100%. I agree with your posts and I don’t have the time to post much as I would stir the pot too much. I want that F4 feeling that I had back in 1980. Im tired of all the excuses. Any other coach at basketball driven school would not tolerate the last 3 NCAA results. It’s honestly unacceptable. But that my opinion, and wished more of my fellow boilers felt the same.
Don't we need another Guard?
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100%. I agree with your posts and I don’t have the time to post much as I would stir the pot too much. I want that F4 feeling that I had back in 1980. Im tired of all the excuses. Any other coach at basketball driven school would not tolerate the last 3 NCAA results. It’s honestly unacceptable. But that my opinion, and wished more of my fellow boilers felt the same.
A lot of us do. It is what it is. Painter will be here as long as he wants. I’ve seen enough to know he most likely won’t reach a final four let alone ever win a championship. Still hopeful that painter will prove me wrong one of these years.
I'm 100% in agreement. Painter has shown the ability to get to the dance consistently, which is obviously part of the process (but making the NCAA should be the minimal expectation). He just hasn't shown the ability to get his teams to play at another level, (other than the Carsen Edwards lead run in '18).
Actually the opposite happens; his teams play down to their competition in the tourney. It's an unfortunate trend.
4 sweet sixteens in the last 6 NCAAs would indicate otherwise, at least to rational persons.
There’s no chance that Quinterly comes here, he’s not going to a place where at best he’s playing 20
Minutes a night. Maybe Houston, Baylor, Georgia Tech would be a quick guess.
I don't think out PG is nearly as secure as some people think.
Getting to a Sweet 16 is a nice accomplishment, but it's not some other-worldly, program-defining accomplishment, especially if you're a top 4 seed/heavy-favorite facing a double-digit seed in the first round.
You basically have to beat one "good"/decent team (Iowa State in 2017, a 10-seed Butler in 2018, a decent 6-seed Nova team in 2019, a quality Texas team in 2022) in the second round to get to the Sweet 16.
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100% agree that you guys don't live in reality....Purdue is no basketball power....would much rather have consistent success than the occasional final four run then back to obscurity....look at all the coaches that went on a run in the tourney and faded to oblivion....crean, Davis, Shaka, Greg Marshall, Kevin Ollie....if Purdue was a blue blood sure I'd be wanting better results....but you have no idea where Purdue is in the pecking order....especially since nil has come around....we're overachieving by quite a bit....
Not disagreeing with the comment, Painter is loyal, he’s sticking with Smith.
Tell that to Baylor and/or Gonzaga...
It really shouldn’t be either. Locking smith and loyer in for 4 years means we will have no nba talent starting at our guard positions for the next 3 years, which will limit our potential in the tournament. It’s small time thinking, and frankly lazy imo to just lock them in and not even bring in other guys to seriously compete and potentially beat them out. It’s not like either are carsen/etwaun/jaden level talent. That much is obvious.
Bringing in someone else to compete and potentially take minutes from smith doesn’t make painter disloyal, it means he’s doing his job.
We don't buy like Baylor....how long did it take few to get to a Final four?....
What about him? Are you suggesting he was brought in to challenge for a starting position?
Almost every time I read one of your posts Johnboiler I am reminded of the old saying that all opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.
Why do you think so poor of him?...is it because the recruiting services tell you what to think?....bet you were disappointed when we landed smith, edey, and loyer....
Everyone in the tournament is good. Making a sweet sixteen is a good result.
I want that F4 feeling that I had back in 1980.
The quote above is the basis for all these posts. It’s about what the posters feel and want to feel.
I actually understand and sympathize as I want the same result, as I think most Purdue fans do. The problem is when you convince yourself that because you want something you’re entitled to it and it should happen. When that occurs any rationale that gets in the way of what you want, regardless of how realistic, becomes an excuse. You start pointing to edge cases like Baylor and Gonzaga not as something that has a very small chance of occurring if all the stars align correctly but as something that should happen.
No you didn’t. And I don’t answer your questions because they’re stupid and not relevant to anything being discussed.
He won't come here but let's be real. The guy averaged 13 points a game his sophomore year for the #5 ranked team in the country, He then started most of his Jr year and averaged 14 points per game before being injured. Had an ACL injury at the end of his Jr year but came back to start the last 6 games for the Number 1 ranked team in the country. Started playing big minutes in the last 9 games and averaged 14.4 points per game and scored over 20 in 3 of them.
Painter would find minutes for him if he wanted to come.
We're fine with Smith at the point guard but this guy would play anywhere he chooses to go.
He asked if you thought Jones was brought in to challenge for a starting position. You never answered that.
I would be interested if anyone thinks that's why he was brought in. IMO the answer is no. He was brought in to give Smith a break every so often and to give us another ball handler when needed. I haven't seen anyone on here argue that he is going to take Smith's spot in the starting lineup.
Which brings it back to the original argument of why don't we bring in guys that will challenge Loyer and or Smith for starting jobs and serious minutes? One side says CMP is loyal the other side says he isn't doing his job.
It is definitely still unclear as to why you initially posted "Lance Jones" as a reply.
Sure, it's "good," but there is context. Making the Sweet 16 as a 10-seed is different than making it as a 1, 2, or 3 seed.
Do you disagree?
He can’t give context or it kills his CMP’s success in the dance. The fact that the past SW16 loses where to #15 & first round #13 seeds, then follow up all that success with an opening loss to a #16 team who should not be eligible for the dance.
Jones was brought in because we need quickness, defense, and an extra ball handler....who knows if he can beat out smith.....smith and loyer were two of our best freshmen ever statwise that brought us 2 big ten titles and a 1 seed....they'll have more experience next year...I bet there weren't many portal players better than them and if they were then they probably didn't want to compete for minutes here...I love how everyone is so upset about our year after our massive overachievement....and returning everyone that mattered....if we get goodluck with injuries this will be one of our best teams ever....no one can argue with how this team is set up this year....
Nobody is saying the accomplishment is devalued. Just saying context matters.
Excited to see Jones quickness, ball handling and defensive skills on the floor for the Boilers. That and his experience should earn him a ton of minutes next year at the 1 & 2.
I look at Purdue with Painter and then I look at the Packers with Rodgers and Favre. Are Packers fans happy they made the playoffs almost every single year but only won 2 Super Bowls? I know Lions fans would be happy if their team accomplished what the Packers did! That said, the Packers fired three of their coaches during that era! Reid, Holgrem and McCarthy were just not successful enough.
That’s the problem with success. Once you have it you are not satisfied until you reach the pinnacle. It’s like climbing MT Everest. Making it to that one stopping point is not good enough. What are they Bills and Vikings most noted for? The word choking comes to mind!
That’s the problem with success. Once you have it you are not satisfied until you reach the pinnacle. It’s like climbing MT Everest. Making it to that one stopping point is not good enough. What are they Bills and Vikings most noted for? The word choking comes to mind!
Uh… Holmgren wasn’t fired and Reid was never the Packers head coach… but 1 out of 3 ain’t bad…
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