbacks
2 Butler Bulldogs
2 Indiana Hoosiers
2 Maryland
2 Ohio State Buckeyes
2 Oklahoma Sooners
2 Oklahoma State Cowboys
2 Villanova Wildcats
Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, and Kansas still at the top along with MSU. UCLA slips quite a bit, but tied with Arizona for most from PAC10. Indiana slips down in the BIG to 4th in most appearances behind MSU, Mich, and Wisky.
# of Final Four appearances: 1991-2016 (2 or more)
9 Kentucky Wildcats
9 North Carolina Tar Heels
8 Duke Blue Devils
7 Michigan State Spartans
6 Kansas Jayhawks
5 Connecticut Huskies
4 Florida Gators
4 Syracuse Orange
3 Arizona Wildcats
3 Louisville Cardinals
3 Michigan Wolverines
3 UCLA Bruins
3 Wisconsin Badgers
2 Arkansas Razorbacks
2 Butler Bulldogs
2 Indiana Hoosiers
2 Maryland
2 Ohio State Buckeyes
2 Oklahoma Sooners
2 Oklahoma State Cowboys
2 Villanova Wildcats
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IU has alumni, a majority of the people I know who claim to be IU fans never attended a class in Bloomington, most of them never attended a college class anywhere.
I hate IU but they def have more than 2 Final Four appearances from 81-2016. Maybe you meant National Titles for the 2. But idk where you got your stats from.
I think he meant last 25 years, which would technically be 1981-82 to 2015-16.
25 years would explain the confusion.....that would be 1991, no?
I don't know where you get your information from, son.....but I don't like it....
Sadly, I have an accounting degree from Purdue. I let my people down!
Does that stuff work? I'm....uh.....asking for a friend.
This list is much more telling, IMO. IU has only 2 FF's in that span. If those consider IU a blue blood, you have to give reasonable consideration to Butler as well. If you are going to give blue blood status to a basketball program that hasn't moved the needle much in the last 36 years, you would have to consider Pitt a blue blood with their 11 national titles or Minnesota with their 7.
IU isn't a blue blood even though they have have the alumni base and the money...so does Oregon and they aren't considered a blue blood program. It will be much easier for IU to achieve blue blood status again due to their history but they are, by no means, a blue blood right now.
In fact, outside of Kentucky and Duke, I don't think there are really any blue bloods now with the ability of programs to rise for short times and fall due to scholarships, online social media, and other factors. All programs are much better now and really any program in the top 30 have a realistic chance at winning a NC every year and even more programs have a chance for runs to a FF and Elite 8. The era of blue bloods, i think, is over.
1992 as well. As an IU fan, I don't consider IU a Blue Blood. Good program, yes. But we need to see more trips past the sweet 16 before I make that proclamation.
They are either first or second (to OSU) in non-alumni fan base .... that stats are somewhere.
Forgot '92. Still say had RMK not been fired, his last team would have hung another banner.
