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Going after Trump......again

How can I point out something Trump supposedly lied about when I'm not educated enough on the PRA? Haven't you noticed that I, for the most part, have stayed out of that part of the argument?
I've asked Bob to help us all become better educated by telling us what information sources he relies on. It has been several days since I asked, so I trust he is busy compiling a list for us. Right, Bob?
 
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How can I point out something Trump supposedly lied about when I'm not educated enough on the PRA? Haven't you noticed that I, for the most part, have stayed out of that part of the argument?
I've asked Bob to interpret it for us since he seems to be the expert.
It seems that previous rulings, when brought before Circuit Judges, ended in support of the POTUS's rights to his documents.
See William Clinton and his sock tapes, Obama https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-spent-36m-on-records-lawsuits-last-year/, and now Biden.
But TTRRUUMMPP!!
 
You are quite divisional if you think Obama was the worse president in the last 40 years. Bush the Younger is the worse followed by Chump. How can a president that got the US out of one of the worse financial crisis ever be the worse president? Not only was Obama a good dude personally, he was a very good president. He got the US back on its feet and the economy rolling again. The Affordable Care Act allowed millions of Americans get healthcare that they did not afford to have before. Saved many lives. It’s not perfect but most people like it despite the repubs trying ti kill it every step of the way. It would have been better if the repubs help tweak it or just stay out of the way with the negativity. They kept saying that the ACA would have death panels. Somebody said at work they they are going to put chips in our bodies. A lot of conservatives like when they signed up under whatever name the state called it. As soon as they found out that was a version of Obamacare, now they did not like it.
Race relations got worse under Obama. Obama was not the great president that you proclaim.

 
Race relations got worse under Obama. Obama was not the great president that you proclaim.

You keep bringing this up. Race relations got worse because republicans, Faux News, and conservative talk radio hated Obama because he was a black man.

Without bringing up the BS “If Treyvon was my son” quote, if race relations got worse, for the sake of this argument, how was it Obama’s fault. I mean, how was it directly Obama’s fault. I forgot what you said the last time you brought up this BS.
 
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You keep bringing this up. Race relations got worse because republicans, Faux News, and conservative talk radio hated Obama because he was a black man.

Without bringing up the BS “If Treyvon was my son” quote, if race relations got worse, for the sake of this argument, how was it Obama’s fault. I mean, how was it directly Obama’s fault. I forgot what you said the last time you brought up this BS.
Obama did nothing to bring anybody together and would you please stop being programmed for one day, dummy? You blame republicans, Fox News and conservative talk radio for everything you don’t like because that’s what your masters have demanded you to believe. It’s time for you to get a new hobby or a brain reset. You’re a brainwashed embarrassment.
 
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Race relations got worse under Obama. Obama was not the great president that you proclaim.

Barack Obama - the great divider
 
Again, how did Obama directly make race relations worse other than the right wingers hating him because he was black?
Unfortunately there is nothing I can say to a closed minded democrat like yourself to explain it. I’ve posted on it before and you had none of it. BTW I voted for him the first time. He didn’t fool me the second time.
 
Unfortunately there is nothing I can say to a closed minded democrat like yourself to explain it. I’ve posted on it before and you had none of it. BTW I voted for him the first time. He didn’t fool me the second time.
There is nothing to say because your argument is very weak. If race relations was worse it was because of the racist right wingers and Faux News hosts. Right wingers depicted Obama AND his family in various right wing publications as monkeys. Or, Michele Obama is a really a man. Etc. Etc. Faux News lost their minds when Obama decided to where a tan suit. Lost their minds when Michele wore a dress that exposed her shoulders. Maybe race relations did get worse. But perhaps you are blaming the wrong folks.
 
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There is nothing to say because your argument is very weak. If race relations was worse it was because of the racist right wingers and Faux News hosts. Right wingers depicted Obama AND his family in various right wing publications as monkeys. Or, Michele Obama is a really a man. Etc. Etc. Faux News lost their minds when Obama decided to where a tan suit. Lost their minds when Michele wore a dress that exposed her shoulders. Maybe race relations did get worse. But perhaps you are blaming the wrong folks.
Check out how many people watch Fox News on a daily basis and how many people vote Republican. As always, basic numbers and facts prove whatever black talk radio tells you to believe wrong. The cult has you convinced that the one news outlet that slants conservative is to blame for everything.

I understand you’re too stupid to realize this and it’s over your head but think hard about it, dummy.
 
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Check out how many people watch Fox News on a daily basis and how many people vote Republican. As always, basic numbers and facts prove whatever black talk radio tells you to believe wrong. The cult has you convinced that the one news outlet that slants conservative is to blame for everything.

I understand you’re too stupid to realize this and it’s over your head but think hard about it, dummy.
Get your new forum handle name ready.
 
Get your new forum handle name ready.
I just realized the subtle meaning of your user pic. Kudos for the brutal honesty of your self-deprecating humor, faux grad.

 
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I just realized the subtle meaning of your user pic. Kudos for the brutal honesty of your self-deprecating humor, faux grad.

You need to stop assuming things. Number 1, there is no subtle meaning of my avatar picture. My picture is a reflection of my hobby which is astronomy. Which leads me to number 2. That is not a black hole. That is a Hubble telescope picture of one of my favorite objects to see through my backyard telescopes. That is a planetary nebula called the Ring Nebula. The 57th entry in the famous Messier catalog.

Have you figured out how to get to the Stewart Center from the Union building yet, Mr. Faux grad?
 
You need to stop assuming things. Number 1, there is no subtle meaning of my avatar picture. My picture is a reflection of my hobby which is astronomy. Which leads me to number 2. That is not a black hole. That is a Hubble telescope picture of one of my favorite objects to see through my backyard telescopes. That is a planetary nebula called the Ring Nebula. The 57th entry in the famous Messier catalog.

Have you figured out how to get to the Stewart Center from the Union building yet, Mr. Faux grad?
I'll figure it out if I ever go to WL again, which is not likely since I live 1000 miles away.

Have you figured out yet the middle class does not pay most of the taxes in the US, Mr. Black Nebulous Imposter boiler?
 
I'll figure it out if I ever go to WL again, which is not likely since I live 1000 miles away.

Have you figured out yet the middle class does not pay most of the taxes in the US, Mr. Black Nebulous Imposter boiler?
If you don’t you ain’t no Purdue grad.

I still stand by that the middle class pay more taxes than anyone.
 
If you don’t you ain’t no Purdue grad.

I still stand by that the middle class pay more taxes than anyone.
Do you not know how to look it up, faux grad, because you are embarrassing yourself - or at least you would be if you knew enough to be embarrassed.
 
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If you don’t you ain’t no Purdue grad.

I still stand by that the middle class pay more taxes than anyone.
Of course you do. It’s a falsehood that you’ve been demanded by your cult masters to believe. The truth and facts mean nothing to Democrats. All narrative, all the time
 
You’ll find out.
No I won’t and I’m still here. Are you sending messages to the moderators again because you don’t like being proven wrong in everything you say over and over and over and over again? Why do you have such a problem with truth?
 
I guess we will just have to disagree on the PRA as it is out lined in the Constitution.
And modified in the 1978 Nixon act.
If Trump's lawyers and their PRA interpretation hold up in court, than all other charges against Trump will be dismissed.
I did listen to the majority of the interview but Trump's speaking annoys me.
Totally. He isn’t even hiring all those high power lawyers that are begging to take his case. It’s a complete slam dunk. Another witch hunt that he will totally win.
 
You keep bringing this up. Race relations got worse because republicans, Faux News, and conservative talk radio hated Obama because he was a black man.

Without bringing up the BS “If Treyvon was my son” quote, if race relations got worse, for the sake of this argument, how was it Obama’s fault. I mean, how was it directly Obama’s fault. I forgot what you said the last time you brought up this BS.
Suuuure. Had nothing to do with Obama feeding into the "all police are racist" narrative. He said the police "acted stupidly", getting himself involved in an incident in which he had no clue as to what happened. This set off a firestorm of stories about how racist America was. This is just one example of how he made things worse.
 
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Suuuure. Had nothing to do with Obama feeding into the "all police are racist" narrative. He said the police "acted stupidly", getting himself involved in an incident in which he had no clue as to what happened. This set off a firestorm of stories about how racist America was. This is just one example of how he made things worse.
Police did and do act stupidly. I think you referencing the Ferguson incident. Even though the grand jury did not charge the police officer for killing Michael Brown, if you you talk to any police officer about that they will tell you that the Ferguson officer foolishly put himself in a poor position to now he has to use deadly force to kill Michael Brown.


Just last week the police handcuffed an 10 year old black girl and walked her to the squad car. Just for answering the door when the police came.
 
Police did and do act stupidly. I think you referencing the Ferguson incident. Even though the grand jury did not charge the police officer for killing Michael Brown, if you you talk to any police officer about that they will tell you that the Ferguson officer foolishly put himself in a poor position to now he has to use deadly force to kill Michael Brown.


Just last week the police handcuffed an 10 year old black girl and walked her to the squad car. Just for answering the door when the police came.
No, I'm not referencing the Ferguson incident. I'm referencing the arrest of Prof Henry Gates Jr.

You do understand that police officers staying the officer put himself in a foolish or poor position says NOTHING about him being racist. Did he make a mistake. YES. He's human just like us. People make mistakes. Unfortunately someone lost their life. I am more than willing to bet that this has happened more than once and many times to white people. We'd never hear about it though.
 
No, I'm not referencing the Ferguson incident. I'm referencing the arrest of Prof Henry Gates Jr.

You do understand that police officers staying the officer put himself in a foolish or poor position says NOTHING about him being racist. Did he make a mistake. YES. He's human just like us. People make mistakes. Unfortunately someone lost their life. I am more than willing to bet that this has happened more than once and many times to white people. We'd never hear about it though.
Yeah, I remember the arrest of my man the Prof. Skip Gates. A Yale affirmative action beneficiary along with Justice Thomas and Dr. Ben Carson by the way. Anyhow, the police did act stupidly, arresting a man trying to get into his own house. Gates forgot his house keys or something. That situation could have been solved on-site. Then Obama had that so called Beer Summit at the White House with him, the arresting officer and Gates. I thought that was a good move to quell the racial tensions after that arrest. Seem to work because nobody talked about that incident ever since.
 
Yeah, I remember the arrest of my man the Prof. Skip Gates. A Yale affirmative action beneficiary along with Justice Thomas and Dr. Ben Carson by the way. Anyhow, the police did act stupidly, arresting a man trying to get into his own house. Gates forgot his house keys or something. That situation could have been solved on-site. Then Obama had that so called Beer Summit at the White House with him, the arresting officer and Gates. I thought that was a good move to quell the racial tensions after that arrest. Seem to work because nobody talked about that incident ever since.
Gates was arrested for loud and tumultuous behavior. Here's how it went down:

It was early afternoon when Gates, 58, reached his house by taxi. The front door was stuck, so he entered through the back door, disabled the alarm and then again tried to push open the front door with the help of the north African taxi driver.​
A woman walking by saw a black man trying to force the door, called 911, and hapless Sgt James Crowley arrived.​
He asked Gates to step outside as he was investigating a report of a break-in. "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" Gates asked, according to Crowley's police report, refusing to leave his front room.
Asked to prove it was his own home, Gates showed his Harvard ID and local driving licence. In return, Gates asked Crowley for his name and badge number. "This guy had this whole narrative in his head: black guy breaking and entering," Gates told the Washington Post.​
In his report, Crowley said Gates accused him of being a racist and told him he had no idea who he was messing with. The officer wrote that when asked Gates to step outside again, he responded: "I'll speak with your mama outside."
"I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me," the sergeant said. Crowley called more officers from Cambridge and from Harvard's own police, and Gates was arrested.​

As you can see, Gates right off the bat was combative and acted like a fool. If he simply would have complied everything would have gone smoothly, but instead decided to take up the racist narrative from the jump and even gave subtle threats to the officer. If anyone "acted stupidly" it was Gates.

The hilarious part is that Gates accuses the officer of having the narrative of black guy breaking and entering, when he was the one with the narrative. Cop racist.
 
Gates was arrested for loud and tumultuous behavior. Here's how it went down:

It was early afternoon when Gates, 58, reached his house by taxi. The front door was stuck, so he entered through the back door, disabled the alarm and then again tried to push open the front door with the help of the north African taxi driver.​
A woman walking by saw a black man trying to force the door, called 911, and hapless Sgt James Crowley arrived.​
He asked Gates to step outside as he was investigating a report of a break-in. "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" Gates asked, according to Crowley's police report, refusing to leave his front room.
Asked to prove it was his own home, Gates showed his Harvard ID and local driving licence. In return, Gates asked Crowley for his name and badge number. "This guy had this whole narrative in his head: black guy breaking and entering," Gates told the Washington Post.​
In his report, Crowley said Gates accused him of being a racist and told him he had no idea who he was messing with. The officer wrote that when asked Gates to step outside again, he responded: "I'll speak with your mama outside."
"I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me," the sergeant said. Crowley called more officers from Cambridge and from Harvard's own police, and Gates was arrested.​

As you can see, Gates right off the bat was combative and acted like a fool. If he simply would have complied everything would have gone smoothly, but instead decided to take up the racist narrative from the jump and even gave subtle threats to the officer. If anyone "acted stupidly" it was Gates.

The hilarious part is that Gates accuses the officer of having the narrative of black guy breaking and entering, when he was the one with the narrative. Cop racist.
Gates was argumentative, not combative. Put yourself in Gates’ shoes. You are tired coming home from a long trip. You get home and you don’t have your keys to get into the crib. For certain, the lady is racist for calling the cops seeing a black man going trying to get into a house. And that’s how she framed it when she called 911. Now the cops have a picture in their mind when they are rolling up to the house. Add in the fact now that hates is argumentative, again not combative. If Gates was a white man, it would have been solved right then and there. All you have to do is look at his ID and you know that is his residence.
 
Gates was argumentative, not combative. Put yourself in Gates’ shoes. You are tired coming home from a long trip. You get home and you don’t have your keys to get into the crib. For certain, the lady is racist for calling the cops seeing a black man going trying to get into a house. And that’s how she framed it when she called 911. Now the cops have a picture in their mind when they are rolling up to the house. Add in the fact now that hates is argumentative, again not combative. If Gates was a white man, it would have been solved right then and there. All you have to do is look at his ID and you know that is his residence.
So a woman is racist because she called the police when she saw a man trying to force a door open? Did you even stop to think about that? Was she just supposed to let a person's home get broken into?

I'm sure the woman said the person was black. I would hope that if the person was white she would have said that too. It's a distinguishing characteristic that helps the police to identify the proper person.

You're speculating that it would have been solved right then and there if Gates was a white man, but you have literally no proof of that. In fact I'd argue that if a white man acted like Gates did, he'd have been arrested too. The problem is that people like Gates are laying in the bed in which he made, so to speak. He assumes what the cop was doing was based on race and ran with that narrative, making the entire situation 100 times worse.

The officer was responding to a breaking and entering call. Before he even knows who Gates is, Gates is already argumentative and playing the race card. He only made it worse and worse with his attitude and actions.

Gates made the problem what it was. Not racism.
 
So a woman is racist because she called the police when she saw a man trying to force a door open? Did you even stop to think about that? Was she just supposed to let a person's home get broken into?

I'm sure the woman said the person was black. I would hope that if the person was white she would have said that too. It's a distinguishing characteristic that helps the police to identify the proper person.

You're speculating that it would have been solved right then and there if Gates was a white man, but you have literally no proof of that. In fact I'd argue that if a white man acted like Gates did, he'd have been arrested too. The problem is that people like Gates are laying in the bed in which he made, so to speak. He assumes what the cop was doing was based on race and ran with that narrative, making the entire situation 100 times worse.

The officer was responding to a breaking and entering call. Before he even knows who Gates is, Gates is already argumentative and playing the race card. He only made it worse and worse with his attitude and actions.

Gates made the problem what it was. Not racism.
If the lady saw 2 white men piddling around a home, she wouldn't think anything of it. Police would not have been called and you know it. White people just arguing with police don't get arrested. Arguing with the police is not arrestable in most cases, particularly when you are at your own home, and by then it should have been established at this time that you are the resident here. Gates can play the race card as long as he wants, playing the race card is not breaking any laws. What laws did Gates commit that he should have been arrested?
 
If you don’t you ain’t no Purdue grad.

I still stand by that the middle class pay more taxes than anyone.
Your complete ignorance on this topic reflects the jumble of misinformation you have somehow incorporated over time on which you base the vastly misinformed and incoherent posts you spew out.

Table 1, line 7. Time for you to go hide.

 
Your complete ignorance on this topic reflects the jumble of misinformation you have somehow incorporated over time on which you base the vastly misinformed and incoherent posts you spew out.

Table 1, line 7. Time for you to go hide.

Is that before or after all of the deductions like Lear Jets?
 
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Is that before or after all of the deductions like Lear Jets?
Instead of admitting you were completely ignorant on the topic, you compound it by demonstrating you don't understand the difference between personal income taxes and business taxes.

The top 10% of wage earners pay 74% of all income taxes. The top 25% pay 88%.

Are you ready to admit you had no idea what you were talking about ?
 
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If the lady saw 2 white men piddling around a home, she wouldn't think anything of it. Police would not have been called and you know it. White people just arguing with police don't get arrested. Arguing with the police is not arrestable in most cases, particularly when you are at your own home, and by then it should have been established at this time that you are the resident here. Gates can play the race card as long as he wants, playing the race card is not breaking any laws. What laws did Gates commit that he should have been arrested?
But she didn't see 2 black men piddling around a home. She saw them trying to force a door open. So yes, if she saw two white men trying to force a door open, she absolutely would think something of it.

Yes, I see white people get arrested for arguing with the police all the fukking time. Try watching body cam shows sometime.

Stop being a race baiting moron like the professor was.
 
You do understand that taxes paid are after deductions right? FFS you need a major intervention.
Just making sure because a lot of folks when discussing this conflate the amount of taxes paid with the amount of the tax burden prior to the deductions.
 
How can I point out something Trump supposedly lied about when I'm not educated enough on the PRA? Haven't you noticed that I, for the most part, have stayed out of that part of the argument?
Then WHY did you jump into an argument about the damn PRA?

Apparently to change the conversation to the media. Again.

If you nothing about the topic you probably shouldn’t post.
 
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