We have a young team. The only way for them to learn and get better is to play better competition.

This tough schedule will help them as the year goes on, and it will also help them for next year.

It’s good. You know where you stand among good teams and learn from the mistakes. The selection committee gives you credit for the tough schedule.

TKR wasn’t the problem Saturday. 16 turnovers, 20 fouls and being out rebounded 34-23 was the problem.

awthomps said:

Let’s hope because this is starting to look like a repeat of two years ago…slow rollout on coaching staff, lots of uncertainty for players, biggest pieces of the roster leaving. It’s almost like BoBo doesn’t get the relevance of 24/7 media in this situation. Whoever in the AD thought Sunday morning announcements were a good idea, and then going radio silent for weeks on end should be fired. Recruits, transfers, agents, and parents are all getting their Purdue information the same way we are - and I’ve seen more coverage on how historically bad we were this season than what is happening to correct things. Odom looks like a solid hire, our AD looks lost - the same as last time.

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Odom already said the people he’s targeted won’t come until the bowl game is over. I’d imagine most are his UNLV staffers. They aren’t done until Wednesday night.

Not sure what you want out of him outside of that. If his staff is finishing out commitments they are finishing out commitments.

Wouldn’t you rather have Odom get his guys he wants to work with or would you rather him hire unemployed bums just because they aren’t doing anything and can start a week earlier?

You haven’t even given this guy a chance before you e started to complain

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Wolegib said:

People always love the portal when they add somebody. Purdue basketball fans loved the addition of lance jones.

Fans always hate when players leave.

Eventually minor leagues will be formed as more and more athletes will just want to play sports rather than attend classes. And soon there after colleges will just schedule traveling athletic teams as if they are performing artists.

Look at this board. Fans don’t really want to see student athletes perform. What they want to see is a football team wearing our colors play and winning on Saturday. You could care less about their majors or their gpa as long as they can score and we win the game. They are no longer students in your mind. They are athletes. Are they worth $5 million each. So you can be entertained? I’ve already found cheaper entertainment to occupy my Saturdays. I’m still a fan, but I don’t feel a student needs to be paid money to play for their school.

You might say I wear my Purdue shirt because I’m proud I graduated from Purdue. Rather than to say I’m some Purdue football groupie that needs to yell , scream and get drunk on Saturdays. Concerts are a lot cheaper and more entertaining. Wierd Al, and trans Siberian orchestra are traveling. Ticket prices are $50 - 250.

Ask yourself what football game you’re looking forward to seeing next year. To me the SIU game is the same price and we might win. To me, winning is what matters and makes people happy. Nobody here was happy when we almost won those 3 games. You were just as unhappy after the overtime losses as you were after being blown out.

Just read your comments . After every loss you told me to stfu. It didn’t matter what the score was.

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You’re trying to tell me that whole orchestra is Trans?

awthomps said:

If that’s the case … and the National reports I’ve seen suggest that outside of about 20 programs most schools are paying comparable nil ($30-60k average in football) with Purdue at the lower end, but with other B1G programs that didn’t just toss an entire season below and around us…then what are you suggesting?

Maybe (and this is just hypothetical) Purdue provides the kind of conservative education that makes people think about the value of their money and paying 18 year olds to play a game doesn’t strike us as a good value. You’re not going to convince people to give on a free message board, and if you think that shaming them here is a good strategy then I may really know why our nil collective is crap.

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LOL. Conjecture much?

I think it’s stupid to spend money on these kids. They aren’t worth it.

That said, if we don’t we will absolutely lose kids like Thieneman to the ones who are willing to spend. You have to be realistic. We’ll spend enough to field a roster and hopefully we have the coaching to make them competitive. If we do t spend big $, we won’t keep the guys like Scourton, Thineman, etc who are looking for a payday to leave. It’s not a complicated premise.

Again, I’m not advocating for it but if we don’t we have a ceiling for sure.

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northside100 said:

So ido you think that’s a maturity/experience thing? Painter talks all the time about making the right read, surely one of the reads is if a guy comes flying at you on a closeout or if you have ISO and the defense we is overplaying you on the three point line you can look to drive?

I haven’t rewatched it but my sense was that’s what Cam did on his drive.

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yes with a hard close out that would be the right read and Cam did that. However, I'm talking about being part of the offense independent of what mistakes the D makes. I would like to see more screens and curls for Myles and Cam as part of the regular offense. Not enough that it takes the ball out of Braden's hands and loses the main three scorers, but enough that they are a threat other than behind the arc.

Boilerfla said:

Good thing! Teams play/grow to the level of the competition……assuming they have cognitive and physical ability to do so, these Boilers have both

While DJ was a frosh and slim, he would have been a difference maker on 1 or 2 of losses

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maybe all????

tjreese said:

I don't think it is practiced inside a set. I don't think they run a set for Myles or Cam to come off a screen and curl towards the lane to receive a pass...and so should it happen...lack of confidence could easily be in play...and the sets being ran may not have the freedom for each unless uncontested to drive the ball?

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So ido you think that’s a maturity/experience thing? Painter talks all the time about making the right read, surely one of the reads is if a guy comes flying at you on a closeout or if you have ISO and the defense we is overplaying you on the three point line you can look to drive?

I haven’t rewatched it but my sense was that’s what Cam did on his drive.

Dribble and drive camp this summer!

Sorry, I’m too old to use the word handle 🥴

Handle and drive camp this summer!

Good thing! Teams play/grow to the level of the competition……assuming they have cognitive and physical ability to do so, these Boilers have both

While DJ was a frosh and slim, he would have been a difference maker on 1 or 2 of losses

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proudopete said:

Is it a good thing or a bad thing for this squad to play this tough of a schedule?

Personally, I think it’s a good thing and taking our lumps early is good for team chemistry and for the new guys to learn from the older guys.

We won’t be seeing a top seed in the tourney but this team will be experienced once March rolls around. Get the right draw and who knows how far these guys can go.

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It's good. This is a year where you just want to make the dance and hope you get hot and the cards fall your way. Playing with house money.

The tough schedule will also hopefully help the team hit their stride during the meat of the B1G schedule.

Russ Ford said:

The outside shooting is biggest problem. Knock down a reasonable amount of your threes and make your free throws and this is a different game.

Coach Gearlds needs to hit the portal hard and find a couple of knock down shooters.

I love Lana McCarthy and I think she is going to be very good for Purdue. Got to work on those free throws though. She wasn't even close on most of those misses.

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Yeah I'd like to see Collier shoot more 3's, I think she's our best shooter. 0-3 tonight but she looks the most natural of all our options. Draw up more plays to get her open, because she isn't going to shake a defender and step back to hit one.

Agreed though, we need more shooters, Collier was the only one from the portal CKG grabbed. Lombard ended up being a surprise from 3 this year.

What's a bit worrisome is, I believe the plan as of now for the 25' class is the 3 we have now and a portal guard. Idk how good of a shooter dounwstra is, so that portal guard better be a shooter. Maybe K Reynolds develops a shot but I don't think she's known for it right now.

That's why Mckenna should get some more run as well.

TwinDegrees2 said:

It happens. Worked with a guy who at the age of 62 along with his 26-year-old wife had twin boys. He loved being a dad at that age.

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Any chance this dude's name was Holling Vincoeur, the wife was Shelly Tambo, and they ran a tavern in Ciceley, Alaska?

POTFHBTFU said:

He did. But when the coach brings his kid after you commit it changes the circumstances.

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that's a pretty bad reason if that's the case

northside100 said:

Which is crazy because it should actually be easier to penetrate against hard close outs and defenses focused on not allowing uncontested threes. As someone else posted, I think it’s a comfort / confidence issue with those two.

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I don't think it is practiced inside a set. I don't think they run a set for Myles or Cam to come off a screen and curl towards the lane to receive a pass...and so should it happen...lack of confidence could easily be in play...and the sets being ran may not have the freedom for each unless uncontested to drive the ball?

Gman544 said:

I will ask you the questions I asked on another thread. It would be helpful. Do they have the handles to do so against the better teams, with good to great athletes?

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Well, Myles and Cam are probably as good an athlete as those that defend them. Does that translate into dribbling the ball against them? I don't know since we haven't seen many attempts. If they can, I would like to see them do it more. If they can't...why...what do they need to do so they can? I do NOT know specifically what the players work on, but dribbling the ball and pulling up for a short jumper should be attainable..."IF" that is desired inside the offense Matt wants. I'm not talking about dribbling from the top of the key to the rim. I'm talking about either player taking two or three dribbles and pulling up. If coming off a screen and curling and such they should be able to get the ball and with either one or two dribbles be in the lane, balanced and pull up for a short jumper. Defenders don't want to foul jump shooters and both can elevate enough to essentially not be defended for a soft jumper. Naturally, this would take place on the wing opposite of the low/mid post that Trey was on so his big was pulled over a couple of feet. If not coming off a screen and curling towards the lane, but just needing to attack off the dribble and already with the ball...make sure that first step is NOT wide so the D that is reactionary doesn't have the extra space to catch up. Both have to become deadly, but being able to score at all three levels would make this team much better.

Again, we are not talking about taking it to the rim from behind the arc, but merely getting into the lane...just getting into the lane. The lane is 12 feet wide or 6 feet from the center of the rim. The arc is around 22 feet and so we are talking about 15/16 feet of travel that a player may have a ball of could be looking for a pass? It doesn't take many dribbles if dribbling with a purpose to go that far and so I definitely think it is attainable if the coaches want it and the players practice it. Curling off a screen may only have one dribble to get in the lane. Certainly if effective, teams would start to bring some help to stop them and they would then need to be able to pass the ball to teammate whose defender is helping and THAT may be more difficult. Dribbling for a layup is not as easy if covered.

IronChefBBQ said:

You don’t think that he’ll be able to get boosters with non-UNC ties..? 🤣

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Your childish, dickhead comment makes no sense. Why should Belichick get boosters with non-UNC ties? "Hey, I'm a Duke fan. I'm agonna donate to Coach Belichick at UNC, yessir."

ImRonBurgandy? said:

Doesnt think he can beat out G. Odom? If that's the reason, probably good that he looks somewhere else now.

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Maybe it is better, not that we have a choice. It used to be kids thrived to compete. Playing hard to beat out the coach's son would be more rewarding.