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9 man rotation prediction with minutes

If only Painter and staff had access to deep data and assigned playing time using an analytics informed approach rather than just relying on gut feel and guys they like.

In all seriousness, who knows, maybe Meyer and / or the two sophomores will be superstars and your minute allocation will be right. That would be pretty cool.
Painter HATES analytics…right? 😂 😂 😂

But yeah I know deep down Loyer Smith and TKR will be 30, 35 and 30 (at least).
 
Painter HATES analytics…right? 😂 😂 😂

But yeah I know deep down Loyer Smith and TKR will be 30, 35 and 30 (at least).
It would be awesome if one of the younger guys pulled a CE and was a stud next season in a way that wasn’t really expected but yeah, barring that I think those guys play a ton of minutes and rightly so.
 
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Smith - 36+
Cox - 18-20
Loyer - 28+/-
TKR - 30+
Cluff - 22

Mayer - 18-20
Harris - 18-20
Murphy - 10+/-
Jacobson -18

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Burgess
Benter
West

Smith-would like to see his minutes come down some with more experience from the supporting cast but it’ll be hard to keep him off the court.

Cox/Harris/Mayer- take your pick, hot hand gets the most minutes but all can play with each other also so all will get their fair share. Cox/Harris can be difference makers on defense and Mayer will help with his passing/shooting ability.

Loyer- the guys listed above hopefully support enough so it lowers his average from last year(31min) but Fletch sees plenty of minutes still.

TKR- easy pick for 30+.

Cluff- starts and earns more minutes at the beginning of the season due to experience. Could we see him at the 4 to spell TKR and get Jacobson in the game?!

Jacobson- 7’4” will be hard to keep off the floor if he proves he belongs. Could be a 50/50split with Cluff eventually.

Murphy- hot hand plays more not so much will loose minutes. The kid can really shoot it from deep so hopefully the hot hand makes it hard on Painter.

Burgess- gets minutes somewhere if healthy but if not maybe a RS…?

Benter- wild card guy. He gets some but minutes will be hard to come by this year unless Murphy and others aren’t producing.

West- will struggle to find minutes his first year with lots of experience infront of him, maybe a RS?
 
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Loyer had to play more last season in that trend line simply due to the lack of weapons.
Doubt that is case next year.
Loyer has played because he has an elite impact on offense and rarely misses assignment of defense. All conference level skill.

It will be a big ask for any of the first or second year players to take minutes from him, but who knows, maybe one or more of those guys are ready to be stars.
 
There’s a lot of talent to possibly reduce Fletches PT. I think Benter, Harris, and possibly Mayer and West who could challenge for playing time. Fletch will start but i believe gives up minutes to others unless he’s on fire in a game. You likely aren’t off by much though and i think it will all depend on in game performance specific for PT among the 2/3 position… might even see Murphy tried at the 3 spot if his 3 point shooting stays above 40%.
I’d like to see Mayer and/or Cox or Harris spell Smith to get his avg to around 35. If Mayer turns out to absolutely earn time making it difficult to not give him more time and his PG skills are as advertised he might see more time at the point than we expect.
I also hope DJ comes out fit, heavier and hungry and pulls an Edey in that Paint feels he’s got to be the starter between he and Cluff. That’d be a great situation for the team having two starters to rotate. I hope Paint finds his life extremely difficult going into the season and all the returning players make a jump and the new guys are great fits and bring more to the team than expected. I for some reason have a feeling that we’re all gonna be pleasantly surprised by Benter, we’ll see. BTFU!!!
I have hopes for Cluff, but you can't teach 7'4" AND good timing and instincts on blocking shots. Cluff might even be a "better" (at this point) all around center BUT it's hard to define the value of a true rim protector. (it's high though)
Especially on team where the guards aren't world class quick and getting beat off the dribble has been a concern for 3 seasons now.
I'd be fine with Cluff proving to be the better all around and taking prime minutes.
But I don't think for more than a second that it's going to happen. That big D just gonna be TOO valuable.
 
Loyer has played because he has an elite impact on offense and rarely misses assignment of defense. All conference level skill.

It will be a big ask for any of the first or second year players to take minutes from him, but who knows, maybe one or more of those guys are ready to be stars.
We have been blessed to have Fletch at Purdue, he has won a ton of games for us. As far as minutes, I find most the banter here kinda of a waste of time, but we know for a fact Braden is going to be on the court, so his minutes are kinda of know, minute distriputation is going to base on strength of schedule mainly. Is pre-conference schedule going to be a little softer and the BT conference schedule is it going to a very TOP headed monster this year? I see 3 or 4 very good BT teams, 4 or 5 more who should dance, 2 or 3 who are BUBBLE and 4 to 6 who should be in the MAC. Purdue is a better team than last year, more scoring options, more aggressive on defense, deeper at each spot. So Braden is still going to get his 30+, but Loyer, TKR at 25+, with DJ, Cox, Harris, Mayer, Cluff all around 20, Murphy, Benter and West sharing 10! The one guy who could really change the minutes for everyone except Braden, is Burgess! Just have this feeling he is going to rise to the top, and its crowded!
 
I have hopes for Cluff, but you can't teach 7'4" AND good timing and instincts on blocking shots. Cluff might even be a "better" (at this point) all around center BUT it's hard to define the value of a true rim protector. (it's high though)
Especially on team where the guards aren't world class quick and getting beat off the dribble has been a concern for 3 seasons now.
I'd be fine with Cluff proving to be the better all around and taking prime minutes.
But I don't think for more than a second that it's going to happen. That big D just gonna be TOO valuable.
Thats my worry with Cluff, he is a little slow, I do actually think by the middle of BT season DJ and Burgess will be taking some minutes away from Cluff because they are better athletes on the defense side of the ball. Painter has a lot of depth at the 4 and 5.
 
Thats my worry with Cluff, he is a little slow, I do actually think by the middle of BT season DJ and Burgess will be taking some minutes away from Cluff because they are better athletes on the defense side of the ball. Painter has a lot of depth at the 4 and 5.
I won't argue with the Cluff losing minutes statement, but depth at the 4 and 5 is just ok. Our real depth is at the 2/3, with Loyer, Cox, Harris, Omer, Benter, West, and Liam all fighting for 80 minutes available. That's only 11 minutes of playing time per player, and we know Loyer is playing more than 11.

Compare that to the front court where you have 4 players splitting 80 minutes and it's really not that deep, more of just right as long as we don't have any injuries. I suppose Benter or Liam could play spot 4 minutes in a small lineup, but with the frontcourt we have I don't see that being likely.
 
We have been blessed to have Fletch at Purdue, he has won a ton of games for us. As far as minutes, I find most the banter here kinda of a waste of time, but we know for a fact Braden is going to be on the court, so his minutes are kinda of know, minute distriputation is going to base on strength of schedule mainly. Is pre-conference schedule going to be a little softer and the BT conference schedule is it going to a very TOP headed monster this year?
We have another TOUGH non conference this year and B1G will be better than last year.
I see 3 or 4 very good BT teams, 4 or 5 more who should dance, 2 or 3 who are BUBBLE and 4 to 6 who should be in the MAC. Purdue is a better team than last year, more scoring options, more aggressive on defense, deeper at each spot. So Braden is still going to get his 30+, but Loyer, TKR at 25+, with DJ, Cox, Harris, Mayer, Cluff all around 20, Murphy, Benter and West sharing 10! The one guy who could really change the minutes for everyone except Braden, is Burgess!
No way we go 10+ deep and no way TKR is only at 25+. TKR will be 32+ and fletch will probably be around 27+.
Just have this feeling he is going to rise to the top, and it’s crowded!
I’d imagine RB may redshirt to have a full offseason to get healthy.
 
I won't argue with the Cluff losing minutes statement, but depth at the 4 and 5 is just ok. Our real depth is at the 2/3, with Loyer, Cox, Harris, Omer, Benter, West, and Liam all fighting for 80 minutes available. That's only 11 minutes of playing time per player, and we know Loyer is playing more than 11.

Compare that to the front court where you have 4 players splitting 80 minutes and it's really not that deep, more of just right as long as we don't have any injuries. I suppose Benter or Liam could play spot 4 minutes in a small lineup, but with the frontcourt we have I don't see that being likely.
Murphy will be a 4…
 
Thats my worry with Cluff, he is a little slow, I do actually think by the middle of BT season DJ and Burgess will be taking some minutes away from Cluff because they are better athletes on the defense side of the ball. Painter has a lot of depth at the 4 and 5.
I think Cluff will be just fine.

DJ played 1.03 games last year (26 total mins). I think he can get there, but he’s not going to be up to game speed for probably the first part of the season. He will still need to adjust to everything during games. I hope he’s what you all think he is right away, but may need to lower expectations for a little bit. He’s still a Frosh that doesn’t have much in game experience at all.

With that said, I fully expect him to be killin it for us by mid Feb.
 
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