BoilerDaddy said:

Speaking of Smith, he played all 80 minutes in the two games out west and never really looked tired. In addition to everything else he brings to the table, he must have Iron Man like conditioning to be able to pull that off.

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Someone else mentioned how many minutes Braden has played this year and expressed concern. I mentioned that Matt doesn't see it as an issue, but Braden looked like it caught up with him last night. Maybe that was just an off game for Braden that didn't relate to fatigue from playing a ton of minutes and coming off of the West Coast road trip, but I'd be surprised if that were the case.

Boiler Buck said:

Time to review D again.
Play like that on D again, and another L.
45 pt half. LOL, I can hear CMP now, melting down the gym.

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Perhaps, Buck - but I think the system works.....defense was pretty good in first half. I'll just throw this out there for further "discussion" (that usually means argument, haha)......don't forget about mental fatigue - leads to breakdowns, poor reactions, poor shot selection, misses, etc. Every team has to deal with it, and we've seen some of these players in the past seasons have to deal with it.

Still a good team with potential to be very good - gotta figure out the consistent plan to close out opponents. On the bright side, I'm liking little things I see of Gicarri Harris.....no surprise.....still a frosh, but he's not going to get bullied and neither is Cox, though they still have a ways to go.

I also surmise this puts a little bit of a bur under Braden Smith......let's see how he responds.

Boiler Buck said:

Sure. But a return to a little D might help too.

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You're really focused on the D

Boiler Buck said:

Time to review D again.
Play like that on D again, and another L.
45 pt half. LOL, I can hear CMP now, melting down the gym.

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It was his fault. Mr. I know basketball can yell at himself. Allowed Parrish highest point total of his 5 year career. News flash, when we get up by 16, they are just gonna shoot 3s!!! I know basketball! lol

Our teams don’t even have the worst situation. How much sense does it make to send Maryland’s tennis team (random example of a non-revenue generating sport) on 6-hour flights to Washington? If being a student-athlete was inconvenient before, the huge geographical gap of our current conference must be detrimental to classroom continuity.

Smith has to find his shot - without it we are severely compromised

Gman544 said:

Two superior athletic teams coming up. They struggle getting good shots at times with these type of teams.

They need to hit some threes early.

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Sure. But a return to a little D might help too.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

Oh there's plenty in the film session for Painter, and you don't even need to take a hard look at it for instruction. You'd rather that not come after a loss (especially at home), but it's all about how you deal with adversity now.....win as a team, lose as a team - players and coaches alike.

We'll see what happens Friday because that's another set of challenges in that match-up.

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Time to review D again.
Play like that on D again, and another L.
45 pt half. LOL, I can hear CMP now, melting down the gym.

Boilermaker03 said:

I was trying to keep the blow soft so we might get some participation from the Fauci defenders here.

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Those exist?

Two superior athletic teams coming up. They struggle getting good shots at times with these type of teams.

They need to hit some threes early.

jdbrees922 said:

Ever watch Loyer’s D . Don’t talk about not taking advantage of playing time . When they are in all we do is high ball screen and Smith dump it to Renn. Ever see that double screen we used to run for Dakota ?

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Please don’t compare to what Loyer does overall for the team. They were outplayed by Purdue’s Freshman guards. Both scored and helped give Smith a break with their ball handling. Colvin and Heide don’t have the ball handling skill to help Smith. They need to show up when they play. They mostly do on D, but need to grab more boards and to hit some shots like Harris and Cox did.

DrEss said:

Agree, as we have seen this Purdue game every once in a while in past seasons, before any WC trip. The Boilers are riding high coming into a game, get way up in the first half, then the opponent gets going and Purdue goes cold. Seems this stinker shows up once a year, every season. Hopefully this will spark the team to tighten things up through the rest of the season.

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The issue with the travel argument is not getting anything from Colvin or Heide is not an irregular occurrence.

DwaynePurvis00 said:

Off breakdowns from the defense/their defense being more concerned with smith shooting and him kicking it over to a wide open Harris (who wasn’t shooting it very well from 3 all year).

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Point is there were opportunities and he took advantage. Heide and Colvin often do not.

seminolesboilers said:

Smith still the best pg in the big 10, let alone the nation? Shave off the beard time…not a good look!

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Yeah Amish look doesn't work plus he played horrible. Must be the beard. Embarrassing

Yes, another night of little to no contributions from Colvin and Heide, seems that is going to be what we get more often than not. Don't see this changing anytime soon. But we lost this game because Braden was terrible and we didn't shoot the three.

bonefish1 said:

Sorry, I don' t buy into the travel argument. We were up by 13 at halftime and then after losing the lead, stretched it out to 6 again late in the 2nd. 59-53.
OSU just got hot from 3. Defense wasn't bad, but these guys just hit shots when they needed to. I do think Smith was pressing late in the 2nd, maybe shot hunting a little too much.

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Agree, as we have seen this Purdue game every once in a while in past seasons, before any WC trip. The Boilers are riding high coming into a game, get way up in the first half, then the opponent gets going and Purdue goes cold. Seems this stinker shows up once a year, every season. Hopefully this will spark the team to tighten things up through the rest of the season.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

Oh there's plenty in the film session for Painter, and you don't even need to take a hard look at it for instruction. You'd rather that not come after a loss (especially at home), but it's all about how you deal with adversity now.....win as a team, lose as a team - players and coaches alike.

We'll see what happens Friday because that's another set of challenges in that match-up.

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if we make 5 or 6 bunnies, game would have been a W

DwaynePurvis00 said:

We need to get our shooting back from 3 and incorporate into the offense. Harris is showing he should be sixth man off the bench for the backcourt (yep I said it finally @TwinDegrees2 ). He’s looking confident with his shot, puts pressure on the defense by driving to the hoop, and playing defense well. Colvin and Heide still should get their mins but we need them to produce 8-12 ppg and 4-8 rebounds per game (combined) for us to be really dangerous.

Ohio state woke us back up last year and hope this does the same. The 3 Pete will be tougher now, but still not impossible. If the boys can put together another 7 game win streak, theyll be in good shape.

Eager to see how they bounce back against a really good Michigan team after their first loss in 2025.

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need more 3's. didn't make many last night and only made 5 in the 2 west coast games. The team has been getting by beating mostly the bottom feeders by only playing one good half and it caught up to them last night along w/ playing an athletic team ( achilles heel for us ). We also gave up 2 big runs, usually you have to survive one big run.

Sorry, I don' t buy into the travel argument. We were up by 13 at halftime and then after losing the lead, stretched it out to 6 again late in the 2nd. 59-53.
OSU just got hot from 3. Defense wasn't bad, but these guys just hit shots when they needed to. I do think Smith was pressing late in the 2nd, maybe shot hunting a little too much.

Boiler Buck said:

Just so the B10 makes more $. That is the important thing, right?

The travel stress, while being a student athlete is obviously effecting these kids at all schools.

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😂 “student athlete” is no more, unfortunately, with NIL.

PaBoiler78 said:

I think they would do better if we ran a more up tempo O, now w/ a mostly slowed downed half court O that uses up alot of clock the amount of possessions are limited so some of the guys just don't get enough opportunities to shine

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I agree. I think if you're going to play those 2 together, you put them on the floor with Smith, Cox and probably Furst and try to speed up the pass, get into transition, get points that way until you bring TKR and Fletch back in to run half court.

PaBoiler78 said:

you forgot West

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I swore I had him in there! Must have deleted it but yes put him in the sophomore group

qazplm said:

How did Harris score 8 pts then?

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Off breakdowns from the defense/their defense being more concerned with smith shooting and him kicking it over to a wide open Harris (who wasn’t shooting it very well from 3 all year).