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Purdue Grad in Texas · Monday at 9:27 PM

Boiler Buck said:
MSU loses 4 guys at least. 2 of those, Adkins & Richardson leaving leaves Major holes. The Fidler(sp) kid was good off bench, also gone. They have 2 frosh guards coming in, doubt either Richardson quality -- so they will need a couple great guards from the portal.

Richardson is a freshman, isn't he, Buck? Akins, Fidler, and Zapala graduate I think.

Izzo will probably pick up one or two if I were forced to wager, and they might have another departure. I expect Michigan State to be tough again next year. Maryland and Illinois - have no idea - a lot of turnover with both.

Bleedinggoldandblack · Monday at 9:22 PM

Still missing Lance Jones type player , perhaps Harris or Cox will grow into this or a version thereof....Braden needs someone else to drive the lane .

Boiler Buck · Monday at 9:20 PM

DwaynePurvis00 said:
When kohler is your leading scorer, you’re not gonna win too many games.

Their inability to shoot finally caught up to them. Playing a 15, 10 and the 6 helps to get to the E8. Wonder how much they’ll use the portal

MSU loses 4 guys at least. 2 of those, Adkins & Richardson leaving leaves Major holes. The Fidler(sp) kid was good off bench, also gone. They have 2 frosh guards coming in, doubt either Richardson quality -- so they will need a couple great guards from the portal.

Purdue Grad in Texas · Monday at 9:20 PM

tjreese said:
to those that don't know, other teams this year have scored in a similar fashion at the rim when Purdue defended that way already this year. Had it not been defended before, Houston wouldn't have done what a couple of teams did this year. It was a chance Purdue didn't need to take with 2 seconds on the clock. Purdue got cute when they played 2-3 zone with AJ in the middle except on out of bounds and North Florida hits a high school O/Bs play and beats Purdue. Lot of hype when the reality was it was a poor call on D. I understand it and works fine when the offensive player comes strong side as that allows Braden to take him and usually it was Fletcher that ended up on the trigger man, but you can't switch back on the triggerman if the cut is weakside...happened to Purdue earlier in the season...

Painter has forgotten more basketball than I'll ever know, but this is one of those times where Purdue being predictable really hits them with an experienced squad and coach. Sampson and Houston were ready for it.

Sometimes I'd love to see them change it up somewhere - so maybe even if Smith flashes to pick-up Cryer, they do something else different that they haven't shown.....Kaufman-Renn at a minimum had to deny the inbound.......agree though, with under three seconds....overly risky in a tie game to me, but hindsight is also 20/20 - lack of equal paint presence doesn't help either.....plus, Purdue had no time-outs as well.

northside100 · Monday at 9:15 PM

*4purdue* said:
I agree with this, but TKR was absolutely dominating in the post on offense. While CMP may let him pull the trigger a little more, history has shown, he likes the bigs to stay in their lane.

I get it and don't disagree. I'd argue that Trey is not Zach on a number of fronts: 1) the biggest reason that MP didn't have Zach take threes is that it took him out of rebounding position 2) Zach didn't need to shoot threes to play in the NBA (it doesn't hurt that he can), Trey absolutely does.

I don't know, but suspect that a significant reason why Trey would welcome the addition of Cluff is it allows him to get out of the post a bit more without hurting the team's chances at winning. MP plays to win, but he's also a pragmatist, which is why he let Biggie shoot a bunch of threes as a freshman.

purduedavie · Monday at 9:13 PM

Chi-Boiler said:
How bad were Holloman and Akins?

Akins played terrible until the last 5-10 minutes, he went off late after the game was decided. Auburn the much better team.

purduedavie · Monday at 9:12 PM

oldboiler52 said:
Sorry to see him go but he had no choice IMO. I was so impressed with him in Sweden. He just didn't fit here.

He was way too slow, it’s best if he moves to a lower level, he can prosper at a Valpo type of team.

purduedavie · Monday at 9:11 PM

asby said:
And with all that practice against Edey with no sort of improvement in his game

Yep, he had some offensive skill against lesser opponents, against fast/athletic bigs he was out of place. He would have been a 5 minute a game player next year, I’m sure he knew that.

Chi-Boiler · Monday at 9:11 PM

DwaynePurvis00 said:
Isn’t Pearl hated by Illinois because he made some call to a recruit thinking about Illinois and made false claims?

He was an assistant at Iowa and taped a conversation with Deon Thomas about Illinois offering him a car - a Chevy Blazer I think. Turned them in and they paid for it.

Chi-Boiler · Monday at 9:10 PM

DwaynePurvis00 said:
When kohler is your leading scorer, you’re not gonna win too many games.

Their inability to shoot finally caught up to them. Playing a 15, 10 and the 6 helps to get to the E8. Wonder how much they’ll use the portal

How bad were Holloman and Akins?

Purdue Grad in Texas · Monday at 9:06 PM

DrEss said:
Those were the old days. Good times, I remember.

Yes - make you feel Alive Again.

ChoiceBeef · Monday at 9:00 PM

At the right mid major - he is going to do awesome. Wish him all the besg

*Shockerrr* · Monday at 8:55 PM

Good kid but the writing was on the wall especially the way the season went for him. Wish him well!

Kocher101 · Monday at 8:55 PM

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proudopete · Monday at 8:53 PM

skdpurdue said:
So how does this work with Trey? Neither shoots from outside the paint too often. Cluff does seem like a very capable passer though. Is it going to be a platoon situation? Are we going to play two guys down low like IU? Curious to see how this unfolds if Cluff does come here. I trust Painter.

He could play with Heide at the four or with DJ for the most part as a backup to Trey. If he plays with Trey, they can play high low.

*4purdue* · Monday at 8:48 PM

northside100 said:
Completely agree with this. There were reports that Trey put a lot of work into his three in the offseason and I believe he took three threes in the first game but then DJ got hurt and he became strictly and pnr and post scorer, shooting four threes the rest of the season.

I suspect that Trey would welcome the opportunity to show that he can hit some open threes.

I agree with this, but TKR was absolutely dominating in the post on offense. While CMP may let him pull the trigger a little more, history has shown, he likes the bigs to stay in their lane.

northside100 · Monday at 8:47 PM

DwaynePurvis00 said:
Apparently he had already visited Iowa state prior to this visit and ISU was unable to strike a deal

I know I balked at this at first, primarily because he's a scorer and I didn't know where the shots would come from, but assuming Trey is involved in the decision, I think this is huge on several levels: 1) elite rebounder 2) allows Trey to play more aggressive on defense with less fear of foul trouble 3) provides a different look from DJ on defense, one that is more likely to be able to switch five ways 4) provides another option on offense without giving up size.

northside100 · Monday at 8:43 PM

SaratogaBoiler1 said:
TKR needs to improve his range as well - Guy for IU - flexor - didn’t do it - but if he does we will be tough

Completely agree with this. There were reports that Trey put a lot of work into his three in the offseason and I believe he took three threes in the first game but then DJ got hurt and he became strictly and pnr and post scorer, shooting four threes the rest of the season.

I suspect that Trey would welcome the opportunity to show that he can hit some open threes.

tjreese · Monday at 8:42 PM

Pryght said:
LOL....

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to those that don't know, other teams this year have scored in a similar fashion at the rim when Purdue defended that way already this year. Had it not been defended before, Houston wouldn't have done what a couple of teams did this year. It was a chance Purdue didn't need to take with 2 seconds on the clock. Purdue got cute when they played 2-3 zone with AJ in the middle except on out of bounds and North Florida hits a high school O/Bs play and beats Purdue. Lot of hype when the reality was it was a poor call on D. I understand it and works fine when the offensive player comes strong side as that allows Braden to take him and usually it was Fletcher that ended up on the trigger man, but you can't switch back on the triggerman if the cut is weakside...happened to Purdue earlier in the season...

tkdpurdue · Monday at 8:42 PM

msfboiler3 said:
Ill be surprised if painter doesnt go after koch from iowa unless hes already off the table. I agree on another ball handler as well. Probably be an older kid from a mid major whos had decent success that wont cost much.

Why do You have so little confidence in Cox and Harris. They have shown they can handle the ball. And they will when the time is right.

SaratogaBoiler1 · Monday at 8:40 PM

ChoiceBeef said:
Sorry if posted but Iowa State scored a F/C from Virginia so thinking this is ours to lose.

Yep I think he’s ours if we want him

SaratogaBoiler1 · Monday at 8:39 PM

*4purdue* said:
Thanks…. Definitely needs some time with Brantley, but I could see him helping us next year. If Brantley can round off the edges, and he’s going against TKR every day, he will improve. Looks like he has a little more range than TKR also.

TKR needs to improve his range as well - Guy for IU - flexor - didn’t do it - but if he does we will be tough

DrEss · Monday at 8:39 PM

boilermaker75 said:
25 or 6 to 4

Those were the old days. Good times, I remember.

ChoiceBeef · Monday at 8:39 PM

Sorry if posted but Iowa State scored a F/C from Virginia so thinking this is ours to lose.

*4purdue* · Monday at 8:32 PM

Old Gold n Black said:
Here's something I haven't seen posted yet. Against Alabama earlier this year he went for 21 pts and 15 rbs.

He's number 45 in the vid.

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Thanks…. Definitely needs some time with Brantley, but I could see him helping us next year. If Brantley can round off the edges, and he’s going against TKR every day, he will improve. Looks like he has a little more range than TKR also.

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