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BoilerNGold013 · Saturday at 8:04 PM

Gman544 said:
Agree with about every thing said, but... That team is tremendous. Best defense in the country. Tall, athletic quick guards,that close on shots and block or disrupt them. Ditto on wings. Plus a player of the year, do it all big man. Some teams have athletes who are not great basketball players. They have both. Poor Braden was just over matched, the large guys guarding him were quicker then him. Loyer tried his best with some success, but was held in check in the second half. Heide and Colvin shortcomings were exposed by a great defense. But, lets see how they do against good, but mortal teams before we throw them all under the bus.

Seems like short comings were exposed against less than the best team in the country ala penn st and texas am

BNIBoiler · Saturday at 8:02 PM

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Gman544 · Saturday at 8:01 PM

tjreese said:
It would help if the athletes scored some

Who?

Gman544 · Saturday at 7:57 PM

Agree with about every thing said, but... That team is tremendous. Best defense in the country. Tall, athletic quick guards,that close on shots and block or disrupt them. Ditto on wings. Plus a player of the year, do it all big man. Some teams have athletes who are not great basketball players. They have both. Poor Braden was just over matched, the large guys guarding him were quicker then him. Loyer tried his best with some success, but was held in check in the second half. Heide and Colvin shortcomings were exposed by a great defense. But, lets see how they do against good, but mortal teams before we throw them all under the bus.

Purdue Grad in Texas · Saturday at 7:51 PM

qazplm said:
So we lose games like this by low double digits then

Probably, unless the execution would improve accordingly.....

Auburn, Marquette, and Texas A & M are likely tournament teams, and I expect a couple of high seeds among them too.

I'd like to see Purdue play some solid games on the road - they have look rattled at times since the Penn State game. And, they are struggling on both ends right now.

tjreese · Saturday at 7:46 PM

qazplm said:
Catchings would have helped this team but he was a basket case that I just don't think would have been happy here and his play would have showed it. I don't think he wanted to be here.

I don’t know if he would have come around or not, but he was loaded physically

DwaynePurvis00 · Saturday at 7:38 PM

sku said:
Purdue and Indiana in football and basketball at one time or another have had
"easy" schedules which benefitted them. The fan base enjoyed the year and being in the CFP after the Tom Allen years. I would have been fine with going to a major bowl game. Anything would have been a plus for Indiana football.

Lol all IU fans do when Purdue b-ball wins big ten : league is def down this year!

IU football did not belong and that’s OK.

tjreese · Saturday at 7:38 PM

proudopete said:
I would draw up plays for the other dudes and let the big 3 get theirs in the flow of the game. We rely way too much on Braden creating.

Trey isn’t Zach and doesn’t create the same problems Zach did pick and roll to allow as many opportunities for Braden to find others. Purdue has to get more scoring out of Myles and Cam and not necessarily behind the arc

DwaynePurvis00 · Saturday at 7:37 PM

Doesn’t seem like the offense is designed for them to look to go get a shot/be aggressive.

sku · Saturday at 7:37 PM

Dryfly88 said:
1. What was their SOS before playing OSU? Serious question. I think playing OSU saved them from having a very high/low SOS. But I could be wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you about if they should have been in the playoffs. But if you don't think how they and SMU played today won't affect the committee going forward, I think you're pretty naive. Same scenario next year and Alabama, South Carolina or others will be in there.

As I said, I think IU schedules exactly like a team in their position should. Make it as easy as you can to make a bowl every year. Don't challenge yourself early, just get 3 for sure wins and then hope for the best in conference. They had a very nice year and if I were an IU fan I would be thrilled. I think if you can take off your crimson glasses you would agree they were outclassed and didn't belong in that game. But if not, that's ok no big deal.

Purdue and Indiana in football and basketball at one time or another have had
"easy" schedules which benefitted them. The fan base enjoyed the year and being in the CFP after the Tom Allen years. I would have been fine with going to a major bowl game. Anything would have been a plus for Indiana football.

DwaynePurvis00 · Saturday at 7:35 PM

proudopete said:
We are way too reliant on Braden making something happen. I liked the end where Paint ran stuff for the two freshmen. We need to do more of that for Heide and Colvin.

Hell, just run it for anyone to be able to go get their shot or a good, open shot. We don’t have a dominant scorer who can score every night (ideally TKR could, but he needs help).

DwaynePurvis00 · Saturday at 7:34 PM

pubill said:
He is no NB A talent

Catchings will be in the nba. He will be drafted late first (best case) but more than likely second rd if he goes this year. He needs one more year and will go first round then.

qazplm · Saturday at 7:34 PM

Purdue Grad in Texas said:
My guess is a definite yes but with a little more margin for error on defense with a potential shot-blocker and rebounder.

So we lose games like this by low double digits then

DwaynePurvis00 · Saturday at 7:33 PM

tjreese said:
It would help if the athletes scored some

TJ, what do you see in the offensive sets tho? I just see Colvin and Heide not even looking to shoot or attack. Not even dribble with purpose to a spot or break their man down. They either get the ball and look for the next step in the offensive set, which is usually to Loyer or Smith OR they stand in the corner and watch TKR back down his man or Loyer or smith try to create something that’s not there.

I assume paint is trying to run stuff through the big 3, but Colvin and Heide are absolutely non existent at times. And vs teams that apply a lot of pressure, those 2 could be an X factor to break down that type of defense.

qazplm · Saturday at 7:33 PM

BoilerNGold013 said:
Colvin and Heide should not start the next game until they show they deserve it. Cox and Burgess should take their spots. Harris should be off first off the bench because he actually showed he can still hit a 3 pt shot tonight and gave good effort.

To me the biggest disappoint of the season is Colvin's development. He has all the athleticism in the world and I can even respect that his basketball knowledge still needs work because of how awful his high school coaching was but the dude just doesn't seem to give good effort consistently. That is the most frustrating part. And on offense, feels like he hasn't hit a meaningful shot since Ole Miss.

Loved to see the effort at the end of the game because that felt like the only effort I saw all game.

I mean I don't know why Colvin would be any bigger of a disappointment than Heide. Both are very similar players except Colvin is better defending smaller players and Heide is better with larger players.

pubill · Saturday at 7:30 PM

qazplm said:
Things we won't have to worry about:

1. Smith leaving early to the NBA
2. TKR leaving early
3. Team getting a big head from being ranked

Having said that, this team, I think there's something going on. I don't have any predictions but feels like one or two players will transfer end of season. It feels like someone is going to be frustrated by end of year.

So ?

Purdue Grad in Texas · Saturday at 7:29 PM

qazplm said:
I like Jacobsen. But he wasn't Edey and obviously it's unfair to expect that of him.

We'd have fewer issues obviously so better with him than without but I wonder if we'd still struggle against this athletic teams.

My guess is a definite yes but with a little more margin for error on defense with a potential shot-blocker and rebounder.

pubill · Saturday at 7:27 PM

A. Ness said:
Cox seems better. Don't get why Berg and Harris were the starters and an NBA talent was run off.

He is no NB A talent

Purdue58 · Saturday at 7:26 PM

HUD628 said:
I mean come on. Y’all wanna try to help us out a little bit? Good lord.

This offense is not working for Purdue, it was ok when we had Eddy in the middle and TKR is no Eddy.
If it's not working change somethings around, we have to get everyone involved in the offence.
Our 2 most athletic players stand on the side waiting to get the ball and they took 5 shots between them.
We have a few games coming up we should win and are at home so at least we can look forward to that.

tjreese · Saturday at 7:25 PM

TopSecretBoiler said:
How can we never get Colvin or Heide going to the rim? Every other team manages it. We have the 2 best leapers on the court and we dont get them anything downhill. Reduced to jumpshooting. Mind boggling. Of course they rape us on the perimeter, we never punish it!

And Purdue never back cuts or has many back screens. It is as though Zach is back there and so out behind the arc allowing D to be overly aggressive

proudopete · Saturday at 7:22 PM

We are way too reliant on Braden making something happen. I liked the end where Paint ran stuff for the two freshmen. We need to do more of that for Heide and Colvin.

seminolesboilers · Saturday at 7:21 PM

Loyer is who he is against quick, athletic guards…not very good. Cox is a better option at shooting guard. 30 minutes of ZERO in the National Championship game last season…enuf said.

tjreese · Saturday at 7:20 PM

qazplm said:
There's nice pieces to this team, truly, but those who think we can stand pat and just have our sophs blow up next year aren't watching the same games I am.

This team needs more athleticism in the worst way. We look slow against these types of teams.

Purdue was much slower than Auburn and was sped up. I hope Purdue gets to play them again. 😁

purdave · Saturday at 7:19 PM

HUD628 said:
I mean come on. Y’all wanna try to help us out a little bit? Good lord.

Heide just wants to stay on the perimeter and shoot 3's. No interest in playing aggressive by attacking the hoop.

PaBoiler78 · Saturday at 7:18 PM

HUD628 said:
I agree, just saying if you must transfer, go where you’re actually going to play.

my point is that he has a great path for PT here esp if Klare leaves

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