Love this post. Agree that Purdue is a top 15 to 25 program and at this point MP is a very good but not elite coach. Very few coaches that I would trade for Painter at Purdue but he has to get over the hump and find high level NCAAT success (multiple FF's or NC) to be considered elite.
By your logic, Purdue would have beaten FDU last March if Painter had sat Smith (Smith had........7 TOs.....Dumbazz.......)
I'm not right all the time, but I am most of the time. Don't remember if I said they weren't D1, but that sounds about right. They weren't.
I suspect that things are different now with Bobinski. Back when Willie Dean was playing ...a couple of decades ago, Frank told me that Purdue wanted to be in the top 25...Purdue didn't want to do what was necessary to be as good as possible because Purdue didn't want to be known as a "jock" school. That was his opinion based upon what he knew. I don't know the particulars that would need adjusted or changed back then and therefore will not speculate...just stating what I was told...
If I were coach the Purdue 5 (Zach or Trevion) would get the same respect out on the perimeter. Neither would concern me on the perimeter and that would follow for Jaden as well. All 3 want to score at the rim and so my big would give up the perimeter to all three...and if beat, that would be my choice and playing the odds.
That sounds right. I don't think the University of Athletic Department would have any issue at this point with basketball becoming a perennial top 5 or top 10 program.
I've learned to appreciate some of your views but that's not even close on either count.
Sit smith and put in who dumbazz?.....we have no back up for smith.....we could've played hunter, Thompson, and sasha instead of Ivey last year...limited our turnovers...had Trevion and edey on the block and won going away....if Ivey was in the pnr all a game with williams, they would've set the NCAAT turnover record...he was wanting to show off against st pete, and found out st Pete was pretty athletic....turnovers were the only way we were losing that game and Ivey played right into their hands...if I had a criticism of Painter is that he should've sat Ivey for most of that game....got anymore ideas Einstein?....
He’d find minutes for him, however, a guy isn’t going to come if he’s not asked to, I guarentee Painter didn’t reach out.
Loser mentality is setting lofty goals for a college team when he has no skin in the game. And the same loser claims that it's no different than the lofty goals he sets for himself and that have made him so financially successful. And the same "financially successful" loser who could help Purdue meet those goals if he made NIL commitments, but would rather whine as if nothing can be done but to fire the coach. Loser mentality.
I think that Purdue has a much better chance than all but a handful of Big Ten teams of making the Final Four in the next few seasons. It’s a similar situation to Gonzaga for many years when the knock on Mark Few was that he could never make it to a Final Four.
There's a big difference in how one acts on an anonymous internet message board and how one acts in their professional life. I'm smart enough to understand how to play that game.
Again...you don't sit the best player on the floor and your top 5 draft pick. That's just an idiotic take.
There's Lil Andy, chiming in with the ole reliable "Well, what have you done for NIL!".
We've been saying about Painted coached Purdue teams for a while. Unfortunately, the tourney comes and we get slapped in the face with reality.
Same thing happened with Gonzaga. There is no certain path to getting to a Final Four. But, having a team that is regularly earning high seeds in the NCAA Tournament is a great start.
Yes, there are no guarantees, and making it to the dance and getting a good seed is part of the process. My problem is more with how Painter coached teams react once there. Last year, they were clearly unprepared and playing not to lose. Being scared to shoot and lacking confidence, in my opinion, is a reflection of coaching.
The same thing was said about UVa when they lost to a 16 seed. I’m a Colts fan and the same thing was said about Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning before they won the Super Bowl. Vegas removes the emotion and recognizes that these things very often even out. I give more credence to the smart money than I do to frustrated fans. I totally get the frustration, but I also love where Painter has the program right now.
You can blame coaching prep for poor performance and that's fair, but the other primary factor was that the only 'alpha' guys aside from Zach were the two true freshmen. Ultimately falls on Painter for roster construction but worth noting that he 1) shouldn't be blamed for JI becoming a lottery pick after his sophomore year and 2) made every effort to add an elite guard via the portal in the off season.
Dumbazz....Brees also threw 3 TD passes too...Ivey had more TOs than points til late in the game....are you gonna gripe that we sat Edey that game?....our future NPOY for Trevion...same thing junior....we sat Edey because Trevion was a capable backup...we could've sat Ivey for Thompson, hunter, and sasha....which we did right before the half where we built the lead....it's so cute that you try to talk bball....
I would be very surprised if anyone aside from Smith and Jones take any minutes outside of garbage time at the point. You could see a lineup with Morton playing alongside Heide or Colvin and Smith or Jones.
Depends upon how you define 'major minutes'. Agree that if Ethan isn't shooting 35% + from three and is playing over 20 mpg it's not a great sign as to how Colvin, Heide, Loyer, etc. are developing.
Just holding you to your word. You made a big show of showind disdain for people who welch on their bets. You are in the same boat as those people. All bragging and lying, and when it's time to pay up...?
I believe in Vegas as well. The odds makers are good at their job.
Sorry you're being forced to read and comment.
So, the fact that Brees threw 4 picks, including the one that led to the go-ahead TD with 2 minutes left doesn't matter but the fact that Ivey had 7 TOs but scored most of his points late does? Interesting logic.....
I think Morton gets spot minutes (hopefully very few) to play spaz defense on a hot scorer, just to throw a bigger body at someone. But, he's so inconsistent on offense that it's like having a less athletic Nojel Eastern on the floor.
He has to be able to hit open shots. It will be interesting to see if he can improve on that versus last year. I still struggle to understand how his shooting percentage dropped so much year over year. His volume was up last year but the quality of luxe he was getting was very similar to the year before i.e. a lot of really good open looks.
I don't recall shooting being one of his strengths when he was being recruited. I'm not a shooting mechanics expert but he does have a pretty funky stroke.
Agree. My understanding is that he was a strong shooter / scorer in high school but struggled in shooting in AAP. Not a classic stroke but still shocking (to me anyway) to see him go from shooting 44% as a sophomore to 28% as a junior an essentially the same type of shots.
I’ve always felt like there is a huge mental component in shooting. I’m no sports psychologist, but shooting slumps (and hitting slumps in baseball) can easily become mental and can be difficult to break out of. At the risk of being a bit presumptuous, there were times last season that it just didn’t seem like Morton believed in his own shot. I didn’t notice that the year before.
