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***Election results thread***

Sometimes it takes some one who has seen what living in a hell hole like Russia to understand why democracy is so dear to those that love freedom. I am surprised he hasn't been poisoned. BTW where's your evidence that Kasparov is a Putin puppet other than something you just pulled out of your ass to act wise and all knowing.

Why do you think Putin wants Joe to win? I think he saw the polls like we all did and should not have believed them or he would have put more effort into getting Trump elected. Without Manafort's polling data he didn't realize how close he was to taking the Whitehouse the second time.
Lighten up. Obviously it was just a joke since I started by making fun of the idea of quoting a Russian chess player on democracy as if he would have some special knowledge on the topic - and must be a really smart guy because he is good at playing a board game.

Putin wants Joe to win because Trump has been a lot tougher than Vlad expected and he wants to get back to the the fun 'reset' days of OBiden. What do you bet Vlad and his pals still laugh about that over vodka from time to time?
 
I think it varies based on the person. I view it as a combination of all of the above. His actual policies to the extent they are formalized are by and large a quasi-populism. Populism is mainstream and can be a powerful argument for the GOP (See Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign). It also the core of the message that Bernie, AOC and others are selling on the other side.

It is all the ancillary stuff around it that makes it his own brand (e.g. blowing up alliances, isolationism, etc.). Not saying that it does not appeal to people. It clearly does. I was one of the people who thought his win in 2016 was more a vote against Hillary than a vote for him, but 2020 made clear it was not a fluke for the reasons you note above, which is why Cotton, Rubio and company are lining up to be his heir. The interesting thing will be whether they can have the same success. US history has a handful of people pushing extreme departures from the status quo that rise to prominence (e.g. Huey Long), but their movements often don't survive them, which suggests that their success is as much messenger as message.

As such, the question will be is it simply his style that appeals to voters or his policies. I think there is sufficient data to support both, but my guess is it is more the former because his policy positions are a bit incoherent and non-linear such that they are not easily distilled down to a few overarching principles that can serve as the basis for a long term realignment. To the extent they are the basis for a long term shift, I think it is going to be very interesting to see if the shifts you note above are sufficient to offset the suburban college educated voters realigning with the Dems. Not that I think it guided Donald's policies, but it may represent a path for the GOP avoiding the demographic cliff that is coming by pealing off certain groups that have historically voted Dem but voted for him.
Fair enough. I thought it was always a bit exaggerated on how extreme Trump's policies actually were. Imo a lot of people confused rhetoric with actually policy. A lot of Trump's policies came straight from the traditional Republican playbook. As a former Bush speechwriter said, if one viewed the last 4 years of Trump era with a mute button....the actual accomplishments were more significant than given credit for. Trump's rhetoric was over the top extreme for a politician, and he consistently stepped on his message. Put Reagans personality and leadership style.....with Trump's policies....and he would be significantly more popular.

Fwiw I don't think Rubio and Cotton are in the same lane if they both run in 2024. Cotton is far right, Rubio would run more in center right lane. Cotton is a good senator for his base in Arkansas, don't think he could win Republican nomination....and definitely couldn't win a general election. I think Rubio or a Desantis type have higher potential in that regard.
 
Hunter must be having a good laugh at their amateurism when it comes to crime.

More likely he meant where is the GOP in observing the counting in Philly, Vegas and so forth. That is a reasonable question, don't you agree?

I really admire your persistence. For the good of the country, I do hope that when this is all said and done, that one of these guys has more than a couple electoral votes to make the result more certain. Going to be hard for super lawyers like Rudy to move three states.
 
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Freakin bastard talking about protecting our great country as he throws out lies and unproven conspiracies and calls for legal votes to be thrown out.

You trumpers worry about socialism as this POS openly tries to destroy our democracy. Nothing different in this presser from some banana republic dictator. Unbelievable.
 
This is dangerous.

You don’t think foreign countries are licking there chops to start flooding the internet with plenty of “voter fraud” videos. Watch our country eat itself alive.

No one should be taking this lightly.
His rhetoric was dangerous before the election, this will get some of the cultists to respond. However, for those sane Republicans who didn't like Trump and vocalized it in the polls but just couldn't vote D when it mattered, for them, it's now becoming pathetic.
 
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This is dangerous.

You don’t think foreign countries are licking there chops to start flooding the internet with plenty of “voter fraud” videos. Watch our country eat itself alive.

No one should be taking this lightly.

Absolutely. It is depressing. If a few senators had a backbone, all this could have been avoided.
 
His rhetoric was dangerous before the election, this will get some of the cultists to respond. However, for those sane Republicans who didn't like Trump and vocalized it in the polls but just couldn't vote D when it mattered, for them, it's now becoming pathetic.

Russia and China will be more than happy to supply him with “evidence” to make his play to get electorates to change their votes.

His son is call for him to “wage war”. He knows he’s facing legal threats if he loses and he’s backed against a wall.

He’ll do anything to survive.
 
Alaska looks like it is still in play for both the Senate and President. Add the two GA senate runoffs and things could be very interesting in January. I assume the Rs will dominate turnout in a runoff unless mail in is allowed but will be interesting to watch. As a never Trump R, I prefer a R senate but I think we will see more fire works between now and Jan.
 
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