BBG said:

Not obsess over what we're saying here maybe?

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SIBoiler2 said:

Coach Walters is not a DEI hire. He was a woefully under prepared hire. Doesn't matter what color a coach is, if he/she produces the same results they should be removed. If he/she is successful, their hiring should have been based on qualifications. Clearly our AD failed in the vetting process.

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BB62 said:

And we're seeing your side do it right now in Oklahoma. Why can't you ever admit you guys do it too?

I am against any religious exercise at a government function, school or otherwise. It's likely there are football players on the team that are non Christian. Jews, Muslims, people who don't have religious beliefs. But it happens all the time at school functions outside the classroom. Sports events, commencements, meetings. Guess what? 99.99% of the time we non Christians say nothing. I bow my head out of respect for YOUR RELIGION even though I don't believe in it. We just let it go. Live and let live.

You MAGA grievance warriors should try it sometime.

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BB62 said:

I don't believe teachers should promote any political or religious beliefs in the classroom. I assume the alphabet soup flag refers to something LGBTQ. Lifestyles shouldn't be promoted either.

A good teacher should promote intelligent and respectful debate on such topics while taking no positions on them. I'm good with that. Many people aren't, on both sides of the aisle.

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Boiler Buck said:

Thought it was B10+....is it not?

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boilerzz said:

Not sure what is going on with him at K-State but Woof!

Season	Team	Conf	Class	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	Awards
2020-21	Illinois	Big Ten	FR	F	25	0	6.3	0.4	1.2	.345	0.1	0.5	.231	0.3	0.6	.438	.397	0.5	0.8	.684	0.4	0.5	0.8	0.4	0.1	0.4	0.2	0.6	1.4
2021-22	Illinois	Big Ten	SO	F	33	14	19.0	2.1	4.7	.442	0.6	2.0	.292	1.5	2.7	.551	.503	1.2	1.8	.650	1.4	2.8	4.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	1.4	1.9	5.9
2022-23	Illinois	Big Ten	JR	F	33	33	32.5	3.7	8.5	.441	1.1	4.0	.280	2.6	4.5	.585	.507	1.3	2.1	.614	1.9	4.3	6.3	3.0	1.1	1.2	2.5	1.8	9.9
2023-24	Illinois	Big Ten	SR	F	35	35	31.6	4.1	9.1	.451	1.7	4.6	.369	2.4	4.5	.535	.544	2.2	2.7	.792	1.4	4.7	6.1	2.7	1.5	1.1	1.6	2.6	12.1
2024-25	Kansas State	Big 12	SR	F	4	4	31.8	2.3	9.3	.243	0.8	3.8	.200	1.5	5.5	.273	.284	1.5	2.5	.600	3.0	4.0	7.0	4.0	2.3	1.5	2.3	1.0	6.8

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bonefish1 said:

I would have like to have seen another bigger guard who can get his own shot, penetrate and finish. Marquette exposed our lack of athleticism at the guard spot, same as Uconn did.

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proudopete said:

If I were a basketball season ticket holder I would be pissed to have so many games against sisters of the poor type scrubs. I could never imagine Paint trying to push that down the throats of the fans.

I also noticed they shot about 29% from 3. Woof

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BBG said:

Did you really come here at 2 am and post this? Good Lord the obsession is real.

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iubhounds said:

USC will beat ND in Los Angeles.

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New Pal Boiler said:

Between me opining that Vince McMahon also deserves a Cabinet spot, and then rooting heartily for both Army and Ohio State, I might end up irritating just about everyone.

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TC4THREE said:

IU always made up for playing in the big ten East by scheduling crap out of conference. Tradition appears to continue.

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TC4THREE said:

If Indiana gets in while losing to Ohio State, I think the blueprint is there.

1. Have a decent team.
2. Schedule nobody in the non-conference. Remember they bought out the Louisville game they had scheduled.
3. Have a conference schedule in one of these new mega conferences where you miss most or all of the best teams and beat the lower level teams.

Personally, I would not reward a team sitting on the fence that schedules so poorly out of conference. You can't control the conference schedule but if you happen to have a really bad one and don't beat any quality teams, and didn't play any out of conference, I don't think that should be rewarded. If it is, we're going to see some really boring Septembers in college football in the near future because if all that matters is wins then there is no incentive to play decent competition.

Reminds me of qualifying for the NCAA tournament and the Quad wins. The value of your opponents and wins matter. They should in football as well. When a team is on the bubble in February and March, beating the last place team on your homecourt doesn't move you. It shouldn't in football either.

That said, I think it's absurd that any conference should get more than 2 teams in the playoffs. Certainly not 4. The conference season should determine who the best teams are in each conference. If that's impossible because we now barely play half the other teams in the Big Ten and SEC each year, that's too bad for those conferences. Find a better format or way to determine your champion.

Of course that's exactly why the new playoff format skipped right from 4 teams, over the logical number of 8, and directly to 12. The Big Ten and SEC run the show now and want to flood the field with 3/4 teams each for money. Just a terrible setup from the start. I don't care to watch SEC football in the regular season and I certainly don't care to watch them rematch in the playoffs. And you know when Indiana and Penn State should play? During the conference season. Then one of them would have a quality win and we would know who belongs in the playoffs.

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BB62 said:

Isn't the argument against DEI hires is that they aren't qualified and only got the job because of DEI? If they're qualified what's the point? Just to complain about DEI?

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BBG said:

It's okay, they're a "football school" now.. well .. or so I've been told. Until that flops .. then their a soccer school..

Then again, the term "football" can technically apply to two sports I guess.

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iubhounds said:

Coaches don't think like fans. There will be coaches rushing to interview if called, sinking ship or not. Example ... Bostad left Wisconsin for Tom Allen's sinking ship and then gets hired by the new staff ... the only one from the old IU staff. He just likes coaching football and liked the old school approach he heard from Cignetti. The point being he came to a sinking ship.

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Quix0te said:

I didn't say they weren't qualified and they may indeed have been "outstanding" but Brown was clearly a DEI hire. Biden announced he would consider no one other than a black woman for the job. That's a DEI hire. Period. Squeal and distort and evade all you wish. That doesn't change the fact that this was a DEI hire.

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ChoiceBeef said:

That has been my biggest question on replacing staff but keeping Walters. It is like being asked to be the new CFO of Enron after the fraud investigation started. Or being tasked with leading the Mortgage Backed Securities desk at Merrill Lynch in 2009.....no one in their right mind wants to be tied to this sinking ship

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BNIBoiler said:

Biden never targeted black men for Def Secretary. But yet Lloyd Austin, with extensive military leadership background, is still called a DEI hire. Coach Walters is considered a DEI hire. On and on. Justice Ketanji Brown. As soon as she was announced that she was chosen to be justice folks here immediately attacked her intelligence. Yet her qualifications that preceded her was comparable or superseded the other justices including Uncle Clarence Thomas. Speaking of which, since he was nominated by a Republican president, I never hear anyone say that he was a DEI hire.

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TC4THREE said:

IU may well make the playoffs. I'm sure I haven't kept up with the speculation like all their fans in this thread. My opinion will remain the same no matter what happens and that's nobody with their schedule should be in unless they beat Ohio State. It sends a really bad message to all of college football.

So if ESPN says they'll get in, that's great for them.

We can all leave it at that and just see how it plays out. Good luck.

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Quix0te said:

That's exactly the problem. We have seen first-hand that Putin is not rational, and he has 9,600 nuclear warheads (according to SALT). He warned that any former USSR nation joining NATO would be an act of war, and when Ukraine merely completed the paperwork, Putin started a war. Putin now warns that he may use tactical nuclear missiles if the West provides Ukraine with long-range missiles. Why in God's name would the Biden zombie want to tweak this madman?

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