DwaynePurvis00 said:

TJ, what do you see in the offensive sets tho? I just see Colvin and Heide not even looking to shoot or attack. Not even dribble with purpose to a spot or break their man down. They either get the ball and look for the next step in the offensive set, which is usually to Loyer or Smith OR they stand in the corner and watch TKR back down his man or Loyer or smith try to create something that’s not there.

I assume paint is trying to run stuff through the big 3, but Colvin and Heide are absolutely non existent at times. And vs teams that apply a lot of pressure, those 2 could be an X factor to break down that type of defense.

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I’m on a phone and won’t type much which many will appreciate. Matt gives a LOT of freedom to his coaches and have no idea how much influence PJ has. That said, prior to Zach Purdue ran things for Dakota coming off pin downs and many coming off of off ball screens. Matt has a lot of sets that don’t involve high ball screens by the 5 as most his career did not involve such. Perhaps he needs to incorporate some of those as well? Are there times he just has a designated screener that slips, dives and pops when more in motion.

Bottom line is that Purdue needs counters against pressure as a team and traditionally that has been a weaker area of Matt’s IMO. You have to back off the pressure, especially if the refs are slow with the pea to counter. Second, might get by with one player not scoring, but not two. Need to get something out of Myles and cam on offense. I’m typing this while at father in law’s Christmas gathering. 😊

jdbrees922 said:

The pick and roll with Renn isn’t working. What happened to the motion offense we ran before Edey . Get those 2 guys involved, not just someone who sits in the corner. I think it’s the offense more than them , but do agree they both need to be aggressive and they’re not. If you’re gonna move Cox and Burgess to the starting lineup then bench Heide or Colvin but not both, and Loyer sits cause we would be awful small otherwise

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Agreed. Need everyone involved on offense. Can’t run the edey offense with TKR, especially if he’s not hitting his FTs at a high clip. Just get guys open shots, don’t matter how. And attack the damn basket off the dribble.

BoilerNGold013 said:

Seems like short comings were exposed against less than the best team in the country ala penn st and texas am

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Auburn is special if they can stay healthy. They can win it all. But yea, agree rid what you said about Penn state. On the flip side, I am glad paint challenges his guys with these type of games. We could be playing the chatanoogas and Miami of ohios and struggle with them and then be surprised when they play an actual team and get blown out. So there’s that.

I think we still make the tourney as a 5-7 seed and hopefully make a little S16 run

The pick and roll with Renn isn’t working. What happened to the motion offense we ran before Edey . Get those 2 guys involved, not just someone who sits in the corner. I think it’s the offense more than them , but do agree they both need to be aggressive and they’re not. If you’re gonna move Cox and Burgess to the starting lineup then bench Heide or Colvin but not both, and Loyer sits cause we would be awful small otherwise

tjreese said:

Purdue was much slower than Auburn and was sped up. I hope Purdue gets to play them again. 😁

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At this point it'll be in a 1-9 second round game.

Boiler8285 said:

SEC never embraced the whole "student athlete" thing and in today's world they will thrive. Amazing Pearl is now a saint after his shenanigans at UT. It's a new world with pay to play and unlimited free agency.

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Plus, he knows how to throw a good BBQ.....haha.

BB62 said:

DEI was intended to give those minorities who ARE SMART ENOUGH AND GOOD ENOUGH to get jobs they were denied for decades. That was a REAL THING. Do you remember? Or are you gonna deny that it ever happened?

Now, while in some cases it has gone too far and needs to be reevaluated, it doesn't mean there aren't racist asswipes out there who are still denying qualified people positions based on their color, ethnicity, or religion.

You can take solace that when our institutions go to hell because of unqualified people who are focused on the wrong thing, DEI will be no more. I guess you can only blame the white people then.

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That’s the thing that I have trying to convey. They are conditioned to believe that blacks and other minorities are not smart enough and good enough to be hired for the same positions as whites. But since in their minds, white women are smart enough and they say absolutely nothing about them benefitting from affirmative action/DEI more than any other minority.

TC4THREE said:

Congratulations. At the end of your best season ever you're stuck bragging about beating a 1-11 opponent.

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The team that didn't opt out playing the tough teams on your schedule.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

CJ Cox ends up leading the team in scoring with 16 (3/5 from deep) 7/7 FT's.....wasn't in crunch time, but maybe it's a spark - he does need more minutes. Burgess 7/4 in mop-up duty.

Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Alabama, A & M going to have some battles - Ole Miss and Mississippi State can play as well. SEC is cashing in these days.

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SEC never embraced the whole "student athlete" thing and in today's world they will thrive. Amazing Pearl is now a saint after his shenanigans at UT. It's a new world with pay to play and unlimited free agency.

Gman544 said:

Agree with about every thing said, but... That team is tremendous. Best defense in the country. Tall, athletic quick guards,that close on shots and block or disrupt them. Ditto on wings. Plus a player of the year, do it all big man. Some teams have athletes who are not great basketball players. They have both. Poor Braden was just over matched, the large guys guarding him were quicker then him. Loyer tried his best with some success, but was held in check in the second half. Heide and Colvin shortcomings were exposed by a great defense. But, lets see how they do against good, but mortal teams before we throw them all under the bus.

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Seems like short comings were exposed against less than the best team in the country ala penn st and texas am

TwinDegrees2 said:

Where do you come up with these non-truths?

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White women benefitting from affirmative action more than anyone is real. Has been for decades. So how do you feel about that now?

tjreese said:

It would help if the athletes scored some

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Who?

Agree with about every thing said, but... That team is tremendous. Best defense in the country. Tall, athletic quick guards,that close on shots and block or disrupt them. Ditto on wings. Plus a player of the year, do it all big man. Some teams have athletes who are not great basketball players. They have both. Poor Braden was just over matched, the large guys guarding him were quicker then him. Loyer tried his best with some success, but was held in check in the second half. Heide and Colvin shortcomings were exposed by a great defense. But, lets see how they do against good, but mortal teams before we throw them all under the bus.

qazplm said:

So we lose games like this by low double digits then

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Probably, unless the execution would improve accordingly.....

Auburn, Marquette, and Texas A & M are likely tournament teams, and I expect a couple of high seeds among them too.

I'd like to see Purdue play some solid games on the road - they have look rattled at times since the Penn State game. And, they are struggling on both ends right now.

qazplm said:

Catchings would have helped this team but he was a basket case that I just don't think would have been happy here and his play would have showed it. I don't think he wanted to be here.

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I don’t know if he would have come around or not, but he was loaded physically

sku said:

Purdue and Indiana in football and basketball at one time or another have had
"easy" schedules which benefitted them. The fan base enjoyed the year and being in the CFP after the Tom Allen years. I would have been fine with going to a major bowl game. Anything would have been a plus for Indiana football.

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Lol all IU fans do when Purdue b-ball wins big ten : league is def down this year!

IU football did not belong and that’s OK.

proudopete said:

I would draw up plays for the other dudes and let the big 3 get theirs in the flow of the game. We rely way too much on Braden creating.

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Trey isn’t Zach and doesn’t create the same problems Zach did pick and roll to allow as many opportunities for Braden to find others. Purdue has to get more scoring out of Myles and Cam and not necessarily behind the arc

Doesn’t seem like the offense is designed for them to look to go get a shot/be aggressive.

Dryfly88 said:

1. What was their SOS before playing OSU? Serious question. I think playing OSU saved them from having a very high/low SOS. But I could be wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you about if they should have been in the playoffs. But if you don't think how they and SMU played today won't affect the committee going forward, I think you're pretty naive. Same scenario next year and Alabama, South Carolina or others will be in there.

As I said, I think IU schedules exactly like a team in their position should. Make it as easy as you can to make a bowl every year. Don't challenge yourself early, just get 3 for sure wins and then hope for the best in conference. They had a very nice year and if I were an IU fan I would be thrilled. I think if you can take off your crimson glasses you would agree they were outclassed and didn't belong in that game. But if not, that's ok no big deal.

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Purdue and Indiana in football and basketball at one time or another have had
"easy" schedules which benefitted them. The fan base enjoyed the year and being in the CFP after the Tom Allen years. I would have been fine with going to a major bowl game. Anything would have been a plus for Indiana football.

proudopete said:

We are way too reliant on Braden making something happen. I liked the end where Paint ran stuff for the two freshmen. We need to do more of that for Heide and Colvin.

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Hell, just run it for anyone to be able to go get their shot or a good, open shot. We don’t have a dominant scorer who can score every night (ideally TKR could, but he needs help).

pubill said:

He is no NB A talent

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Catchings will be in the nba. He will be drafted late first (best case) but more than likely second rd if he goes this year. He needs one more year and will go first round then.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

My guess is a definite yes but with a little more margin for error on defense with a potential shot-blocker and rebounder.

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So we lose games like this by low double digits then

tjreese said:

It would help if the athletes scored some

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TJ, what do you see in the offensive sets tho? I just see Colvin and Heide not even looking to shoot or attack. Not even dribble with purpose to a spot or break their man down. They either get the ball and look for the next step in the offensive set, which is usually to Loyer or Smith OR they stand in the corner and watch TKR back down his man or Loyer or smith try to create something that’s not there.

I assume paint is trying to run stuff through the big 3, but Colvin and Heide are absolutely non existent at times. And vs teams that apply a lot of pressure, those 2 could be an X factor to break down that type of defense.

BoilerNGold013 said:

Colvin and Heide should not start the next game until they show they deserve it. Cox and Burgess should take their spots. Harris should be off first off the bench because he actually showed he can still hit a 3 pt shot tonight and gave good effort.

To me the biggest disappoint of the season is Colvin's development. He has all the athleticism in the world and I can even respect that his basketball knowledge still needs work because of how awful his high school coaching was but the dude just doesn't seem to give good effort consistently. That is the most frustrating part. And on offense, feels like he hasn't hit a meaningful shot since Ole Miss.

Loved to see the effort at the end of the game because that felt like the only effort I saw all game.

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I mean I don't know why Colvin would be any bigger of a disappointment than Heide. Both are very similar players except Colvin is better defending smaller players and Heide is better with larger players.

qazplm said:

Things we won't have to worry about:

1. Smith leaving early to the NBA
2. TKR leaving early
3. Team getting a big head from being ranked

Having said that, this team, I think there's something going on. I don't have any predictions but feels like one or two players will transfer end of season. It feels like someone is going to be frustrated by end of year.

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So ?