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Purdue at Marquette: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

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The issue was that our guards couldn't get free. We were receiving the ball well above the three point line with a man right up on us. That ball pressure made entry passes hard, and because they were quicker than us at almost every position, most of our players couldn't penetrate at all.

Plus way too few times could we shake free for wide open shots.

So few post ups and dump downs, few successful drives, and few open threes leads to a really bad night. Plus we got outrebounded and the turnovers, steals and blocks.

Thought the defense was respectable, but man the offense was horrible. I just don't think this Berg experiment makes sense anymore, and Furst isn't athletic enough for teams like Marquette.

I still maintain our best shot is TKR in the middle and four wings. Even with all the turnovers and whatnot we still didn't give up a ton of points, and it's not like Berg or Furst are really any better at rim protection than TKR right now. Whatever they are giving us isn't worth what we lose. Obviously they need to play some minutes since TKR can't play 40 a night, but I think starting Berg doesn't make much sense anymore.
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SaratogaBoiler1 said:
November road game against a team who wanted revenge from last year and played like it. We have major issues at the 5 obviously but these games make you better. It’s why we are playing a tough non conference schedule - learn from it and keep improving. If we hadn’t beaten #2 Alabama last game the sky would be falling but it’s not!
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Purdue 1-1 in Quad 1 games, no disgrace in that.....and Painter is taking a page out of Izzo's book with the non-conference scheduling. Really got sped up and unwound big time tonight. The last three years was somewhat improbable to go unscathed. Sometimes, you get beat up a little, but it hardens you for March/April.

We shall see.
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Roeder said:
I love the defense and rebounding. His shot will come back around.

I just wish he was a threat to take his man of dribble and score ar rim when his shot isn't falling.
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This is a real thing. Colvin just can’t dribble the ball. He tried a drive tonight, which I think may have been the first time I’ve ever seen him dribble, and it just resulted in an ugly miss. He has no offensive game whatsoever beyond catch and shoot from 3. Same with Heide. They are what they are.
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POTFHBTFU said:
I don’t typically believe in moral victories but this was a good lesson. Case in point is the the most poise came from the experienced players as I thought Furst played well and kinda went down the line with the freshmen really struggling. It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.
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Totally agreed—Those who loathe Purdue would say we got “Mackey-ed” tonight….
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POTFHBTFU said:
It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.
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Right, that’s why you play these games. Not going to get those calls and n the road in the BIG either. Learn to play through it.
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northside100 said:
Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.
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I don’t typically believe in moral victories but this was a good lesson. Case in point is the the most poise came from the experienced players as I thought Furst played well and kinda went down the line with the freshmen really struggling. It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.
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Wolegib said:
The key to this game is to be able to learn from it. We all knew before the game that this would be a tough game to win and a tough team to beat on their home court.

The key now is what lessons did Purdue learn from this loss and will they be able to fix them?

Last year at this time, the question being asked was how can you defeat Purdue with Edey in the middle? Several teams came close. By sagging on Edey and daring Purdue to shoot more threes to win. And Purdue responded by taking and making more 3 point shots.

I guarantee teams were watching both Purdue and Marquette tonight and will copy what they saw as being effective. If Loyer has issues against big physical guards, we will see more of them. If berg is slow and burgess keeps running out of gas, teams will continue to run and play an up tempo game.

I guarantee, unless we learn, the things you complained about will reoccur! Last year, we won a lot of our preseason games, but some were close. As a team, we learned and improved. That will be the key to our success this year! Learn and improve!

I give props to Marquette. They are a good team and deserved to win. I’m hoping for a rematch in April to show them how much we learned.
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after watching this game, I can see us in the Dance facing one of those quick small ball teams from some lower level conference giving us a major fit
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ImRonBurgandy? said:
What the heck happened to Colvins offense? Need him to be a threat out there. He went from getting his to pretty passive.
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I love the defense and rebounding. His shot will come back around.

I just wish he was a threat to take his man of dribble and score ar rim when his shot isn't falling.
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November road game against a team who wanted revenge from last year and played like it. We have major issues at the 5 obviously but these games make you better. It’s why we are playing a tough non conference schedule - learn from it and keep improving. If we hadn’t beaten #2 Alabama last game the sky would be falling but it’s not!
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