Unless there was some underlining reason we don’t know about he seemed to really wear down at the end of the season that showed in his shooting. Longer college floor, faster game, more games and longer travel, bigger and stronger competition! The B1G is a grind!
I agree with this. Loyer definitely appeared to hit the freshman wall and Smith did as well, to a lesser extent. I remain very optimistic about this backcourt.
I would not watch , if I was you.
Agree that is was clear the Fletcher wore down but he didn’t shoot consistently well from three even early in the season. Hopefully a year of adjusting to the further distance and speed of the game in the NCAA resolves that. It would be an enormous win for him to shoot 40% this year. If he can do that, Purdue will be very very difficult to beat.
I truly believe he has the tools to be an elite college shooter. Last year was his adjustment period from High school to College. His stat line wasn't horrible, started as freshman on a top 4-5 team, his dad is scout, his brother was Mr. Basketball and he was a runner-up. That tells me what I need to know about where and how hard he'll prepare to be great.
He shot 37% from 3 for the first 18 games (43/115) and 24% from 3 for the last 17 (16/66). Part of that was defenses adjusting to him, but I really felt like he looked like a player who hit the wall. I expect him to bounce back in a convincing way.
Great stat, thanks for posting👍 I'd add that
Yep. The surprising thing about the first half of the season is that Loyer shot great against schools from power conferences but struggled against small schools, which indicates that he is very capable against top competition. Most shooters are streaky and it is hard to come up with a reason for every slump and hot streak, but I have rarely, if ever, seen a freshman come in and shoot high volumes without some cold streaks along the way.
I think some of that can be attributed to teams not having the opportunity to scout him early in the year. Later, teams have plenty of tape and know his tendencies.
I don't have data to back this up but there were stretches early in the year where he was missing a bunch of wide open looks. Agree that the better the play around him the better looks he'll get and the better he'll shoot, just pointing out that there were stretches where he went cold that I don't think were driven by a lack of good looks.
Supposedly he suffered a hip injury during the season also.
Both. If a starting caliber PG comes in a wins the starting job from Smith, so be it.
I wasn't asking you, I know your answer
Nobody gonna beat out smith at pg...he was a big reason we got a 1 seed....as bilas said....smith is a baller...
Wasn't edey ranked 440th?...we needed a defender and someone with quickness...that's what jones brings....gotta look at roster fit vs bringing in a gunner....if you're looking at rankings only look no further at how poorly iu is put together....they're gonna struggle this year....
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Smith might be a baller, but he's not the the best PG in the country. If there were a starter from a high major program interested in transferring to Purdue, Painter would absolutely have to give him a serious look.
Edey is an outlier, and even so, it's not like Edey has led Purdue on deep tourney runs during his career. Finding needles in the haystack does not give affirmation to Painter's recruiting.
Never said he's the best pg in the country but if you look at how well he performed in our system and with edey he's far from the problem on this team...in fact he's our second most valuable player...his only problem is that we had no adequate backup pg last year so teams would run smith ragged....Jones was a perfect pickup in that regard....you're going to see a totally different team at guard next year....our biggest need is scoring at the wing....hopefully Colvin and Heide will fix that....it sounds promising from what painter has said in interviews....
Needles in the haystack may be your opinion but Painter seems to find them more than most....maybe he's a good talent evaluator?....smith out performed his ranking, loyer did too...Ivey and carsen did too if you want to go back a few years...I have a feeling Colvin will be the next guy people ask where he came from....that's why I'm optimistic about jones...Painter didn't waste anytime getting him in the portal...he knew how valuable he would be for us....
We all pretty much know who 1 is, if it’s a guy that is a legacy that hardly played last year so be it. Teams need guys like this on the squad, also, maybe he’ll be totally healthy and contribute a bit this year, it doesn’t hurt having him around.
I don't disagree. I'm on record for not being happy with the Smith scholie offer but he proved me wrong and I gave him lots of kudos. He was much better than expected. But again, if there were a chance to get an NBA size/skilled PG, you'd make that addition in a heartbeat.
It depends on what your criteria and measurement for success are. If it's deep runs in March, then Painter's recruiting rankings are almost on par with where the tourney exits are happening.
We all agree on the 1, I guess I'll stick with that. The other guy I was considering will probably develop into a good role player off the bench, probably won't be a star but solid bench minutes in his career.
Next three years (not 4) losing to double digit seeds, one of which was also a SS.
I would bet significant money that Braden will outplay half of those guys this season. EDIT: that list was from last seasonNCAA Basketball: Ranking the 20 point guards for 2022-23 Bob Cousy Award
There are 20 talented NCAA Basketball players in early contention for the Bob Cousy Award for best point guard in 2022-23. Who has the best shot at winning?bustingbrackets.com
