z_one said:

And just what did you offer? I did my part to help right the ship. That was part of my complaint all along. Bitching doesn't solve the problem. And anyone that thinks that Purdue wasn't put in a tough spot with Brohm leaving is totally clueless. Initially I was against the Walters hiring and I registered my thoughts privately through emails and phone calls. However, once the decision was made I decided to support my Alma Mater in the best ways that I could. It didn't work out. I acknowledged that and took my lumps for supporting Purdue to internet trolls that offer nothing but criticism. Easy to do when you hide behind a computer screen and howl at the moon.

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BoilerDaddy said:

Pack is a good example. Painter would have loved to have had him, but Pack made a financially driven decision to go to Miami. The big difference now is that the players are asking for much more money. There are a lot of centers that Purdue could go after that would be an apparent upgrade, but at what cost and does it come out of the compensation that Smith, Loyer, and TKR have earned? Any of those three could leave and demand 7 figures next season. I want to make sure that Purdue nips that possibility in the bud by rewarding them appropriately.

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BoilerAndy said:

Your words, which I agreed with. Then you changed them to 2 different things. Arguing with yourself. Carry on.

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Boiler Buck said:

Is he a Colin Hartman type or Robbie Hummel??
Odds on the former as Hummel was so so special.

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seminolesboilers said:

Is Pack on the Hurricane team anymore? At the beginning of this season...he was starting. Lately...I do not see his name even in the boxscore for a team that is terrible. Did he quit the team?

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qazplm said:

Sure. New coaches can bring success in basketball a lot easier than in football. IU is doing something wrong in their basketball coaching search though because it's been awhile since they've gotten a good one.

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BBG said:

So much talent.. and nothing between the ears... too bad. He clearly thinks he has too much sauce

We dodged one there...

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qazplm said:

Two different things

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qazplm said:

So, he will take portal players. He took two in two years. He also talks about 13 scholarship players which isn't the case anymore. He is going to have two more slots to fill.

But that article clearly establishes:

1. He doesn't view the portal as off limits. He just doesn't want to make it his prime source which no one here is suggesting he do.
2. He'll take portal players if they will help the team. Whether or not that's true will depend on the team and the portal players available, which no one here is disputing.
3. Nothing about "I won't recruit over anyone."
4. He doesn't say, my team is so good I won't possibly take one in the near future.

Bunch of strawmen being created by folks on here because THEY don't like the portal. So they ascribe stuff to Painter like he will never get someone out of the portal to play over a loyal player when he literally did it the last two seasons. Or that he thinks the team is so stacked that no portal player could possibly help. Which he also hasn't said.

Nothing in there says he won't use the portal next season. Nothing in there says he thinks he has a team that can't possibly be improved. Nothing in there says what happens if one or two players leave for next season.

No one here has advocated for him to make the portal his primary method. Or even a big method. Everyone has said one MAYBE two additions would be helpful and everyone has caveated that on fit and culture.


The folks left arguing, and some being aholes about it, are the ones most opposed to the Idea of a portal to begin with.

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typeviic said:

Except were not dealing with logical/rational people. Nutty-Netty, Ben Gvir, Smotrich, etc in that war-party that controls Israel, are all about killing because they take all of those silly stories and nonsense of the Old Testament seriously. Just like their role model Zealots and Sicari from the Old Testament did. Their god tells them to kill and "save alive nothing that breathes".

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are to possess and drives out the many nations larger and stronger than you, and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. Do not save alive anything that breathes…Do not intermarry with them…Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons…Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and burn their idols in the fire, for you are a people holy to the Lord your God who has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession…’–Book of Deuteronomy

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SIBoiler2 said:

Other than dusty banners and a bunch of old windbags telling stories of the glory days, what makes Woodson a legend to the students? He left IU as a player 35 years ago.

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HarrysPostGame13 said:

Different programs too. One played in the national title last year and have been consistent in the big ten for some time while the other is about as low as you can get.

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BoilerDaddy said:

I felt the same way a couple years ago when Purdue went into the season with Braden Smith as the only true point guard on the roster, but it worked out ok. There are no guarantees with DJ and there is a chance that he’s a disappointment, but there’s also a very real possibility that he’s an impact player next season. He surprisingly showed quite a bit in those 26 minutes before he got hurt.

As far as Burgess, he’s really making the most of his minutes and Purdue is playing well as a team when he’s in the game. He’s got good efficiency numbers and his offensive rebounding has been the best on the team from a percentage perspective. I trust him and, as a sophomore, I expect him to be ready to take on a bigger role.

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qazplm said:

When I see people talking about Painter scheduling a tough OOC on the football forum I have to shake my head.

Two completely different situations when you have 30+ games and a 68 team tournament which makes SOS very important and where a couple of bad losses matter a lot less than when you have 12 games and can only lose 6 of them and where SOS doesn't determine where you play a bowl game or even whether or not you play in the playoffs.

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SIBoiler2 said:

Maybe, but I don't think he continued as a college coach.

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Chi-Boiler said:

Your son ran track in college too?????

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Bank Shot Podcast said:

We did have a pimp. I'm assuming DeAndre Thomas. Can't convince me otherwise. And a drug dealer. Not sure which that one was. Would have had another but he was busted while in high school and that ruined his career. Bud Mackey. Busted dealing cocaine in Kentucky.

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SIBoiler2 said:

Other than dusty banners and a bunch of old windbags telling stories of the glory days, what makes Woodson a legend to the students? He left IU as a player 35 years ago.

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boilerzz said:

I've read a lot of back and forth in this thread and it's funny to me that both sides are saying slight variations of the same thing and treating them like counterpoints.

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