Paid anarchists. Intent on destroying American society as it's known and my guess paid for by Soros or other organizations.
OT: George Floyd
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Nah, don’t listen to governors and just shame Fox and its viewers. If you have any questions, ask mEdIa MaTtErS and their mindless followers.
This is what y’all like about this man? Ginning up his base for a potentially violent confrontation in front of the White House? This is the president, ladies and gentlemen, and plenty of people on here just sprouted little tents in their pants that he said this.
lol what an insincere bag of lies. US cops are violent across the board. making this a race issue will guarantee it never is addressed.
Apologies, Cainer. I should have listened to you when you told me to shut my mouth. Hope you’re doing well!
I don't think that pre meditated murder is the only expression of racism, although it could be. Racism is treating another race as subordinate to your own. So racism could have driven the cop to use excessive force with Mr. Floyd. It could have also driven the cop to not respond to his cries for help when he couldn't breathe. Both of those actions ultimately led to the death of George Floyd, as the result of racist behavior, but also wasn't the result of pre meditated murder.
What the cop did was wrong...that is clear and everyone agrees that it was wrong. I am not in the camp that believes that this cops behavior is representative of the 800k cops in America, or the 198Mn white people in this country.
Sure, that is possible. It’s just not what you asked. It could be a lone bad apple acting based on race. But my opinion is that these officers saw Floyd as something less than human because he was a black man. The complete disregard for human life doesn’t just happen without cause.
“Lies”? Really? You disagree that it is rooted in racism, but there isn’t a “lie” in there.
I know I’m hitting around the target with the responses I’m getting from the usual crowd. Not much you guys can say because deep down in the parts of you that are reasonable and decent, you know that cop was kneeling on the neck of something he thought wasn’t a human being.
You threatened to make trouble for me in my private life. You totally crossed the line. Oh well. I’m over it.
You certainly are sensitive for someone who insults people so much. I think you are a very insecure person. Thanks for the feedback!
Don't agree with all of Tuckers political views, but he is one of the smarter opinion journalists out there. He is often ahead of the story. This is yet another example of that.
CNN is finally catching up to Tucker's reporting on this story today. Hopefully the poster that posted Tucker's quote is getting educated today as well.
I really hope you were drunk last night versus just having nothing better to do than make machine-gun posts defending the indefensible regarding the Fox News entertainment channel. Otherwise it just looks like you've bought their package hook, line, and sinker, which only calls for derision.
Tucker certainly isn’t perfect by any stretch but I appreciate his different viewpoints and the questions he asks. He stays curious and I appreciate that as a consumer of his show.
Hope so. mEdIa MaTtErS is such a joke of an organization run by a proven bigot. They exist to destroy conservative voices. Truly disgusting.
Bought their package? Was part of that package being on the right side of a three year long tale that every other Democrat Party media conglomerate fell for? Fox is much more correct than any of the others, FYI. There’s also a reason they destroy the fake news folks on a nightly basis in ratings.
It’s exactly what I asked. Systematic racism implies the predominant majority of a society or people group is racist. That is why I asked my initial question. How can society as a whole largely agree that this act was despicable while still having racist roots? Doesn’t add up.
I’m not disagreeing that this incident, and others like it, were racially charged. I am disagreeing that this officer and this incident is representative of the police force and White America as a whole.
I explained that. A despicable act doesn't have to be racist. A racist act is always despicable. A segment of our population can agree this was atrocious without thinking it was rooted in racism.
i disagree with your whole bs cognitive dissonance premise. if you believe your own bs then go riot. if you believe everyone is racist go burn it to the ground. if this man was killed only for his race then tell it on the mountain. if you don't you're a coward...or deep down you know your message board activism is a lie.
So you just want to ruin my reputation and get me fired? Please clarify....
Maybe you should tell us your place of business. What do you do? I’m curious? Please share.
Not always, and that points to systemic racism amongst police.
The alternative is that you think that all black suspects deserve to be treated more violently.
OK, so if I don't drop everything, go participate in criminal rioting, leaving my wife and two children behind, then I am a "coward"? Unless I'm willing to go travel 3000 miles and go loot and riot, I should shut my mouth?
That was a really strong and angry reaction. You must really not want to talk about this for some reason.
Don't know. I can't see from the video and photos how he would've suffocated. I think there's a pretty clear connection between the way he was handled and subdued and the end result. What that mechanism was, I don't know, but I'm sure we'll find out.
I’m still not sure how that proves systematic racism exists. The majority agrees that the act was racially charged and wrong.
So you just wanted to slander me on the Internet using my place of business, but you probably didn’t know anyone form there anyway?
Weird story....
The video is pretty clear. The reason he died was because a cop was kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes. End of story.
Not saying it wasn't racially charged but how do you know for sure it was? How do we know he hasn't done this maneuver in similar situations with suspects of all races? Suspects that didn't end up having a heart attack.
Are you a coroner? Why the rush to judgement on the cause of death?
If they are doing this routinely.... which I believe they are. We have a bigger problem. This is an improper technique which could cause the suspect harm. The knee might be fine before the cuffs are on. No reason afterwards.
I noticed all the cops are doing it.
So should we have black cops police predominantly black areas, to at least remove the racism component from the equation?
That was the first thing I noticed when watching the video - the officer seemed very comfortable on top of Floyd. It definitely looked as though he had done this many times previously with no issues. Resisting Suspects routinely complain that they can't breathe when subdued. This might explain why he didn't take his knee off of Floyd when Floyd yelled for minutes that he couldn't breathe.
Never had a heart attack but is it harder to breathe when you're having one? Perhaps the heart attack started when the scuffle began and that was the true source of his difficulty in breathing.
I didn't say it proved systemic racism. What I said was that your statement doesn't somehow disprove systemic racism.
While the majority probably agrees it was racially motivated, the majority of this country skews "liberal" or "Democratic", too. That doesn't mean systemic racism doesn't exist, because when - say - 45% of the country thinks one way, that can still be systemic. If it were an 80 or 90% majority, then yeah.
But you see in this thread alone that while a "majority" agrees it was racially motivated, there's still a large minority that does not. In such a situation, you can have systemic racism, especially in areas where people of that mindset are largely in power.
The bottom line is, we've made progress since the 1800s and 1960s, but there are still elements of this society aligned to oppress. And in some cases, we're simply dealing with the repercussions of two centuries of oppression.
E.g. in some areas of the south where educational opportunities weren't equal for a century, we're only one generation removed from active educational oppression of poor black people. The children of those people who were going to school in substandard conditions are just now having their own children... and that affect is generational. That is not something that is fixed like flipping a light switch.
Not necessarily. The windpipe is in the front. He had his knee on the back of his neck. One of his systems was going to fail with 200 lbs of pressure onnit for so long after he passed out.
