proudopete said:

Yeah, I’m not sure Ethan Morton is a good example. He may have been loyal but he wasn’t a player who couldn’t be replaced easily. I’m talking more about the big 3. To find someone better is a stretch but if it was a possibility I doubt Painter even entertains it.

I think Colvin and Heide are two players that may end up being recruited over. It’s the players who aren’t developing that run the risk of being replaced. Some folks here seem to think we should go out and spend a million or two on replacing players such as Loyer or TKR and I’m sure that that won’t happen.

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qazplm said:

Sure he will. He does it every time he brings in a great recruit. If a frosh comes in and they are better than a loyal senior then guess what, that frosh is starting and that senior is coming off the bench.

Heck, Ethan Morton is a perfect example of that. Loyalty doesn't mean playing time. It means honesty and a fair chance to play. That's it

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New Pal Boiler said:

TLDR.

no problems with portal guys, but many won’t fit the culture here.

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proudopete said:

I don’t think many here disagree that perhaps Painter finds someone in the portal to help next season. What I do see however is that Painter won’t recruit over players he feels have been loyal to Purdue.

Bottom line is that I trust Painter to make that call and if history and his words tell us anything, then it’s unlikely we go grab a high dollar transfer to displace players we already have. In other words, it would have to be a perfect match and there must be an obvious hole.

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TC4THREE said:

I think he just got extended less than a month ago. I have heard rumors of the family not loving the South Bend area though.

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bonefish1 said:

I would say that if Painter thinks he has a FF team for next year with the current roster, he's probably being a little overly optimistic. He, the fans, and talking heads know where the gaps are on this roster and where the portal could be used to immediately fill those gaps.

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Gemini95 said:

The inability of people on this forum to let shit go is unparalleled.

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bonefish1 said:

There's not much bigger than ND if you're winning.

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tjreese said:

"Ban" is a hard thing to want, but I know and agree with the premise. I mean UNLESS you are so wide open and have to take a three ball...get in the flow. Last night we saw Cam drive once to the rim and the game before we saw Myles get into the lane. Both need to add that by being more observant of when it is there, as well as playing D, setting screens, seeing the court and making good passes as well as rebounding...so many things other than a 3 ball.

BTW, IMO we are seeing more teams scoring in the lane other than Purdue. Teams and players are getting better at the mid range game since teams are really 1) running players off the line 2) not helping off of three ball shooters as much 3) not being able to get all the way to the rim...and now have open shots in the lane...

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bonefish1 said:

That's an on-point analysis. BNI definitely has designated himself the voice of black America on this board, even though most of what he regurgitates from urban radio is just race baiting democrat talking points.
Bob on the other hand, has a deep rooted, systemic case of TDS. He's crossed the line and it's going to be a tough 4 years for him.

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pboiler18 said:

You and others complained about the OL being bad but didn’t want to look at the real causes and just wanted to be lazy and blame Brohm.

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IUHDog said:

I actually think that Allen's style and Franklin's style probably clashed. Dabo and Allen are "Godlier" in their approach to coaching.

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On the eve of former President Donald Trump's return to power, a new report is turning the story of the 2021 Capitol incursion on its head.

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In addition, Miller told the Jan. 6 committee that he was influenced by a commentary piece published by The Washington Post on Jan. 3, 2021, signed by all 10 living former defense secretaries, calling on Miller by name to "refrain from any political actions that undermine the results of the election or hinder the success of the new team."

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PaBoiler78 said:

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BoilerAndy said:

I appreciate the Dischinger mention. He and GRob were probably the all-time best Purdue forwards. In the pros 7-0 Wilt Chamberlain once said that 6-7 Dischinger was the toughest player he ever faced.

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

You continue to not understand that when players score, it doesn't mean that a play was drawn up for them. CJ, Furst and Harris scored due to the flow of the offense or in transition. It was not any specific play ran for them. You not understanding that, is what makes me not so sure you understand what's actually going on.

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

Ok, even though you have shown a clear disliking for Colvin (one can just go through your posts), let's just say you don't. But your bias shows when:

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

1. You complain he is not shooting it well and then when he does, you say "well...how many REBOUNDS did he have?"

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2. You say he "mostly played in clean up time", the last shot he made was at the 6.5 min mark and his last shot he took was at the 2.5 min mark. So, that would mean he scored 14 points in 15 mins, but you decide to throw in shade and say it was all in "mop up duty" when, in fact, it was not mop up duty.

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3. Last year, and even this year, you were pounding your chest on how he brings nothing to the table. However, you don't bring that same energy about GiCarri, who is playing similar minutes and putting up very similar numbers with much worse shooting numbers.

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4. I'm sure you'll say "but Myles is a sophomore". Ok let's compare stats frosh to frosh. Myles put up similar numbers on also better shooting numbers than GiCarri has in his freshman campaingn, while GiCarri has played double the minutes that Myles did as a frosh.

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

5. You don't complainin when Furst had low rebounding numbers or Heide? Or even Fletcher? (You see how nitpicky that is to try and do that when all 3 played well?)

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

And to be clear, I think GiCarri is going to be very good and is starting to hit his stride, same with Furst. Hopefully, Heide continues to provide solid minutes, as well.

Not saying this is you, but one can be a coach, but it doesn't mean they're a good one. The most dangerous ones are the ones who think they are good, when they are in fact, not at all. And IF you have been coaching as long as you say you have, you would know that kids having the "it" factor isn't just during a game. It's their work ethic and what they do outside of the game...and you have no idea what Myles or any of these kids are doing.

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

And yes, Myles has not hit his potential of what I thought, but he has vastly improved his defense (which you still discredit, not sure why) and his offense needs to be a bit more consistent. But, if you have played organized basketball, it's a bit tough to get it going when you don't have the ball in your hands every other possession. And when you only get 1-4 shots a game, it's also tough to get a rhythm.

He also turns 20 this August. He has time to improve and grow his body still. And what's even crazier is that GiCarri turns 20 the same day as Myles and CJ is already 20.

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DwaynePurvis00 said:

So, hopefully you now understand THIS is why I discredit your biased comments since the same energy/comments aren't made for other players that are providing similar stats and results. That's all.

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tjreese said:

It is so confusing. Bob said many times in the past he was a republican. I believe and could be wrong in that he separated from a conservative and stated only republican. I realize that statement is at odds with his posts, but that is what he said. BNI, God Bless him...he normally doesn't attack posters as much as the others. He mostly is here to advocate for Blacks in how he has been informed by urban radio and with so many whites posting he may see it as trying to teach people about urban America as a counterbalance to those informed elsewhere outside ghetto areas. Both are passionate with Bob afflicted by TDS and BNI seeing so much racism everywhere.

I can appreciate passion and find both able to provide understanding from areas I wouldn't solicit that show that in the tails of the distribution there lies people of many stripes,,,

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qazplm said:

Every team has a culture. And every fan of team thinks their culture is superior and unique to most other schools.

Purdue isn't a paragon of which only a handful of kids can play. It's also not a cesspool like some schools are for sure.

Each team needs to find players who will accept roles and fit team chemistry. That's not unique to Purdue. I'm sure Painter would do his best to find those players. I'm also sure those players are as likely to exist in the portal as they are out of high school.

I'm also sure that Painter isn't perfect in figuring that out. Catchings didn't come from the portal and yet turned out he wasn't a culture fit. It happens. No blame to Painter because again it's impossible to be perfect in assessing that.

I just think folks here have hyper moralized the portal as being filled with potential cancers because some don't like the very concept of the portal.

It's simply another source of talent. The same risks and benefits exist there as in high school recruiting. If a high school recruit appeared in the radar for next season that had a lot of talent people wouldn't be asking whose minutes they might take and maybe we shouldn't take them because we are "loaded."

Jones last season could have gone other places and he didn't come here guaranteed a starting role. He fit in just fine and yeah Heide or Colvin didn't start likely because of it. And turned out ok. If someone in the portal can make this team better and someone here plays less minutes the problem is what exactly?

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qazplm said:

Every team has a culture. And every fan of team thinks their culture is superior and unique to most other schools.

Purdue isn't a paragon of which only a handful of kids can play. It's also not a cesspool like some schools are for sure.

Each team needs to find players who will accept roles and fit team chemistry. That's not unique to Purdue. I'm sure Painter would do his best to find those players. I'm also sure those players are as likely to exist in the portal as they are out of high school.

I'm also sure that Painter isn't perfect in figuring that out. Catchings didn't come from the portal and yet turned out he wasn't a culture fit. It happens. No blame to Painter because again it's impossible to be perfect in assessing that.

I just think folks here have hyper moralized the portal as being filled with potential cancers because some don't like the very concept of the portal.

It's simply another source of talent. The same risks and benefits exist there as in high school recruiting. If a high school recruit appeared in the radar for next season that had a lot of talent people wouldn't be asking whose minutes they might take and maybe we shouldn't take them because we are "loaded."

Jones last season could have gone other places and he didn't come here guaranteed a starting role. He fit in just fine and yeah Heide or Colvin didn't start likely because of it. And turned out ok. If someone in the portal can make this team better and someone here plays less minutes the problem is what exactly?

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HUD628 said:

Breedlove too

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ChoiceBeef said:

One of the plays I like was when he and Braden ran a 2 man game the other day that got CJ and open look. I think as he gets more comfortable and is feeling his shot, that will become a deadly combo. The more he and Braden play together, the more they will learn to create for each other.

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